 Poster: A snowHead
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My rule of thumb would be that it can snow down to 300m below the freezing level. What is more tricky to work out is how quickly the snow line moves down hill as the melting of the snow removes heat from the surrounding atmosphere.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Rob Mackley, @jonathancarty, this season especially at times there has been absolutely no logic to the PN levels - we don't usually get too many inversions here in Serre Che, but this season there have been a few and that just makes a mockery of predicted levels.
And sometimes you'll get wet snow at +2 other times rain at 0 - for sure you'd usually expect if it's raining on our terrace at 1400 and temps are +3 that at 2,000 it will be snow, but again not the case, though if it is snowing then it's the equivalent of instant cement 
So this weekend is gradually shaping up, and could well be another snowmageddon with the start of the holidays.
Models have changed way for the better for down in this part of the world in the past 12hrs so here's hoping that YR is correct, that said Meteociel are showing better volumes
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Can anyone explain in layman's terms the likelihood that there'll be some decent snow in Alpes Vaudoises from 16/02? We're staying in Barboleuse for the week so hoping there's enough to keep us entertained
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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selective journalism as expected......why report the main resorts when you can create a story using little known, low resorts for sensationalism
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I wouldn't believe the football results in the Daily Mail.
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@DomEvans8, I'll try and remember to update as I'm there this weekend. But it looks like sleet turning to snow for before you arrive so should be fine!
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I thought it was interesting too. Thanks.
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| leggyblonde wrote: |
| @DomEvans8, I'll try and remember to update as I'm there this weekend. But it looks like sleet turning to snow for before you arrive so should be fine! |
Great, thank you! fingers crossed for you
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| stefoy4me wrote: |
| selective journalism as expected......why report the main resorts when you can create a story using little known, low resorts for sensationalism |
It's important not to stick heads in the sand.
Around 1 in 3 lower resorts across NW Europe are now closed, due to lack of snow.
Many resorts are greener than Al Gore's smoothie.
Yet another 3-5 days of rain for lower stations are coming at the backend of this week.
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whitegold...head is not in the sand, but article clearly does not make any balanced points of view by stating that there is very good snow cover above 1800m
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Very little snow on the mountains in NYC or Washington or Liverpool for that matter. Been heading high for 20 years now. Low resorts for on the minute or obviously locals.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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All that promise of a prolonged cold snap after this weekends fun and games seems to have gone up in smoke
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Rob Mackley, Look on the bright side- the temperature accompanying the first wave of precipitation tonight looks to have dropped a couple of degrees.
In the longer term the spread is vast and the average of the ensembles is tending towards the mean which I read as "anything can happen".
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Got to say I've never seen such a wide spread of options from the wiggles! From Baltic to Caribbean!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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But. This week looks good. Pretty much all the gfs runs give a max of 5 degrees during the day with well below at night. Looks like this weekend’s precipitation will definitely fall as snow above 2000m and probably below that too. So we are lucky our half term in best week not the week after. As we are flying tomorrow, looking forward to some skiing in the snow on Friday/Saturday/Sunday.
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Any kind of refresh over Sat/Sun/Mon will be welcomed, especially by the half term crowd! Just hoping that we also get a freshen up on the lower slopes below 1700m and not just up high.
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Would this weekends snow be of any benefit to us travelling out on the 16th do we think? or are we back to the position we're in now by then? Currently looking like temperatures remaining low but no fresh snow for a few days prior to our arrival
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@DomEvans8, where are you going?
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I know a few on here use YR and they really are being very optimistic for down here - whilst others are for ever-changing for the worse each run it seems.
As ever it will be what it will be, but I can't see too much actually ending up laying on the valley floor, but think there will be enough to cause havoc for traffic over the Lautaret at circa 2,000m and Montgenevre at 1850 - they might even close the Lautaret and divert all traffic the long way round.
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| Weathercam wrote: |
| As ever it will be what it will be, but I can't see too much actually ending up laying on the valley floor, but think there will be enough to cause havoc for traffic over the Lautaret at circa 2,000m and Montgenevre at 1850 - they might even close the Lautaret and divert all traffic the long way round. |
We're off to Valloire on Saturday, and this is pretty much how I see it - Valloire is at 1430m so I think it'll just get either rain or sleet on Saturday at resort level (which we might be glad of when we drive in!), with maybe a sprinkling of snow on Sunday down to the village if we get lucky. The majority of skiing is above 2000m, where I hope it'll get a decent dumping.
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| denfinella wrote: |
| @DomEvans8, where are you going? |
we're staying in Gryon so our pass covers Gryon-villars-les diablerets, believe most skiing is below 2000 unless we head to Glacier 3000 but could be wrong, resort around 1200.
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| Handy Turnip wrote: |
| Weathercam wrote: |
| As ever it will be what it will be, but I can't see too much actually ending up laying on the valley floor, but think there will be enough to cause havoc for traffic over the Lautaret at circa 2,000m and Montgenevre at 1850 - they might even close the Lautaret and divert all traffic the long way round. |
We're off to Valloire on Saturday, and this is pretty much how I see it - Valloire is at 1430m so I think it'll just get either rain or sleet on Saturday at resort level (which we might be glad of when we drive in!), |
1430 is the exit of the resort on the Galibier road, the resort is 1400m.
You have to get over the Col du Telegraphe first, 1566m.
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| DomEvans8 wrote: |
| denfinella wrote: |
| @DomEvans8, where are you going? |
we're staying in Gryon so our pass covers Gryon-villars-les diablerets, believe most skiing is below 2000 unless we head to Glacier 3000 but could be wrong, resort around 1200. |
Les Diablerets tends to hold snow better as it is the shadow of Glacier 3000.
Glacier 3000 has some nice piste, very mellow at the top the a long red and a very steep black to the valley that is rarely open.
Glacier 3000 tends to take a few days to open after fresh snowfall.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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In last few weeks I have skiied Splügen and Flims Laax in Eastern Switzerland and Verbier in Western Switzerland. Plenty of snow above 1600m. Spring snow on sunny and lower slopes, hard pack, chalky snow on upper and shaded slopes. Has got more icey this week but there is still plenty of skiing to be had.
This weekends snow will be a nice refresh, likely to be pretty lively avalanche conditions for a couple of days.
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| davidof wrote: |
| Handy Turnip wrote: |
| Weathercam wrote: |
| As ever it will be what it will be, but I can't see too much actually ending up laying on the valley floor, but think there will be enough to cause havoc for traffic over the Lautaret at circa 2,000m and Montgenevre at 1850 - they might even close the Lautaret and divert all traffic the long way round. |
We're off to Valloire on Saturday, and this is pretty much how I see it - Valloire is at 1430m so I think it'll just get either rain or sleet on Saturday at resort level (which we might be glad of when we drive in!), |
1430 is the exit of the resort on the Galibier road, the resort is 1400m.
You have to get over the Col du Telegraphe first, 1566m. |
Yep totally! It was precisely the Col du Telegraphe I had in mind when I was thinking we might be grateful for the rain as we come into resort. I suspect there won't be any snow below 1800m on Saturday. Happy to be proved wrong and I'll have some chains just in case!
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You know it makes sense.
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As predicted, the rain and snow have started to arrive this evening in the NW Alps in the past couple hours.
A very mixed 5 days coming up.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Rain up to about 2200 metres here in the Bernese Oberland 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Precipitation levels over the weekend for the NW Alps seem to have petered out faster than an England WC campaign
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@franga, don’t know where you are looking but this is the latest from météo France for Isère …..
Pour la nuit prochaine - NOUVELLE PERTURBATION PAR LE SUD
Pour demain journée et la nuit suivante - COUVERT, VENT DE SUD, PRÉCIPITATIONS SURTOUR VERS LE SUD ISÈRE.
Pour la journée de samedi et la nuit suivante - PLUS FROID À PARTIR DE SAMEDI SOIR AVEC LA NEIGE DES MOYENNE MONTAGNE
Pour dimanche 11 et lundi 12 - ÉCLAIRCIES ET GIBOULÉES DE NEIGE LOCALES SUR LA RELIEF.
Snow level jumping between 1800m and 1300m as the weekend progresses.
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As mentioned before the South East Foehn will keep any major precipitation away from the North Side of the Alpine ridge till Sat night/Sunday . This episode is all about the southern French alps , Maurianne to some extent and up the the south of the Alpine Ridge in Italy , Piedmont and Aosta .
As they say in Haute Tarentaise it won’t snow till theFoehn stops blowing .
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Overnight snow in Flims / Laax reported by my daughter.
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| Rob Mackley wrote: |
As mentioned before the South East Foehn will keep any major precipitation away from the North Side of the Alpine ridge till Sat night/Sunday . This episode is all about the southern French alps , Maurianne to some extent and up the the south of the Alpine Ridge in Italy , Piedmont and Aosta .
As they say in Haute Tarentaise it won’t snow till theFoehn stops blowing . |
Monday will be fun Rob!
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Crystal clear views of the mountains this morning, from Salzburg to the Zugspitze. One of those days when you feel as if you can touch the mountains despite them being 50 km away. Mild though not really typical Föhn weather as cloudy here though clear further south so a fairly weak Föhn. Even so it is not going to do the snow in the northern Austrian alps any favours (it was already pretty dodgy). Conditions in Austria do seem to have been better than reports from elsewhere (was in St Anton at the weekend and it was pretty good but not typical for the lower Tirol) but that might not continue to be the case. At one point there was general snow forecast for next week but now it looks like maybe small amounts of sleety stuff.
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3V avalanche forecast has repeatedly said low snow levels under 1400m, normal above 1800/2000m and still well in surplus above 2500m
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Snowing here in York, 17m asl 
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Sleety snow here on the West Lancashire plain 15m above sea level in the shadow of the Parbold massif. Great conditions on the Stubai Glacier last week seem like a distant memory today, oh well countdown to the next fix in just over 4 weeks has already begun. 
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