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The English and their big fat skis
 Poster: A snowHead
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livetoski,
Thanks for the clip, very good for such wide skis. I see that the conditions are however soft and not boiler plate. He also appears to be picking up speed as opposed controlling the speed with tight arcs as in this clip .....


http://youtube.com/v/z0eSifKmyMc

I suppose the only real fair comparison would be the same skier on boilerplate using wide and narrow skis on different runs. The point I and others are trying to make is not that fat skis are a bad thing for all but that a skier with far less skiing talent than your son would have more chance making a decent turn on a hard piste while riding narrow skis as opossed to 110 mmm wide skis.

Even with the best technique in the world, achieving more than a skided turn is difficult if you can't get the edges in .......

http://youtube.com/v/PtMmtn20QVg
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I think DB's original question wasn't quite right - it's not whether you can make short turns on fat skis (obviously you can - e.g., pivot/unweighting doesnt need you to go all the way from edge to edge) its whether you can CARVE short turns on fat skis. Your son was skiing very nice short swing turns but he wasn't carving. It's when you try to really drop your hip into short turns on fat skis that you see their limitations
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The ability to carve tight turns on fat skis is pretty much limited by their sidecut and their torsional rigidity. Fat skis tend to have a longer turn radius as they're mainly designed for deep deformable snow, and they are on the whole a fair bit softer than race skis, again due to the type of snow they're skied on. I've tried a pair of Zags with a 13m turn radius a few years ago and could rail some pretty tight slalom-radius turns, albeit on softening corduroy so not bullet-proof ice. Try carving slalom turns on a thin-waisted pair of GS or Super-G skis and you'll find it almost as difficult as on a fat ski with a similar sidecut radius.
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livetoski, looks like there is lots of snow... why are you making him do short radius turns on piste?! wink
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