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SMALLZOOKEEPER, Nice.... thats me told then.... total and utter bullshite hmmm.... more than a few have said how useful it has been.
oh now I see you have pulled the "i am Drunk, Stoned, Hungover, ____" card when you've been taken to task when making your snide little comments.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Nope, not drunk, stoned or hungover. Just a bit tired, i saw the thread title so took a look to see what terms and phrases might have been added. I imaged it might be a little like a Thesauarus or Dictionary, instead i found a a whole load of twoddle between people that clearly need to get out on the mountain instead of sitting about chatting about it like it's some kind of Science. Sorry mate, but maybe to are too close to see it. Look at the thread title, then take a step back and read this shite. It's UTTER CRAP. Sorry, that's how i see it. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, go to the opening post on the first page and you will find the Dictionary and Thesaurus. The 8 pages of "twoddle" is people chipping in ideas and debating the terminology. I only started this thread as many were moaning about use of jargon that they couldnt understand or appeared elitist. But of course you know this as you helped with a few of the boot related definitions.
i am too close as i took this little project on as a contribution to keeping a technical section going on snowheads. I come here to learn about how skiing works, to get a clearer understanding about skiing related things, and, to swap ideas on renting my apartment. It isnt a substitute for the pub for me, but to each their own...
we have had this barney before.. can't you just let me talk about my hobby and pick up some tips and understanding of skiing without butting in with such rancor? I dont storm into your threads and upset the apple cart
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, this thread is like a thesaurus or dictionary, save that the discussions between people (which happen, of course, in the compilation of any thesaurus or dictionary) leading up to an eventually agreed definition, are public. I think it's rather wonderful the way that skimottaret has actually managed to achieve agreement between such a bunch of argumentative ner...sorry, skiers...on so many of the definitions and, indeed, seems just about to do so on the latest ones to which you have taken such exception.
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Nothing personal towards skimottaret, he/she has a reason for being here, watching and reading people getting all worked up about 'Gate Banana wibble wobble fish cock knockers.' but these lot are such so dull and personally i hate it all, i don't want anyone else to hate it, nor am i attacking there right to speak, i'm simply refering to the fact that I think it's the worst pile of drivel, waste of time, space and energy, i personally have ever seen, read or looked at in my life. That said and Action Sports is my life and livelyhood and i still can't see anything interesting or slightly relevent to the real world that these persistant bores continune to 'Top Trump each other with. You don't see CEM and Myself and the other Plastic Chefs, dragging out their POV on such a benign and regular basis as is with 90% of the UTTER drivel spouted for the masses on BZK. It's a disgusting visual representation of why, mother nature is sending all her worst to seek these idiots out and take them away bu sea, air or fire. Darwin has turned, piroetted and layed down several Misty flips in his grave due to these IDIOTS. 
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Am i really working 24hrs a day to try and make the lives of these people cheaper and better. Makes me sick. Yes i am tired, tired of this Drivel.
As of today, i will post something in protest for every post enterd on BZK. It's shite.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, how about some valerian drops? (Very popular in France.)
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, nothing personal ehh...
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Get some lives you...........Retarded, OCD ridden bunch of Halfwits
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FYI I'm a He, take that personally, and dont like it, even though you tag a pussy little smiley face at the end of your insult. The reason I am hear is not to tug anyones strings or stroke my ego but to learn about skiing and exercise the brain cells while talking about it. I post here, i have taken courses and have even read a book or two to increase my skiing knowledge. I have decided that corporate life didnt suit me and I am looking to start ski teaching to earn a crust (a profession I gather you loathe) and have just started race coaching. A few of the other halfwits here like rjs, martinbell, fastman, offpisteskiing, grahamn etc. have lots of experience which i could learn from.
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skimottaret, Then why spend time justifing all this BS to me? And the pussy little smiley face intemated my sentiments, if you decide to take it otherwise, that's your problem, amonst finding any of this 'clap trap' interesting.
Go on ralley your troops, a pack of Hyenas is no strange sight to a Solitary Lion.
Nuff said. Be happy, search wisdom, if after all that you still ski like a 'Traquillized Giraffe', well then i told you so.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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skimottaret, BTW, i think the Glossary is perfect, very concise and well written. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Likewise, come alone. Please.
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You know it makes sense.
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SMALLSHITSTIRRER since Action Sports is your livelihood I would have thought that establishing the correctness or otherwise of the terms used to describe those sports was a sensible thing to do, so allowing sensible discussion of the topic. The fact that you think it's all shite says way more about you than it does about us. Whether you like it or not, these are all common terms used by racers and coaches, and it's sensible for those to be defined. Jargon is only confusing mumbo jumbo if it's kept as a secret language.
Time for to start taking the tablets again methinks. skimottartet, I think we'd better ignore him from now on.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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GrahamN, Not sure what it says about me, that's for the others to decide. I think this 'Glossary' is great and credit to "Skimostlyaveclatete" for his work.
You did write this though, not matter in association with what, it's ridiculous.
(and putting banana as a synonym for delay).
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Poster: A snowHead
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Stroking a small snail is tantamount to paving the garden with orange peel.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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There's nothing ridiculous about it at all - both terms are used interchangably for the same gate combination, and in the context in which we are talking are synonymous. You are equally likely to hear one as the other, hence both should be there.
Anything further about which you'd like to parade your ignorance?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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both terms are used interchangably for the same gate combination, and in the context in which we are talking are synonymous.
Awesome, keep them coming.
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Knitting with Cat's ears requires both Tennis skills and childproof feet.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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GrahamN, i have been trying to ignore him for almost a year now but the volume of his tantrum was particularly loud this time.
Gotta admit though "skis like a tranquilized giraffe" was a cracker...
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skimottaret, Ignore? Tantrum? HaHa. I am very tired, excuse any deep seated offence taken, but you lot really do go on, and on, and on, and on sometimes. You really need to read some of this stuff. I know alot of my stuff on here is utter shite, but is never ment to be serious in any way. You guys are like a Parish council sometimes. As i say the 'Glossary' is ace, great job, i'm going to Plagarise the hell out of it. But please.....................do any of you understand this Phrase...
"Freeriding"?
now apply that to your "Banana-split-webb-footed-gate-dance-on-a-trifle."
Sorry guys. 
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Brightens up my slow day here
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do any of you understand this Phrase...
"Freeriding"?
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no it hasnt been debated or defined anywhere to my satisfaction, how could i possibly know
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SZK, while I pretty much entirely agree with your position - it's kind of like criticising Epicski posters for being obsessive (though I guess they're generally skiing more). If it makes people happy, let them re-invent the wheel to their own designs...
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DaveC WTF!!!? - no wheel reinvention here, just clarification and explanation of commonly used terms. If you want everyone to remain in ignorance, fine, but what kind of teacher does that make you???
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I've been skiing 5 out of the last 9 days (and skied most if not all of those gate combinations BTW), and will be again tomorrow. And you?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Commonly used terms as first introduced to me by ex-Europa Cup skier and trainer at Les Deux Alpes, and subsequently by many other coaches. You really are such a hypocrite, as you've never been slow to come out and wilfully baffle people with your arcane boot stuff. Prat!
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You know it makes sense.
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DaveC WTF!!!? - no wheel reinvention here, just clarification and explanation of commonly used terms. If you want everyone to remain in ignorance, fine, but what kind of teacher does that make you???
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| (though I guess they're generally skiing more). |
I've been skiing 5 out of the last 9 days (and skied most if not all of those gate combinations BTW), and will be again tomorrow. And you? |
150 days last season, 100~ the season before. Probably 150 again this season. 0 days in gates!
Sorry, I just agree with the general opinion that this forum would quite easily fly an air balloon. "commonly used terms" is probably a bit of a stretch, unless you spend a massive amount of time on this forum talking about irrelevant crap - then I guess you might need a glossary 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Number of skiers that wear ski boots : Number of people that care about gate combinations.
Guess which is of vague interest?
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Poster: A snowHead
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skimottaret, the hairpin looks good now.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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DaveC, Awesome and very true, however let's be impartial for 1 second. The world of Action Sports is diverse and is an outlet for us all to live out our dreams whilst stuck in our otherwise hum-drum lives, all thes terms do need to be included in this 'Glossary' however as you point out there is a difference between commonly used 'Phrases' that we all come into contact with on a regular basis and real 'terms' that help us understand the industry. This kind of discussion to me, at least is 'Top-Trumps', Elitest and serves some kind of Psyhcological benifit to those who have issues representing themselves and being heard in their day to day lives. Keep this 'Glossary' going i say, but let's have a spot of humility when it comes to the fact that sometimes, we are just being plain stupid and therefore funny. After all we are all stupid and/or funny to someone at any given time. Me especially. Now i need to nip off, there's a train coming into platform 3 and i haven't noted it's engine number.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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FreeRiding - previously known as off-piste skiing. A term coined by marketers from within the ski industry in the 90's prompted by falling ski sales as disaffected youths switched to snow boarding. In a bid to stimulate sales of skis and ski magazines, skiing was rebranded as being "cool" again and the unsuspecting public was bombarded with images of world class athletes hurtling down first descents with the implied message that you too can ski like this and have fun hucking cliffs if you have reverse camber, fat boy double whatsit signature model skis with beefy touring bindings.
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FastMan, Thank you, and now that normal service has resumed on this channel...
Carrots - Markers used to set out training courses for ski racing. Carrots are screwed into the snow and have soft tops that if skied over will not cause a fall.
Stubbies - Short poles used to set out training courses for ski racing. Being shorter than full size poles stubbies help the ski racing athlete to get used to skiing closed race courses without having to block poles out of the way.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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DaveC, i take it you are canadian qualified, wont you need a CSCF L1 at some point in your training? 0 days in gate may change to at least a couple and knowing what a hairpin is might be a good thing for you
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skimottaret, Glossary is great. It's really useful to many. 
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Spyderman, And constructing it over the last year has been a welcome break from my bird watching and train spotting
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skimottaret, I have a job for you writing honest marketing demographic reports.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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And skiing is/was and always will be, very cool, out side of Banana/Carrott flavoured wrist shuffling.
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