 Poster: A snowHead
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| poppyhill wrote: |
| ... and goodnight. |
One can hope.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| buchanan101 wrote: |
| I guess Austria has been luckier, but also they seem to have invested more in snow making than other countries |
Agree with you. They have this year for the first time in maybe 5 years but also its not just the investment, its the experience they have gained in how to make the best of some poor natural winters.
A lot of gnashing of teeth on here about conditions as opposed to weather, maybe the snow in France isn't that great or something?
Thanks Noza for that brief weather update, glad to see that Föhn decreasing. Looks like its gonna be very pleasant.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Dave of the Marmottes, @zzz, you know I agree with you chaps but for most of our clients, even in Cham (!) well groomed pistes and blue skies are what's wanted.
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| poppyhill wrote: |
So the more you post the better your opinion ...... Empty vessels and noise etc.
If the wind blows a bit of old snow across some other old snow, then it's not really a foot of fresh is it?
On normal winters past (5 years plus ago) most people with vested interest would still describe snow fall fairly accurately. But now winter in most low to middle French resorts is defined by who has the most snow cannons and the largest P.R team. Of course up high it's still 30cm of fresh every single day, until your paying guests arrive. Call your therapist, drink more, but please don't become even angrier little boys. Thank you and goodnight. |
Ouch, but +1 from me. Shame we can't have "likes" on this forum
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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hahahaha.....LOL...poppyhill.
"Empty vessels and noise etc."
that's a fairly accurate description of your 10 posts so far.........
if you had the faintest clue about how the micro climate around the French/Italian border that Le Fornet sits bang on perhaps you d understand.
Read through some of Chocsaways 3494 posts........I think you ll find they are deadly accurate from someone in town almost all season........both positive and negative around snow, weather and even flying to and from.
perhaps you need to take some of your own advice - "Call your therapist, drink more"
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Whilst I do not agree with the tone of poppyhills posts, and admire chocsaway's restraint in his response, there is some truth what she says. This shouldn't be directed at the SH's accurately reporting conditions though!!
Lately my FB feed has been full of exaggerated reports of how good the snow is in the French alps, pictures reposted from the last fall 3 weeks ago to try and suggest fresh snow has fallen etc etc etc.You know who you are Alpine Elements!!! 
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Dashed......
agreed mine has been the same...............but there is a marked difference between the chalet operators who are trying to fill empty weeks/beds................and the likes of posts by chocs and steve angus who are at the coal face every day.
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| stefoy4me wrote: |
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agreed mine has been the same...............but there is a marked difference between the chalet operators who are trying to fill empty weeks/beds................and the likes of posts by chocs and steve angus who are at the coal face every day. |
and there you have it! Hence why snowheads reports from "the ground" are so valuable!
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| kitenski wrote: |
| and there you have it! Hence why snowheads reports from "the ground" are so valuable! |
Exactly. Why is it that only people with a handful of posts criticise the high post counts of people who have been active on the forum for years?
High post counts are useful because you can form a judgement about the value and veracity of a person's contribution over a long period of time. There are a small number of snowHeads with a high post count who I'm happy to ignore or place little value on their contributions, so it's not a case of the more you post the better your opinion. More like the more you post the more opportunity there is for other people to judge the value, or not, of what you contribute.
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@rob@rar, like WhiteGold 
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Of course up high it's still 30cm of fresh every single day, until your paying guests arrive
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@poppyhill, please can you back this up with evidence?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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There are too many egos on here. I have been following this thread as a weather and meteorological quide for years. It has always been very interesting. Those that are going to state inaccurately what they see should think twice before getting excited (or recycling second hand info) and those who are pompous and enjoy slagging off fellow SH's should wind their neck in. Too many column inches employed in discussing 30 cm's of this or that instead of predicting what "Huey" is going to drape the mountains with.
For those like Noza who provide the latter. Keep it coming.
For the rest, grow up a bit please. Generally speaking I am assuming this is a page that is contributed to by adults. It only does what it says on the box if we keep to weather. 
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weathercam
LOL
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You know it makes sense.
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Nice to see some people who don't financially gain from the French ski industry having a supporting opinion. My understanding was that this part of the forum was to allow normal members of the public to accurately describe the snow conditions as they found them. In my case that was less than 24 hours from slope to post. So as soon as I call out the truth, just look at all the chimps shaking the bars.
I guess it's very touchy for these guys who are knee deep in debt rather the powder, but that's a different conversation from snow conditions. Get used to it though boys, it's not looking good for you (In my totally humble opinion).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@poppyhill, the best you could possibly do would be to describe the conditions that you found on a particular day and in a particular place. That gives you no right sweepingly to question the veracity of other posters from other places. And your attitude is the very opposite of humble.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@poppyhill, whether I agree with you or not, the purpose of this thread is to comment on "16/17 Weather Outlook".
Nothing wrong with a few comments/pictures on current conditions, but the last few/many comments are superfluous and are obstructing worthwhile weather discussion.
There is room for this discussion in the "Apres Zone" or even resort specific pages.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Weather thread, folks!
Feb 2-4 looks like a chance for good snow for the Western and Southern Alps still. A tad warm for most people's liking.
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Still looking very warm at resort level in St Martin. Hopefully the pistes dont suffer over the next week when im there (from 29th Jan).
Had everything crossed for snow over the weekend! 
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So the foehn has truly arrived in the PDS today. Strong southerly winds at altitude and the temperature outside my house has risen above zero for the first time in about three weeks. Five degrees at present. TBH it's a bit of a relief because it has been truly baltic and with no off piste, the skiing rather dull.
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Massive jump in valley temperatures this morning, a couple of days ago we had minus 6 degrees, and this morning by 7am it was plus 6 degrees. On the mountain there are lots of lifts closed due to very strong winds (always linked to the change in the weather here), however it is snowing. The coming weekend does not look too bad however the longer term forecast is looking like the freezing level is heading skywards.
Most central Pyrenees resorts have a solid 90cm base with more on the upper slopes which bodes well for the holidays that kick off soon.
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I'm guessing there wouldn't be handbags on this thread if there was plenty of snow in France, such bickering over 1ft of snow. Eastern Austrian Alps (Salzburger region) has had one of the best Januarys in 5 years, more of the same for Feb please 
How we looking on the new moon around the 8th?? Any charts showing that far out?
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I'm guessing there wouldn't be handbags on this thread if there was plenty of snow in France
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Out here (L.A.) now and below 1800m ish decidedly iffy - better on runs with snowmaking obviously - but then tends to funnel the idiots. Sorry not weather. Appreciate the title of this thread - Nozza et al please don't lose faith.
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Does anyone have an update on what is expected for Austria - Salzburgerland? Forecasts have seemed to indicate milder temps, but while it has crept up to about freezing point at about 1300m it has been colder above, and much colder below, -8c at 11am at valley level today, and -6c by 4pm. To be honest we could either do with fresh snow, or milder temps to soften the very firm pistes.
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Having skied all over the United States, Canada and the Alps, one of the most interesting thing I have found in the Alps is just how difficult it is to forecast snow accurately across an entire resort. They are simply so big and so high, that the snowfall varies significantly from ridgeline to ridgeline. With that said, I can absolutely recall times in the Alps where we have suddenly happened upon fresh snow from the night before and you can generally discern fresh snow from windblown. However, I don't doubt for a second that resorts exaggerate their snow totals for obvious reasons. They are competing hard for our dollars and their margins are razor thin.
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Any news on the high pressure moving away from the alps??
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| stefoy4me wrote: |
I don t think chocksaway is over reacting......he has been posting here for years, daily about the goings on in Val & Tignes................and then has some 9 post wonder pop up and say he is talking shite............I d say his reply was quite constrained!!!!! |
That's ok you're free to think that 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@telford_mike,
Don't worry it will change. its been showing that out 7-10 days for a while now and it always goes away within 5-7 days except for the storm two weeks ago.
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You know it makes sense.
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Grasping at straws here- we go to Flaine in 2 weeks- the Chamonix ensembles look more solidly wet for the week after next than any period at the same range since the start of the month. Fingers crossed, we've never had a terrible week's skiing yet.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Weathercam wrote: |
Looks like resorts close to the Mediterranean (Limone Piemonte) will score again this weekend and currently again the following weekend with a possible Retour D'Est on the cards with resorts in the Queyras getting it, only trouble is it's falling over the weekend and that doesn't make a road trip so attractive down to Limone, but Queyras is a lot closer 
Though the question is how far / long would you drive to get to the fresh?
I did a report with some great pics of our two day road trip to Limone here. |
Taking inspiration from your trip last week we've just driven the motorhome down from the Maurienne to Prato Nevoso this afternoon, about 240km. At 5pm the village pistes were quite soft which makes a pleasant change. Temperatures just below zero and it has now (midnight) been snowing for 4 hours, perhaps 8cm so far. Will give an 8am update.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Piedmont update: 15-18cm in the carpark and snowing moderately. The firm small pellet stuff.
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Snowfall starting to creep into the more reliable time frame.
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| nozawaonsen wrote: |
Snowfall starting to creep into the more reliable time frame.
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Snow/rain suddenly appeared in the forecast for Tuesday in the 18Z and 00Z GFS.
Thankfully the Föhn forecast for the last 2-3 days hasn't materialised yet. Still lovely crunchy snow around town.
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@snowheads68, still freezing!
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@BoardieK, good move, see it's meant to snow all day in Limone - and just looking at Limone webcam snow ploughs are out in the piazza!
See that predicted amounts for backend of next week there and the Queyras have been reduced as looks like the weather system is further North now with La Grave, Les Deux Alpes currently doing well whilst here (Serre Che) looks like we're stuck in the middle 
Evidently there was around 5cm of fresh up top of the hill yesterday - temps in the valley went up to +4.5 and light very flat like it is today.
I've passed on going out with the CAF and will take the dogs up a valley (long flat walk) and then there are numerous route options, with staying in the trees best.
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| whilst here (Serre Che) looks like we're stuck in the middle. |
Let's hope the roulette ball bobbles around and plunks into Serre Che. We're out in 2 weeks for our 3rd time and although the pistes look fine I'm sure we'd all appreciate a top up! Especially on the valley runs.
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Did I detect some fresh on the Monetier web cams this morning?
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EPS Snowfall for next 10 days.
About 20-40cm for the Western Alps and Switzerland. 5-10cm elsewhere. Good falls in Southern Norway if you live up there.
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