@Peter S, Corvara’s a great place and should be pretty pleasant next week with plenty of sunshine. Possibly a bit windy, though not as much as further north and west. May get a midweek top up.
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Rained all afternoon in the Grenoble Alps today but... it didn't rain that much so although the snow was a bit heavy it has consolidated the fresh snow and in terms of depths we are back to where we were a week ago but with a more compact and stable snowpack, when it refreezes. That is the key, tomorrow the zero iso will be close to 3000 meters and 20mm of rain is expected to very high altitudes, not a day to be out and about and I expect there will be some big slides coming down avalanche couloirs in places either Sunday or Monday with the heat-wave.
GFS18z again bowls out a similar pattern for the period round 10 February.
It actually introduces it a little earlier and that could mean rain on Sunday week in the western Alps before temperatures drop and snowfall. But to be honest it’s still far to far out to know whether it’ll actually happen at all let alone worry about the detail. Worth keeping an eye on though.
Meantime’s some wisdoms from Luke Bryan to keep you going through tomorrow.
That's a really moist front modeled to pass through on Tuesday. The favored high spots along the northern side - especially in the Arlberg - could really get buried. Then the follow-up nordstau looks like it might bury the Dachstein area.
The next several days could see a pretty impressive avalanche cycle. Hopefully this weekend rips out the instability and next week's snow binds well to the old layers.
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altaski8 wrote:
...........The next several days could see a pretty impressive avalanche cycle. Hopefully this weekend rips out the instability and next week's snow binds well to the old layers.
So wind doesn't play any part in your snow-pack forecast then in the next seven days, and what the feck is a pretty impressive avalanche cycle
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00z GFS continues to suggest more unsettled weather will press in around 10 February.
You can see it clearly in the ensembles at present albeit the op run is at the top end of the pack.
The Arlberg
Tignes
You can see from the Tignes ensembles in particular that it comes in warm and stormy.
However, ECM really isn’t connecting on this. It keeps high pressure in control.
For what it’s worth GEM leans more towards GFS (though a little slower).
But until there is some consensus, still a lot of uncertainty.
Meteo France has put the departments of the Savoie and Haute-Savoie on orange alert for avalanches and has warned that with the heavy rain and thaw on Sunday that infrastructure could be affected or roads with avalanche couloirs.
"The snow-pack is deep at altitude and the upper layers of recent or windblown snow are not well consolidated. Stabilization has begun, particularly below 1800-2000 meters, locally higher by humidification due to the thaw accompanied by light rain during Saturday afternoon. The risk of natural avalanches will increase rapidly during Sunday and become High due to the temperatures and renewed rainfall".
Almost all mountain ranges in the area are at risk 4/5 (HIGH) from midday Sunday. Meteo France predicts between 20 to 40 mm of rain on Sunday with the zero isotherm around 2500 meters, perhaps higher. The avalanche risk is Considerable to High across the Isere but the danger is less pronounced due to a thinner snow-pack and less rainfall, up to 20 mm during Sunday afternoon. The situation should stabilize somewhat with a return to cold weather on Tuesday.
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How long does it take for this kind of thing to stabilise, and what conditions facilitate the process? Heading off to Monterosa a week today and am very keen to do as much skiing off-piste as possible, but am a little wary of avalanche risk.
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@J2R, are you really heading off to Monterosa? Had no idea.
Cold weather will stabilise things and funnily enough the rain will in its own way too.
Read the local avalanche report and get a guide.
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On the pistes in Ovronnaz, it's snowing around 1900 metres, feels very humid, with the snow at lower elevations decidedly 'springlike'. An early stop is on the cards.
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@coddlesangers, don’t leave it too late. Someone will nick your seat at the bar!
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Almost all mountain ranges in the area are at risk 4/5 (HIGH) from midday Sunday. Meteo France predicts between 20 to 40 mm of rain on Sunday with the zero isotherm around 2500 meters, perhaps higher. The avalanche risk is Considerable to High across the Isere but the danger is less pronounced due to a thinner snow-pack and less rainfall, up to 20 mm during Sunday afternoon. The situation should stabilize somewhat with a return to cold weather on Tuesday.
Similar in CH with a 4 rating as Noza posted above. Surprised everything is currently open in Verbier. Precip still light but supposed to get heavier later.
Love this pic. Today probably not the day to roll the dice
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And forgot my goggles. Should be interesting in the sunnies!
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@nozawaonsen, sorry, just getting a little over-excited! Wouldn't the rain cause a new unstable thin layer?
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Still dry here, occasional flurry along with some Japanese sunshine as well!
Been a good morning with first lifts and even found some safe untracked for the OH of my daughter's boss along with photos and vids so they're all happy
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06z GFS sticks to its guns for 10 February and a rather wild start to the week.
This would bring snow and cold temperatures to the northern side of the Alps, but would likely start mild and stormy.
And forgot my goggles. Should be interesting in the sunnies!
The result of a massively over optimistic reading of the forecast!
Look forward to hearing how it is up top. I am focussed on le Crunch!
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It is tipping it down with snow here at the Igloo at 2900m. It was very windy at the top so I’m defrosting
It was snowing at 2300 when I started but I think the freezing level is going up so will see (hopefully!) on the way down...
Since I last posted, and took some 20/21 Movement Touring skis out to test, temps have risen but still not the heavy precipitation that was forecast for now.
Wind has picked up but lifts still running and snow like Spring velcro so dropped skis back explaining that "ce n'est pas juste" to formulate an opinion, that said I know my Black Crows would have smashed through it.
All in all, considering I thought we were only going to ski for a couple of hours was a good session, plus I didn't expect to find too many decent lines as I was not geared up for serious off-piste.
Hey-ho next decision, where to go and watch Le Crunch.
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Obertauern today was much better than forecast, warm(5c at noon), but no rain. A little light snow mid afternoon and light rain at our wimpish 4 pm finish. ( we were with our 20–30 year old brood and partners. The young don’t have the stamina!). Snow cover was still decent, but obviously slushy and getting worn in a few heavy wear areas. Bring on the snow and the Tues/we’d temp drop. Beer awaits
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GFS12z not buckling, will ECM?
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Absolutely waterlogged locally, worse than forecast with the snowline at 2600m, 2800m at times. Things were a bit better in the far north of the Northern French Alps.
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@davidof, where is that?
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@davidof, the other day I was disappointed that Monterosa was in a kind of precipitation shadow. Today, not so much...
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Really just a passing glance from ECM12z for the start of next week. Unless it starts to build support in the next run or two I would imagine GFS will back down on that too.
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Epic rain in cham.
2500m+ Snow line.
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@nozawaonsen, If this happens then reasonable amounts of snow for that week? Not that different to GFS now?
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@munich_irish, 12z ECM is definitely more of a glancing blow. You end up with about 10-20cm if it comes off. GFS, certainly earlier today was looking at a fair bit more. But we’ll see. I suppose my sense is it’s feels like it’s ebbing. On the plus side that reduces the chances of another mild stormy Sunday.
Thursday and Friday currently feel like the days you ought to take off just as a precautionary measure in case you might be feeling ill. Pre emptive sick leave. Because you can never be too sure.
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@davidof, where is that?
top photo is where I was today (still haven't warmed up) at 1400 meters in the Chartreuse near Grenoble.
Bottom photo is today at 1100 meters in the French Jura (the FL is about 300 meters lower that far north).
This week's snowfall now seems to have disappeared. The pisteurs told me they expected virtually no snow this week - they will have to make snow when it is cold.
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@J2R, yep parts of Italy and eastern Austria can miss out on the big snow when it comes in from the west, but it also saves them from the big mild Atlantic storms (this one is particularly mild and stormy). Though there will be a very large amount of snow above 2500m+ once this and the next colder system has passed through.
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@nozawaonsen, fortunately there's a fair amount of skiing above 2500 metres where I'm going (Monterosa, don't know whether I mentioned ), with the top lift being at 3275 metres, so I'm looking forward to being able to sample that. Hope the rain stays off for the early part of the week, though. Even if it's snowing higher up, often the visibility is then too poor to have much fun skiing.
@J2R, yes though the corollary of my point is that whilst Monterosa won’t have been getting quite as much rain below 2500m (or actually a few hundred metres lower) it won’t get as much snow up top. Swings and roundabouts. But think you’ll be ok.
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@nozawaonsen, it certainly looks like it should be dumping up top there this evening, with more to come Tuesday, unless Bergfex (ECM?) is completely wrong, which doesn't seem likely 2 days out.
@J2R, no, I was just talking comparatively. So for example compared to what is falling out if the sky in other parts of the Alps such as Chamonix. Which is a lot more than Monterosa, but which has a snow line a few hundred metres higher.
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Looks like there’s been a lot of snow above 2300m in the Valais. It wasn’t much fun skiing in it today but it’s putting a serious base in for the rest of the season. And snow down to the valley floor on Tuesday...
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This still to come though on the positive side from tomorrow it’ll be in the form of snow to low levels.
Next week still looking unsettled on GFS and ECM in northern Alps though continuing uncertainty. Question if it happens is timing and temperatures as to whether it falls as rain or snow. So keep an eye on that. Not looking as heavy as this week.
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@nozawaonsen, it's howling today and meant to be even strong tomorrow (60kph), at least down in this part of the world.
Just had a look at Les Houches out of curiosity, and wind speeds are half of what we're due.
Though SnowForecast does not have it was windy as Meteociel, there again SnowForecast wind speeds are not right for today, 25kph at 2,000m, I'd estimate it's 45+ up there currently!
As I type this one gust came through and scared the dogs
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@nozawaonsen, This weather front would bring real cold to Scotland no?
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), with the top lift being at 3275 metres, so I'm looking forward to being able to sample that. Hope the rain stays off for the early part of the week, though. Even if it's snowing higher up, often the visibility is then too poor to have much fun skiing.
