With the introduction of the reps into Austria we have rejoined, with the reps they seems to have found their way, when things changed back in 2019/20 our January 2020 trip to Whistler was interesting as one rep did nothing and the other wasn't totally sure what he could do, the last two season in Saalbach have been good with a variety of reps, they do seem to have an activity plan , they don't necessarily lead all the time there might be someone in the group who has more local knowledge, Zell has a very active leader.
The website has some way to go but is an improvement on the previous management's (expensive) upgrade, the newish leadership seems to have the "club" going in a better direction.
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I had a look at the website yesterday; first time for a couple of years, I think. I didn't feel inspired to rejoin, but the site seemed OK.
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Looks okish, just to note they have a third the number of subscribers compared to my personal Youtube account which has a few cat videos on it. Social meejah is clearly still an area for further development. Maybe more cat videos?
Looks okish, just to note they have a third the number of subscribers compared to my personal Youtube account which has a few cat videos on it. Social meejah is clearly still an area for further development. Maybe more cat videos?
Well there's videos of cool cats snowboarding, but I don't know if that's quite the SCGB's thing....
In addition, Tony Harris will also be taking a step back from Council whilst remaining co-opted on the IT and Finance groups. Tony has done an outstanding job supporting the Advisory Groups and in sorting out the Club’s trademarks.
On the plus side, this sounds like reality was (bearing in mind this is 8 months old now) starting to sink in:
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If the Club is to remain one where member benefits are wide-ranging across discounts, a magazine, a Reps programme in resort and specialist insurance cover, to name a few, then it is imperative that we maintain or grow our membership and carefully put in the investment necessary to achieve this. Without the sort of scale we still have, attracting suppliers and partners for our benefits and affording those we fund ourselves will become difficult. Thus, it is membership growth we have started to focus most upon.
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... perhaps the subset of skiers we are looking to attract might only be 200,000 strong. The challenge we have is that very few of those 200,000 know what the Club can do for them, so we have to start finding ways to tell them. With that in mind, creating news to allow potential members to re-appraise the Club is very important, hence the re-expansion of Rep resorts, the set-up of a marketing presence in the Hemel Hempstead Snow Centre and at the Channel Tunnel and an increased presence in on-line and digital marketing outside of the existing membership.
i think there maybe a need for a representative body (similar to the British mountaineering council) to represent the 95% plus of UK skiers who do not race or compete, but might benefit from an international lobby on our behalf.
I don’t think that is the SCGB at the moment.
The BMC seems to have gotten themselves into a fankle, largely through expanding their remit to include competitive climbing:
There's talk of plugging the gap through selling their offices, which sounds eerily familiar...
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Reads like an operational and accounting basket case.
After all it is free
After all it is free
@ousekjarr, tying in with what Achilles says the website doesn't really tell me what the benefits of the scgb are, just that they want my money
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If the Club is to remain one where member benefits are wide-ranging across discounts, a magazine, a Reps programme in resort and specialist insurance cover, to name a few, then it is imperative that we maintain or grow our membership and carefully put in the investment necessary to achieve this. Without the sort of scale we still have, attracting suppliers and partners for our benefits and affording those we fund ourselves will become difficult. Thus, it is membership growth we have started to focus most upon.
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... perhaps the subset of skiers we are looking to attract might only be 200,000 strong. The challenge we have is that very few of those 200,000 know what the Club can do for them, so we have to start finding ways to tell them. With that in mind, creating news to allow potential members to re-appraise the Club is very important, hence the re-expansion of Rep resorts, the set-up of a marketing presence in the Hemel Hempstead Snow Centre and at the Channel Tunnel and an increased presence in on-line and digital marketing outside of the existing membership.
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Does the wide-ranging benefits drive the membership or vice versa. Bit of a chicken and egg.
They name 4 benefits there that are all very different. I wonder how many would get the benefit from even 2 of those. That said I guess one could be enough - if big or important enough.
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Insurance - doesn't need to be a member only thing could surely stand on its own feet commercially.
Discounts - anyone with a bit of effort can usually find similar.
Magazine - it's the 21st century
Which leaves Reps as the make or break.
They probably wisely don't mention Freshtracks which seems a poor benefit and a waste of rep resources if their presence isn't funded out of Freshtracks revenues alone.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, discounts, it depends. If they have some really good tie ups with holiday companies, big ticket items, some exclusives...
Insurance, as we know is a minefield - and you would have thought SCGB could take the time/trouble to resell a product that doesn't cause all the questions we get on here every year. With membership a pre-requisite for the pleasure of doing that groundwork.
Magazine - sure, hard to see value in that but they could do other stuff - digitally that could be nice.
A lot of this stuff seems to be a question though of whether this is a commercial thing or a genuine club.
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As a current, but soon to be ex, member the benefits I got were from the Reps, the discounted off-piste guiding and the friends I made skiing with SCGB groups in resort. Once most of that went away there was no real value for me any longer. Insurance, magazine, discounts and holidays are not unique selling points; there are so many other competitors in the market for those things. A members club needs to provide some key, and unique, benefits of being a member so, once that ceases to be the case, it’s no longer a members club but just another commercial entity.
The sale of the clubhouse, the trashing of the historic record and the termination of repping are all synonymous with ceasing to be a members club as far as I’m concerned. The key focus should have been on recruiting the younger generation into the club but, instead, it’s moved to an older demographic. There are no ‘value’ provisions for the younger generation that could, and should, have been slightly subsidised by the club to bring them in and create a new dynamic.
And, yes, I know the issues about the repping service and the dubious legality; but, think of this, if they’d simply teamed up in each resort with a ski school and had the reps get their BASI I qualification then that would have been resolved to everyone’s benefit. They tried to fight the system instead of working with it to come up with a solution. Latterly, the discounted off-piste guiding that they provided was good BUT, again, very much for the older demographic not the younger.
All a bit of a shame given the club’s longevity but I think it’s past the point of no return unless there is major surgery; and that would be very hard indeed and would likely be resisted by the administration of the club who would not benefit from it. This is pretty classic; once a ‘club’ goes from being a club run by and for its members and starts employing ‘professionals’ to run it then it tends to migrate to being a commercial entity with an increasing staff and a never-ending search for ‘growth’ … as in commercial growth. Look at the RAC, AA, IAM, BRDC etc etc … all ‘members’ clubs that, now, are just businesses with customers (perhaps BRDC has a residual members aspect but it’s slight).
For me, the key to building a sustainable ‘club’ is that, as a club, new/young members are encouraged/recruited/trained/entertained (and subsidised) so that they become the next generation later and do the same again for another new cohort. I play a number of sports for and with clubs; they are all member clubs and they all subsidise new/young members. I received that benefit when young and am now happy to pay to subsidise others as it keeps the club dynamic and fresh.
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Blackblade wrote:
As a current, but soon to be ex, member the benefits I got were from the Reps, the discounted off-piste guiding and the friends I made skiing with SCGB groups in resort. Once most of that went away there was no real value for me any longer. Insurance, magazine, discounts and holidays are not unique selling points; there are so many other competitors in the market for those things. A members club needs to provide some key, and unique, benefits of being a member so, once that ceases to be the case, it’s no longer a members club but just another commercial entity.
The sale of the clubhouse, the trashing of the historic record and the termination of repping are all synonymous with ceasing to be a members club as far as I’m concerned. The key focus should have been on recruiting the younger generation into the club but, instead, it’s moved to an older demographic. There are no ‘value’ provisions for the younger generation that could, and should, have been slightly subsidised by the club to bring them in and create a new dynamic.
And, yes, I know the issues about the repping service and the dubious legality; but, think of this, if they’d simply teamed up in each resort with a ski school and had the reps get their BASI I qualification then that would have been resolved to everyone’s benefit. They tried to fight the system instead of working with it to come up with a solution. Latterly, the discounted off-piste guiding that they provided was good BUT, again, very much for the older demographic not the younger.
All a bit of a shame given the club’s longevity but I think it’s past the point of no return unless there is major surgery; and that would be very hard indeed and would likely be resisted by the administration of the club who would not benefit from it. This is pretty classic; once a ‘club’ goes from being a club run by and for its members and starts employing ‘professionals’ to run it then it tends to migrate to being a commercial entity with an increasing staff and a never-ending search for ‘growth’ … as in commercial growth. Look at the RAC, AA, IAM, BRDC etc etc … all ‘members’ clubs that, now, are just businesses with customers (perhaps BRDC has a residual members aspect but it’s slight).
For me, the key to building a sustainable ‘club’ is that, as a club, new/young members are encouraged/recruited/trained/entertained (and subsidised) so that they become the next generation later and do the same again for another new cohort. I play a number of sports for and with clubs; they are all member clubs and they all subsidise new/young members. I received that benefit when young and am now happy to pay to subsidise others as it keeps the club dynamic and fresh.
I agree with everything you've said.
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
@Blackblade, “ if they’d simply teamed up in each resort with a ski school and had the reps get their BASI I qualification then that would have been resolved to everyone’s benefit. ”
I don’t think that would have been the case. BASI 1 not recognised by EU I don’t think, among other issues surrounding.
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under a new name wrote:
@Blackblade, “ if they’d simply teamed up in each resort with a ski school and had the reps get their BASI I qualification then that would have been resolved to everyone’s benefit. ”
I don’t think that would have been the case. BASI 1 not recognised by EU I don’t think, among other issues surrounding.
I'm not sure how this would help either?
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Blackblade wrote:
And, yes, I know the issues about the repping service and the dubious legality; but, think of this, if they’d simply teamed up in each resort with a ski school and had the reps get their BASI I qualification then that would have been resolved to everyone’s benefit.
No it would not, for a number of reasons:
BASI level 1 is for indoor/artificial slopes in the UK only...
Actually I'm not going to list all the other reasons, life's too short, but no way would any ski school anywhere have thought this was a good idea, unless lots of money was involved.
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Perhaps a reference to old style Grade 1, ie the top level qualification BASI offered? Begs the question why anyone would want to go to the considerable effort to achieve the highest level qualification in order to spend their time as a SCGB volunteer…
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IIRC SCGB tried some of what @Blackblade, is suggesting - didn't they team up with Evo2 for "instructor led guiding" for a fee? By then I think I'd left, so I've no idea if it really happened/how it worked in practice.
The main thing I used to get from the club when I joined it long ago was the guiding off piste, both with the resort rep and (mainly) on SCGB holidays. This worked very well and safely for about a century till two people got killed while being led and simultaneously locals got more protective about jobs.
Latterly the benefit for me has been the off-piste Freshtracks holidays and the insurance. The chief benefit of the holidays was that they were graded for (mostly known) skier standard. The benefit of the insurance was the cover of off-piste skiing without a guide (which is rare).
Now 3 of my ski weeks are with a group of friends hiring a favourite guide (December to February)and my one remaining SCGB Freshtracks holiday has, over the last two seasons, been replaced with the Off Piste Bash in March, which has a more relaxed vibe and more consistently good standard of skiing (fewer good skiers ski with the Ski Club than when I started and of course they are spread over many holidays). However the bash is always in the same place, which is a pity.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@snowdave, Yes, Instructor Led Guiding worked very well in a lot of resorts with EVO 2 and independent instructors. The provider then changed to New Gen and was equally as good. It has just been rebranded as Experiences with New Gen (or something like that). I didn’t have chance to try that this year. The demographic ILG attracted was across the Board.
The demographics of the SCGB are pretty much the same as Snowheads, so the issue exists for both.
@Layne, You might want to look at the SCGB insurance pages, it does offer a lot solutions to the problems you allude to. I have recently recommended it to someone on here for a long trip to the US, the SCGB product was the best for him.
The SCGB is far from perfect, but is improving and I’m more than happy to be a member whilst it suits, I realise that doesn’t suit the entrenched views of a few Snowhead members.
I don't really understand where the rep model is at. I guess I'd really want to put someone on the spot if I was wanting to join the club. It's seemed obvious to me for years that if you stop providing all the benefits like accommodation and lift passes etc to reps they become a) less of an employee, which reduces the legal jeopardy and b) that costs the club less. A true club would see experienced members more than happy to spend time with other members without the bribe of a free holiday.
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snowdave wrote:
IIRC SCGB tried some of what @Blackblade, is suggesting - didn't they team up with Evo2 for "instructor led guiding" for a fee? By then I think I'd left, so I've no idea if it really happened/how it worked in practice.
Yeah, they started that something like ten years (or more) ago in France, while still offering the leading service in other countries. Seemed to work quite well and was popular with some members. Never did it myself, by that time my wife and I were only doing holiday leading, not resort repping, so it seemed like a reasonable compromise. In retrospect it was the thin end of the wedge and was later adopted everywhere, when in 2019 the club dropped all on-snow leading.
For us that was the end, we'd joined the club for that service when we were relatively novice skiers, enjoyed it so much that we later both became reps. I did that for 20 years, but once it was gone there just did not/does not seem any rationale for the club's continued existence.
I was surprised that it didn't get any publicity or "re-launch" activity and I only found out very near the end of the season when the Meribel rep started posting on Facebook seasonaire pages. Or maybe it did and I just didn't notice but I would have expected it to get commented upon on SHs and never saw anything.
I assume they must have done some kind of deal with the ESF to be allowed back - anyone know what the new terms are?
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@Je suis un Skieur, I didn't think the repping service had ever completely disappeared - certainly when they started the ILG there was always a rep there as well.
The key point is whether they're offering on-snow leading, and whether they're covering their asses, legally-speaking, and those of the reps. As far as I can tell from the website they're not talking about skiing with the rep at all, so clearly not gone back to the previous model.
I've read here that they may be doing 'social skiing' with groups, which was what happened to Freshtracks holidays, and why we pulled out and then left the club. Seemed to us that it put the rep in a vulnerable position, officially not leading the group, so not specifically insured to do so, but in practice under Swiss and other laws the most experienced skier will always be deemed to be a de-facto leader, and for us, as ski instructors working occasionally elsewhere within Switzerland, this would always have been a given.
As such if someone had an accident we would automatically be assumed to be responsible (for the group, not the accident per se) and then that would be a matter for us and our own personal insurers, whereas under the previous arrangement the club would, and did in at least two cases I know of, provide all the support and backup that may be needed.
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SCGB website wrote:
What can a Ski Club Rep do for you
Ski Club Reps help you discover better skiing.
Your Personal Resort Guru: Think of them as your walking, talking, skiing encyclopaedias.
Unite and Conquer: They’re all about fostering the spirit of togetherness and championing Members skiing together.
Adventures Galore: Get ready for a rollercoaster of fun! These maestros of merriment are masters at curating a weekly lineup of exciting events.
Perks and Discounts: Discover the treasure trove of Ski Club benefits and discounts, courtesy of your Reps.
No indication that they will 'lead' groups, but they could be coordinating 'Members skiing together'.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
ecureuil wrote:
SCGB website wrote:
What can a Ski Club Rep do for you
Ski Club Reps help you discover better skiing.
Your Personal Resort Guru: Think of them as your walking, talking, skiing encyclopaedias.
Unite and Conquer: They’re all about fostering the spirit of togetherness and championing Members skiing together.
Adventures Galore: Get ready for a rollercoaster of fun! These maestros of merriment are masters at curating a weekly lineup of exciting events.
Perks and Discounts: Discover the treasure trove of Ski Club benefits and discounts, courtesy of your Reps.
No indication that they will 'lead' groups, but they could be coordinating 'Members skiing together'.
Rollercoaster of fun and maestros of merriment = old folk getting pissed
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ecureuil wrote:
SCGB website wrote:
What can a Ski Club Rep do for you
Ski Club Reps help you discover better skiing.
Your Personal Resort Guru: Think of them as your walking, talking, skiing encyclopaedias.
Unite and Conquer: They’re all about fostering the spirit of togetherness and championing Members skiing together.
Adventures Galore: Get ready for a rollercoaster of fun! These maestros of merriment are masters at curating a weekly lineup of exciting events.
Perks and Discounts: Discover the treasure trove of Ski Club benefits and discounts, courtesy of your Reps.
No indication that they will 'lead' groups, but they could be coordinating 'Members skiing together'.
Well sHs of course has its very own 'maestro of merriment' in the shape of our highly esteemed dear leader (aka @admin).
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chocksaway wrote:
The demographics of the SCGB are pretty much the same as Snowheads,
Actually, that's not true despite being something your friend Gerry keeps saying I can understand why you might believe him though. There is, obviously, something of a crossover between SCGB members and snowHeads, from back in the day, and your being part of the active community of TeaClubbers around Tignes/Val d'Isere brings you, I'm sure, into contact with quite a few snowHeads. Of course, your sample will be skewed by the fact that the snowHeads you meet will be the ones old enough to fit the SCGB demographic too. Honestly though, on most bashes there are loads of snowHeads young enough never to have even heard of the SCGB (eg. 30s, 40s 50s)
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so the issue exists for both.
Potentially, in the future yes, which is something to be mindful of, but the actual numbers show it's not an issue for us at the moment.
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The SCGB is far from perfect, but is improving and I’m more than happy to be a member whilst it suits, I realise that doesn’t suit the entrenched views of a few Snowhead members.
Now why do you have to go and do that?
This thread, over the past few days has been a perfectly civilised and informative chat amongst predominantly, but not exclusively, SCGB members. OK, not all views are positive but neither are they exclusively negative - no particular axes being ground: seems like a good natured, balanced discussion. What could be more helpful? So why did you feel the need to try to swerve it into an US V THEM scenario. OK, it's a classic Toxic Gerry move and we expect that from him - but why are you choosing to grind his axe/worry his bone?
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Admin, as I’m sure you will recall we have discussed this topic in person a couple of times, so I was a little surprised by your reply. The views are my own based on my experience and nothing to do with Gerry, I haven’t spoken to him for 8 years. This was the first post in this years merry go round of the rehashed views. It looks mildly provocative to me.
Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
Necrobump cos I was just curious. In the absence of naive young staffers unconvincingly spamming sHs or supersmart business angels trying to steal other people's IP without due dilligence, apology or contrition, is the SCGB still a thing?
I mean its erstwhile multi time director still pops up in apres to spread jackbooted bile but I understand he got turfed.
Given some of the insults I have had thrown at me over the years, my last comment was merely a minor dig. If you wish to ban anything but civilised comments I would welcome it.
As for the demographics, I have only joined in with the PSBs in Tignes and the same for the SCGB with whom I have spent a lot of time. And yes the demographics are similar in my experience. I have skied with a number of 20 and 30 somethings on the ILG.
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@chocksaway, I'll accept mildly provocative but the SCGB has rather shot itself in the foot over time. I was and remain curious as to what the actual offering is?
Is the value proposition ski enough in certain resorts and you'll be quids in on ILG? Or is it a standing charge to access the local Facebook group for peer to peer skiing? Or is it a hostage fee on a unique insurance package or unique holidays?
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what's the "ILG"?
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@Dave of the Marmottes, TBF the social and organisational aspects, e.g. putting together groups for mountain guiding and stuff, were always a significant part of what we did as reps, and these will I'm sure be more to the fore these days.
I never did the ILG (@under a new name, Instructor-lead-guiding) - Swiss based so unaffected when it first started in France, then we just left when they dropped all on-snow leading everywhere (cos as a rep/leader that was what it was all about for me) but I gather that many members have been happy to pay for it (albeit at a price which I always understood to have been heavily subsidised from club funds, at least initially). The ability to just rock up in resort and have a group to ski with all week, or some of it at least, is unchanged and for many people that was the most important part of it.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
@Dave of the Marmottes, Thanks. And yes, there was some shooting in the foot that nearly bankrupted the Club, mostly down to one individual.
I would say the offering is still evolving since it nearly all fell apart. The Reps offering is still trying to find its feet, trying to recreate a bit of the old, whilst staying within the law (be that perceived or actual - recollections (and opinions) vary! As ever, the success of the Rep depends on the individual. Some are very good at organising and socialising and some, well, look after Number One. The on piste offering is a bit awkward as they don’t lead but suggest according to the book. Some do lead, some hand over to others.
Val D’Isere is a stand out as they have lots of locals who take groups out daily, in full view of the Pulls Rouges. Quite often they have 100 members at the meet point. If the Club could bottle this and get it to spread across resorts it would be into a winner, but it really comes down to a few folks who got together and created something out of nothing. But they do recruit lots of new members, even though their actions are kept at arms length from London.
For me the main benefits in recent years have been the Instructor Led Guiding (@under a new name, this is a programme of, mainly off piste, subsidised days out with a qualified instructor). It’s on these days I have met the generation 30 years behind us. It used to be very good value, not so much now.
Secondly, the insurance. It’s a good product for snow sports that, for my current circumstances, is a lot cheaper than the other main competitors. I’m not a hostage, as the membership element is essentially free for me.
The holiday company Freshtracks is now on a better financial footing. It has quite a following and does offer holidays for different abilities and activities. You can pick and choose and everything is sorted for you including guides etc if appropriate. They also do singles holidays/ rooms. There are folks that like to DIY, others don’t have the time or CBA and that’s where the Tour Op comes in. The variety of the offers does provide stuff that the big companies don’t. But there’s very little at the budget end, so the Membership cost is probably not a factor!
I don’t really get involved with the online stuff, which probably says all you need to know.
..I realise that doesn’t suit the entrenched views of a few Snowhead members.
That SCGB Ltd director did his best to create and entrench those views in these pages.
I would not be happy for my children to encounter that sort of disgraceful behaviour online, let alone during skiing.
He may be gone, but the governance and attitudes which nurtured that problem probably haven't.
chocksaway wrote:
The demographics of the SCGB are pretty much the same as Snowheads, so the issue exists for both.
I don't have the stats, but the SCGB Ltd report above has no snowboards in it, where as here we have snowboards, so somewhat different.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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chocksaway wrote:
chocksaway wrote:
The demographics of the SCGB are pretty much the same as Snowheads, so the issue exists for both.
I don't have the stats, but the SCGB Ltd report above has no snowboards in it, where as here we have snowboards, so somewhat different.
Over the 20-years I was a rep there were frequent initiatives to try and recruit more boarders, most of which met with limited success at best. TBF they were slightly more prevalent on snow than in the membership figures overall, but still probably made up less than 10-20% overall even at the peak.
There were, by the late 2010s, something like a dozen boarding reps (one a good friend of ours who we introduced to the club) out of perhaps a couple of hundred active reps at any given time.
(Figures based on my sketchy memory of reps' end-of-season debrief and training sessions.)
Over the 20-years I was a rep there were frequent initiatives to try and recruit more boarders, most of which met with limited success at best. TBF they were slightly more prevalent on snow than in the membership figures overall, but still probably made up less than 10-20% overall even at the peak.
My surveys of the number of boarders in French resorts by simply by counting the number visible in webcams shows that somewhere between 1 in 20 to 1 in 10 are boarders. Hence you are getting a greater percentage of boarders than exist (in France anyway). I have noticed a slight increase in boarders in recent years to perhaps more commonly 1 in 10 and even some younger people taking it up.
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@chocksaway, thanks. So it seems the rep programme is still somewhat of a grey area. Membership worthwhile if you'll be spending time in VDI/Tignes. Perhaps less so other places unless you want one of the tied in things like Freshtracks or insurance.
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I can understand why you might believe him though. There is, obviously, something of a crossover between SCGB members and snowHeads, from back in the day, and your being part of the active community of TeaClubbers around Tignes/Val d'Isere brings you, I'm sure, into contact with quite a few snowHeads. Of course, your sample will be skewed by the fact that the snowHeads you meet will be the ones old enough to fit the SCGB demographic too. Honestly though, on most 