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Jonpim, perhaps it means that the next snow will be delivered in 28 weeks. Sad
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Follow this link and you'll get the most detailed forecast I've seen. Whether it's accurate or not, we'll find out as we're there from Easter Monday!

http://www.metcheck.com/snow/skiResort.asp?ResortID=26&Country=France&Resort=La+Plagne&PROMO=
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JeremyDL, hope its good for ya, but not so good its all gone by April 9th! wink
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laundryman, no: I think Mr Weather is having a real ball this year, and decided to tease Homo Sapiens to the limit.
Lots of us drive out to the Alps at Easter. We should take chains, but this year with all this warm weather and rain forecast a lot of people are not going to bother. By this time next week the snow will be pouring down and hundreds of poor Brits will be stranded.
Mr Weather will be pissing with laughter.
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Well, that will be nice Jonpim. For the last few days he's just been pissing.
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Not all wee wee...it was snowing lightly at mid-station Andermatt today and the snow's still in very good condition
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On piste that is...the off-piste looks rocky
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Skanky - just for your reference if you want to go back and check the relevant charts...

From the Serre Che trip I've just returned from, overnight Wednesday we had damp-ish snow (really sticky on the board - virtually had to lean back to get through!) down to approx 2,300m - around 5cm tops I'd say. Overnight Thurs gave us another couple of cm dry powder to around the same level - maybe 100m lower. The snow that fell overnight Saturday came a bit lower down and ended up at around 1900m - but that was the thin tail of it - most of the heavier stuff fell at 2000+

The only thing saving the resort from utter disaster is the huge amount of artificial snow they stacked up in the cold spell. Unfortunately any slopes not covered by the cannons are now brown. Mud & grass brown, not slush brown that is...
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snow-forecast now has the f/l no higher than 2100 today, then dropping all week thru to next Sat night when it drops to 1200m, here's hoping!! They have it up around 1900m during the day.
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gregh, I noticed the f/l prediction for the end of the week is very variable - it seems to change on almost an hourly basis - yesterday morning they were predicting rising temperatures towards the end of the week!
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yeh it does seem to be very up and down Sad
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Jonpim, it's a satellite picture of Europe, so it's more of a nowcast than a forecast, true, but for an area of it, it's definitely snow-related.

carled, thanks for that. I'll check it when I get a chance later today.
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Ian Hopkinson, gregh, im getting very confused!!! Puzzled

ah well, still getting excited about having a holiday in 11 days time...ive got crazy cabin fever, be nice to breath in some fresh (hopefully not too damp) mountain air (beats Leeds pollution anyway!!) Very Happy Very Happy

Thats my stance until something more concretely optimistic comes along regarding snow conditions Sad rolling eyes Puzzled Shocked Very Happy snowHead Puzzled
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Looking at the forecasts today..... snowHead snowHead snowHead

god i hope they are right! Very Happy
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tomski01, well they got it wrong today! As late as this morning forecasts indicated freeze levels at 1600m dropping to 1300m by this afternoon for the Tarentaise Valley. They changed it to 1500m this morning, 1500m this afternoon, an hour back.

But.... it's raining up to nearly 2000m Sad

They also had a cold snap arriving Friday/Saturday. Not any more though. Haven't checked the long range forecasts - I'm still hoping it's on its way, but delayed. Or has the system bringing in warm wet air from the SW reestablished its dominance?
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Latest from snow-forecast still has f/l bouncing around 2000m, rain low down, snow high up, looks like significant snow coming in after the weekend, but that is still too far away to be sure.

courcheval website has 1cm new wet snow at 1850 and +1c, with 3cm at 2700m and -5

cheers,

greg
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The models are all over the place at the moment. I wouldn't take any forecast beyond about two days with any confidence...and that's just for the UK. It's even more difficult to worki out what borderline conditions will bring for the mountains.
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aw shucks...back down to earth then Sad

although, as long as it stays ok above 2000m ill not be whinging...not given the way things have gone over last week or two Very Happy
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Doesn't mean they'll be wrong, though. wink
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does it look like the 20+ degree in resort temps are gone for the foreseeable future????
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The 'good weather' is forecast to return tomorrow and Friday, and it looks as if it will be pretty warm around the Tarentaise, in the sun. 0°C around 2300m.
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Looks like a (probable) return to southerlies over the weekend (well, from Thursday night), as a large HP builds over central Europe then moves eastwards. There's hints of another LP over the northern Med., but that would just add to the southerly flow.
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skanky, thats bad right? Crying or Very sad

man, this april snow malarky is stressful! Shocked
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tomski01, yes, but it's based on FAX charts only, and as (for example) ECMWF output is at odds with the FAX charts in places, it's only one version of events. HOwever, though ECMWF is not in full agreement, it doesn't offer much in the way of hope. I haven't looked at GFS yet.
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On behalf of all the readers of this thread, may I offer a vote of thanks to our very own Met Man skanky. You might not like all the forecasts but he has not given up scanning the charts and offering interpretations. Great effort, mate. snowHead snowHead
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looks like fresh snow on the roofs in Meribel....

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ooooooooooo....... snowHead

Val Thorens is looking snowy too:

http://www.belhorizon.com/live_panorama.html

Think I will go put my ski boots on in preparation for next week snowHead
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skanky, indeed you are a hero....just a shame you dont have more direct control over the weather eh....any chance of that happening for next season wink
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Here's where it's coming from:

http://www.landi.ch/scripts/meteo/radarbild/radar.gif
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skanky, you have all the cool links and fancy radar pictures, checking this thread is always fun! (i especially like that ensembles thingy with all the multi coloured lines, it always tells me what i want to see, even if it isnt always what actually happens!) Little Angel
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tomski01:

www.wetterzentral.de
www.westwinds.ch
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skanky, here's one for you. What will the weather be like in Chamonix? I want to ski the vallee blanche at the weekend, which day is likely to be the better day for visibility out of the sunday and the monday?

Any help would be gratefully received.
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looking at snow-forecast.com for Chamonix Sunday appears to be the day to go for, with snow forecast all day Monday...will be interesting to see what skanky thinks!
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Chamonix meteo agrees: sunny and mild on Sunday, with a 'disturbance' on Monday.
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HAve to agree with the forecasts (thankfully wink. GFS & UKMO have a LP in the northern Med. on Monday and GFS pushes this up into the Alps throughout the day, bringing cloud and precip. to that area. UKMO keeps it further south, but still influencing that region. ECMWF does not show this LP, though it does have a pressure "col" move through - which could bring cloud (esp. if there's any form of upper air depression or trough). All three models have a small ridge of HP over the area on Sunday. So I'd say Sunday is probably going to be the best day.

The GFS 12z will be out soon which may alter things, but as snow forecast and Chamonix Meteo have probably already seen it and are still going for the same thing, then it perhaps hasn't changed much. The models are starting to agree a bit more for the weekend (they probably were this morning, but I hadn't looked much) for Europe, even if they're still a bit over the place for the UK.
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skanky, laundryman, gregh, thanks guys, I shall book a guide for Sunday then.
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kuwait_ian wrote:
On behalf of all the readers of this thread, may I offer a vote of thanks to our very own Met Man skanky. You might not like all the forecasts but he has not given up scanning the charts and offering interpretations. Great effort, mate. snowHead snowHead


Thanks for that, though I've been a little lapse, and a little inaccurate (esp. of late).
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snowHead snowHead snowHead today! (La Plagne webcams looking pretty good!)

lets hope this weekends little 'warm' spell doesnt last too long....although SF and metcheck dont think it will, but i will always tend to trust meteo.fr, hope they are worng at the moment Puzzled Shocked

anyway, ill celebrate the snowHead snowHead for now anwyays Smile
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The warm weather looks set to be confined to the north and western Alps, with much of Italy and parts of Austria to stay a lot cooler. Precipitation should die off after today, but it looks like there's going to be bits around for the rest of the weekend.

Found this site this morning:

http://pages.unibas.ch/geo/mcr/3d/meteo/index.htm

If you go to the Meteograms you can find (for example) this (BSM):

http://pages.unibas.ch/geo/mcr/3d/meteo/meteogr/nmm22/BOPX.PNG

The whole site is great for the Alps, but remember that it's just one model.
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