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France: Chamonix Valley 2012/13 snow report

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Zero-G, after the wind of the last week I would keep away from the Jeurs sector for a few days. There were very large cornices there last week and the entry on one of the main gullies was gnarly as..
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Thanks guys. It's starting to get really busy, seeing loads more people on the mountain than in the past few weeks.
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is the Jeurs sector up the glacier du tour or on the swiss side:?

looking good out there today for a nice afternoon slide around Smile
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eddiethebus, it's on the Swiss side, the area east of the Tete du Balme. I've had some of my best skiing over there but the prevailing wind in the valley dumps huge amounts of snow and I have seen some very large spontaneous avalanches there. If there has been a significant snowfall and high wind it's takes a few extra days for it to be safe, plus there are some steep slopes. It's common for someone to get the chop over there each season. The people walking up the hill from the top of the Tete du Balme lift are heading there.
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Another incredible day of powder, more snowfall, and did I mention powder? I skied my legs off today and had the best day's skiing of my skiing life.


AWESOME!!! Very Happy
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eddiethebus, it's on the Swiss side, the area east of the Tete du Balme. I've had some of my best skiing over there but the prevailing wind in the valley dumps huge amounts of snow and I have seen some very large spontaneous avalanches there. If there has been a significant snowfall and high wind it's takes a few extra days for it to be safe, plus there are some steep slopes. It's common for someone to get the chop over there each season. The people walking up the hill from the top of the Tete du Balme lift are heading there.


arr yeah i know it. We actually did that the beginning of Jan, had no idea what it was called though!
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Thanks for your great updates snowheads. I'm heading over there for a short solo trip from 17th to 21st and I've been obsessively checking this thread. I know a watched pot never boils but this one seems to be simmering away nicely.
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Finally, a wee bit of sunshine today but it's still bitterly cold with continuing light snow showers. The powder is still in good nick, not too heavy yet – I expect it will be much harder work by tomorrow but I'm not complaining, it can only make the legs stonger. It's been a fantastic week snowHead

Watched an off piste heli rescue drama unfold today. There but for the grace of god, etc...

PaddyBlax, that's still way in the future. Welcome to snowheads snowHead
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it wasnt the rescue at the bottom of the coulier under the cornu lift was it? hope there ok Confused

great day though! nice to be able to see where i'm going to fall over for a change!! Very Happy
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eddiethebus wrote:
it wasnt the rescue at the bottom of the coulier under the cornu lift was it?
Yep, that little couloir just to the (looker's) right of the final ungroomed steep pitch of the Cornu. I'm not sure of the outcome, it was too cold to stand around stationary for too long. But let's just say that I picked my way down that ungroomed pitch very carefully (almost minced my way down!) after seeing that.
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yeah we came down and spotted them, they were dropping a medic off from the helicopter as we were going back up the chair.
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Maybe this, one dead I understand.

http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2013/02/08/avalanche-dans-un-couloir-face-au-mont-blanc
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another death too - a Lithuanian. Inevitable, I suppose, given the conditions, that people will be out taking chances. Sad
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jbob, that's on the other side but didn't know about that one. pam w is right, with conditions being what they are, people may be taking more chances. It's certainly been a lot busier this week.

Sadly, this snowy period is drawing to an end and the upcoming forecast is looking a tad dry.
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"Looking a tad dry"

.???
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:/ as long as some more fresh drops before the 9th March, I'm happy Smile
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under a new name, last night's meteo was showing no new snowfall for the next few days apart from light flurries today. They weren't exactly light flurries though, it snowed properly for the first few hours today and it was complete whiteout. Still very good skiing, apart from the hordes – where the hell did they come from?

It has been growing steadily busier each day this week and the queue for the top bin was nuts today. I suppose we shouldn't complain, all these people bring in money that keeps the infrastructure going Confused
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Zero-G, it's going to be f busy for the next couple of weeks, which is why I have come back to the uk for the next two weeks.
The ensembles show snow maybe a lot tomorrow night and Monday. Have fun.



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jbob, shhh don't tell the weather thread junkies that I don't know how to read those wigglies Embarassed

If what you're saying is correct, then I'm off to book a guide for Tuesday snowHead
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Zero-G, it's easy, the top wiggles are temp in centigrade read off the left scale, the bottom wiggles are rain/snow in mm/cm read off the right scale. The more the wiggles converge the more reliable the forecast. Thursday might be a better day for the guide. Where are you thinking of going?
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jbob, ah thanks, by converge, do you mean the all the temp wiggles converging with each other and all the snow wiggles converging with each other? And why the many different coloured wiggles in each group?

Not sure, thought I'd let the guide decide based on weather and conditions.
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Zero-G, each line is the output of a run of a computer model (some an average of models) based on slightly differing inputs and/or a different way of calculating.

When they all agree or converge the forecaster will be confident that they are an accurate prediction.

The temp and precipitation are separate. They do link in that disturbances, ie rain/snow are usually accompanied by warmer temperatures, conversely clear days are usually colder.

So according to the chart above Wed, Thurs will be cold and clear.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MS_746_ens.png this link will always give an upto date picture for Chamonix, the guys at meteo cham will be using this and my guess is they are way better at interpreting it than me Madeye-Smiley
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jbob, ahh it's all clear to me now – thanks, that's very helpful and link has been bookmarked!
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Zero-G, not tempting fate but "a tad dry" would be my (ironic) description of January and February 1990, when it didn't snow, at all, for NINE WEEKS!!!

I am quite happy with the average alpine cycle of a few day sun and a few days snow, repeat.

Had a few hours up Brevent late afternoon, till lifts shut. Pistes as good as pistes get, nive and cold, lovely snow. Couloir under Cornu chair nice but decidedly skied. Will have a nice rutline in a few days Cool

Home run a wee bit stony. Would it be unfair to ask that if you can't ski it without sideslipping or skidding that you download? It would last a lot longer for everyone else that way, and you know you aren't enjoying it.
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under a new name, you did NOT say that out loud? Shocked

As for the 'scrapers' on the home run, I hear what you're saying but they paid the same for their lift passes so they can't very well be denied. Although you do have to wonder why they do it when the barrier at the top says something like "hard snow" and it's marked as a black run.
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Home run a wee bit stony. Would it be unfair to ask that if you can't ski it without sideslipping or skidding that you download? It would last a lot longer for everyone else that way, and you know you aren't enjoying it.


under a new name, are you cagey in disguise!!! Wink
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Zero-G, while I accept your lift pass argument, there is absolutely no way that the majority of scrapers on the run that I passed were having fun.

Unless their idea of fun differs very wildy from mine. Skiing shouldn't be a painful struggle. If it is, you are a. Doing it wrong, b. In the wrong place* c. a and b.

If you find a painful struggle to be fun, I know a couple of groovy joints in Geneva where you can have more fun for less money in kinkier gear and a bit more warmth.

Just sayin'.

* probably implies a. anyway... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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Touchguru, I am not.

I have not (knowingly) insulted any of my fellow snowheads + see ^
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Touchguru, I am not.


Damn!! I was hoping that this thread would turn Bard-esque as well!! Wink
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it's going to be f busy for the next couple of weeks

make that five weeks.
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Brevent pistes very pleasant today, not nearly as busy as might have been.

Les Nants better than yesterday, thank you scrapers, you clearly listened to my sage advice.
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No cageyness here
A place of love and cold pleasure
Long may it be so
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Both, Laughing

Actually, I'm surprised you found it quieter today, the number of arrivals I saw last night and throughout today is alarming. And the square hasn't been this busy since the Christmas/New Year weeks. I bet the retailers are happy.
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Nice one, jbob

Zero-G, that's what we expected, pleasantly surprised. Couldn't be bothered waiting 45 mins for liaison but otherwise no issues.
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Yup, I think that until the school hols are over, the Liaison is to be avoided.
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GM astonishingly quiet today esp compared to last weekend . . .
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ww166no, o noes, did I make a poor call?
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under a new name, I think many avoid GM on really cold days, me for one.
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So where did they go?
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jbob wrote:
under a new name, I think many avoid GM on really cold days, me for one.
On really cold days, I avoid it in the mornings when it has no sun at all.
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