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How much wind is needed to close Scottish lifts? The day I twisted my knee all the lifts were closed and it was not blowing more than a 6, I'm sure, but that was a long time ago and maybe the lifts are made of sterner stuff these days.
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pam w, there aren't that many new lifts... Wink
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pam w, depends which way the wind is blowing, if blowing up or down the lift line it's less likely to damage the lift than if it's blowing across but of course there's a limit to how windy it can get when blowing down or up the lift line for people to safely use the lift. At Cairngorm the funicular can run in very windy conditions and there are times when that's the only lift running, not sure about say the gondola at Nevis. Areas like The Lecht are less affected by wind too, for example there were around 3 days at half-term when the lifts were all off at Cairngorm but The Lecht happily ran their lifts because there was very little wind or the wind was only gusting heavily at the top.

As scotia suggests there aren't many 'new' lifts so most of them will be the same ones you remember although I believe some have new engines and gearboxes that mean they can run more safely in windier conditions (the speed a lift runs at can affect it's operating capacity in windy conditions).
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Continuing from the end of next week... Cooler temperatures...
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nozawaonsen, when you say Italy, North or West (sorry, jetting off to Montgenevre on the 19th, just over the border from Claviere) Charts look ok, although freezing level looks abit iffy?
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Looks like some serious rain forecast for french resorts mid week - a lot depends on the snowline
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so what will rain do to surface? I'm off to prapoutel next saturday and notice next wed/thu a few mm of wet stuff. cheers
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Snow pushing into Milky Way and Southern French Alps from this afternoon into the evening and up towards Monterosa. Here it is how it could look at 10pm this evening.



This looks like it will be pretty substantial on the Italian side by tomorrow. Serre Chevalier and Puy St Vincent could also do well and it may reach up to Val D'Isere. The snow line will however be higher on the French side, possibly around 1600m+ at times compared to around 1000m+ in Italy.

What happens on Wednesday and Thursday looks more complex. It looks like quite heavy snow across much of the Alps, but the snow line could be around 1800m+ (though cooling as the snow comes through). Still some days away and the detail still needs to firm up.

From the end of next week it continues to look like temperatures will cool down to seasonal or below seasonal average and continuing unsettled. So a pretty snowy week in the Alps at altitude and cooler weather looking possible from the end of the week.

Alpe D'Huez and Les Deux Alpes



Sestriere



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GFS is off the CHAIN!!!! Lets hope it cools down enough!!! snowHead snowHead snowHead
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Crispyapplepie wrote:

Im hoping the weather will still change and with it bring some snow however i cant say im too optimistic now.


Why ? There is nearly two months skiing left in the three valleys ?


Yes I know there is but meribel web cam is showing slush and serious amounts of grass... So unless any new snow comes soon I can't see what's there lasting much longer
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nozawaonsen,
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it may reach up to Val D'Isere.

Les Menuires should be good for some snow tonight then?
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Damien, maybe a little.

It looks like the Italian side and the Southern French Alps will get the most.

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I can confirm that it is snowing in Serre Chevalier at 1500m.
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Crispyapplepie wrote:
Yes I know there is but meribel web cam is showing slush and serious amounts of grass... So unless any new snow comes soon I can't see what's there lasting much longer

You mean at 1400/1450?

Look nobodys pretending that it's the greatest season in the Alps but just because some of the lower slopes are showing melt and grass doesn't mean it's all like that, some lifts go to around 3000 metres do they not? I can guarantee there's gonna be a lot less grass and a lot more white stuff at that altitude so what's the problem? If you're beginners then frankly you'll be fine on slushier lower slopes so nothing to worry about.

No offence but it'd be great if we could get away from the "this beach doesn't look like it does in the brochures" holidaymaker mentality sometimes- these are mountains and weather varies and seasons vary - there's snow and there will be plenty high up so don't worry and all it'll take will be one good dump and it'll all look like brochureland again.

Sorry, probably a little harsh but just view it as 'feisty' banter Toofy Grin Razz Wink
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Hells Bells, snowHead No precipitation here, and it's a couple of degrees above zero at 1500m, so probably just as well. Looks like you might get some good stuff in the near future.
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pam w, it looks like it is set for the night at the moment. About to wander up to village to see if the others have arrived. I ordered fresh snow from the weather gods and it looks like it has arrived. snowHead
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pam w, it looks like it is set for the night at the moment. About to wander up to village to see if the others have arrived. I ordered fresh snow from the weather gods and it looks like it has arrived. snowHead We have a habit of arriving on the day of a fresh fall. It even happened in July once Shocked
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GFS 12z operational takes a slightly different route at the end of next week, keeping it milder for longer... Though it is something of an outlier. Mean takes it cool and control takes it cold.

Snow coming through for the middle of next week across much of Alps, Italy in particular. Snow line looks around 1800m+.

Snow now in Southern French Alps and particularly North West Italy. And more tomorrow

In Scotland snowing now. More tomorrow. More Monday. More Tuesday, though by Tuesday temperature will be up a bit and snow line may be around 1000 to 1200m.
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Snow line looks around 1800m+

Hmm.
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No snow in Meribel yet ... but it does not look very beech like either Toofy Grin
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it does not look very beech like

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Nath, more sprucey, I'd say wink
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nozawaonsen wrote:
In Scotland snowing now. More tomorrow. More Monday. More Tuesday, though by Tuesday temperature will be up a bit and snow line may be around 1000 to 1200m.

Yup, heavy snow still falling today, so much so that at Cairngorm reports say every run was freshies because previous tracks were filling in so fast but vis low as a result of all the snow (reminds me of Mammoth California a couple of seasons back- awesome freshies Toofy Grin ). Loads in the west too and apparently still "puking down" in Fort William so probably even heavier up in the mountains so boding very well for Nevis and Glencoe tomorrow, the latter of which was today reportedly covered in big accumulations of fresh so much so that the run back to the low level car park which is not usually available for skiing was fully complete and covered well.

As you say nozawaonsen it's looking like a few days yet of snow and much of it potentially very heavy so goodness knows how much more will accumulate by the time this storm blows itself out - looks like there's going to be some amazing conditions once the skies clear though and this'll hopefully help to prolong the Scottish season for a while yet (which seems to be a not uncommon pattern these days) - anyone for another misummers day ski lol!

Anyway, more reports and some photos on the Scottish snow thread and of course anyone here is welcome to join all the other Snowheads for a ski up there on the weekend of the 25th/26th and 27th ... the more the merrier, the only question is will it be lovely Scottish spring snow or powder lol! snowHead Wink
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2.5C at 21.00 as we came over the Pas de Morgins c.1450m
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Continuing to look cooler from the end of the coming week across all the models.

In the meantime mild temperatures will continue, low pressure moving into the Mediterranean will bring snow at altitude in the Alps from Wednesday and Thursday though rain lower down. The main focus seems to have been shifting slightly east over the last few runs.

The 06z operational brings in a further weaker band on Saturday, by which time temperatures would be a lot cooler. In fact 06z takes a really rather cool approach and in far FI brings more cold from the north.
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Heavy duty foehn winds doing a fair bit of damage to the already rather tenuous snow cover in much of the French alps. Chamonix meteo forecasts foehn winds continuing for first half the week. Sad
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pam w, yup...

"The risk of foehn winds making an appearance at the weekend. " [Monday 07 March].

According to the Arlberg weather forecast:

"...the southerly foehn wind will lose strength at the beginning of next [this] week"

The latest operational runs seems to have been downgrading the potential for snow/rain midweek in the French Alps. Although the mean and control runs are more bullish.
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Still snowing in Serre Chevalier,although it stopped for a wee while early this morning. It has continued for much of the day, and is now snowing quite hard again in the village. No Foehn here.
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Hells Bells, sounds good. Your're profiting from your closeness to Italy I guess! South is the place to be at the moment. Enjoy. snowHead
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pam w, yes, I think we are. We usually benefit from different weather systems to the rest of the French Alps, even sometimes Deux Alpes which is just a short distance away across the Lauteret .
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Cooling trend from end of week still in place. How long it stays in place up for question...

That said GFS keeps the mean south of seasonal average (though it's a milder operational than 06z) for most of the run and out in FI is continuing a weak trend to take things colder still.

Snowfall Wednesday and Thursday looks strong for Italy and western parts of Austria, eastern Switzerland. Freezing line looks to be around 1800m+ in the west, perhaps 1600m+ in the east.
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It was REALLY snowing this morning at Viola in Piedmont...1000m... about 5-6 inches overnight
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adam.b, Yep, it's been a good winter for Italy and it looks like there is more to come, I was puzzled on another thread to see someone suggesting they'd heard it had been a "poor season in the Alps," which doesn't really seem to me to have been the case nor what has been reported.

Really rather poor in Northern French Alps and much of Switzerland, below average, though great at times, in Austria, definitely above average, if not outstanding in Italy (probably the same in Scotland ie not on a par with last year over the season even with a lot of snow in last few days) probably same in Southern French Alps.
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nozawaonsen, not many brits - relatively - go to Italy, thus the perception of a poor year as the French honey-pot resorts have been very poor - take a look at the 123_456 pictures on the Les Manures thread if in doubt
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Heading to VT on Saturday, should I be concerned? Sad

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well it's been a poor season in much of France (disastrous in the Jura) and, I think, in much of Switzerland and the more recent reports from Austria make depressing reading too. The report from Cathy, on the Austrian snow report thread, suggests conditions in the Ski Welt are currently a lot worse than they are here. The most recent report from Kitzbuhel also described the kind of terminal spring conditions which ought not to be happening well before the middle of March. There may yet be a few great weeks of snow - I'd be very surprised if we didn't get some reasonable dumps March/April, and it's too early for a verdict on the season. But it's certainly the worst, in 9 consecutive years, that I've known in these parts.

It's snowing here now, but not in a way which looks like it means it. Just a few flocons.
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We liked it so much, we bought a place out there!!

As new skiers we love Viola St Gree, Frabosa Soprana and the surrounding areas. they are cheap, fun and friendly...WITH snow!!
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It's snowing here now, but not in a way which looks like it means it. Just a few flocons.


Aye, "quelques flocons" here too. Tried to mean it for an hour or two, but never really got there.
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