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Grand Massif 2023-2024 Snow Report Flaine/Les Carroz/Morillon/Samöens/Sixt

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@sj1608, I believe it needs to be connected to the WiFi first? It’s the connecting to the WiFi bit I can’t do, although I will investigate. Thanks.
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@Boofont, sorry, hadn't realised that. Might be worth posting on the Friends Of Flaine FB group to see if someone could lend you one to get it onto the WiFi.
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@sj1608, I believe it needs to be connected to the WiFi first? It’s the connecting to the WiFi bit I can’t do, although I will investigate. Thanks.


Yeah exactly, I moved to France with our Firestick and without our remote (oops) and this is the problem, getting it on the WiFi. Once you're on the WiFi you can control with the app.
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@sj1608, thanks but hopefully this rain will clear by tomorrow. It’s almost snow so might give it a go. Hopefully ski tomorrow, then home Saturday.
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Just been out for a couple of hours. Intermittent rain/snow at Flaine level, generally falling as wet snow at around 1700/1800m. We’re both soaked!

Runs not great although some are better than others. Quite cut up as you would expect with the conditions. With the bad viz it’s challenging.

We went up Tete des Verds chair and Faust down, wasn’t great higher up but as the viz came in it was ok.

Next, Aup de Veran. Was surprisingly good up there. Viz was ok, the cloud a little less dense perhaps due to the wall sitting to the west/right hand side. Mephsito down which was lovely at the top, bit cut up lower down.

Ended up on Aujon trying to find the top of Stade so took that up but then took the track called Rubis down, then Calcite to pick up the top of Stade. Ignoring the sign saying competions only, (there was nothing taking place!), was good fun although teenage nugget was moaning.

Back up Tete des Verds Tanzanite joining Serpentine. Both ok.

Tomorrow will depend on where the freezing level ends up. I believe it is due to drop lower than Flaine by a few hundred meters. Heavy snow forecast tonight. The condition of the runs may come down to when they are pisted. If they are pisted tonight with the snow falling on them I suspect they will soon be cut up again and not so nice. However, if they are pisted later perhaps in the morning then they may be better. My gut feeling is they will be pisted tonight.

I’m not an off-piste skier but I expect there will be some good runs out there.

For anyone coming out you should have a good few days from Sat onwards although I believe more rain is forecast. Hopefully it’s no where near as bad as the past two days.
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@Boofont, sorry about the rain but you win some, you lose some. I had two days only in Samoens last March so they needed to be good. Day 1, the lifts were closed due to weather, Day 2, I went out and ended up in total whiteout. Got to Flaine very slowly and was lucky on way back to meet some French skiers who accompanied me back to Samoens as I was getting dangerously disorientated. I'd have preferred rain.....

Hope you have a good day tomorrow snowHead
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@Boofont, snow level forecast to 400m overnight, which is a wee bit more than just a few hundred metres, I'd suggest.
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@Boofont, sorry about the rain but you win some, you lose some. I had two days only in Samoens last March so they needed to be good. Day 1, the lifts were closed due to weather, Day 2, I went out and ended up in total whiteout. Got to Flaine very slowly and was lucky on way back to meet some French skiers who accompanied me back to Samoens as I was getting dangerously disorientated. I'd have preferred rain.....

Hope you have a good day tomorrow snowHead


I agree, is what it is. Tbf, in the 30 years or so I’ve been skiing I’ve never really had this before so can’t complain.

Sounds like you had a shocker there also! Years ago in Les Menuries I ended up split from my friends and must have took a wrong turn, ended up in the main bit whereas they headed up the smaller area higher up toward VT. Totally disorientated, I knew I had not gone over the other valley so decide to walk up the road in my ski boots! Took ages and I was knackered! Shocked
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I'm gonna try to get up there before they get pisted but we'll see what happens. Wink If I'm rolling solo I'll hit you up @Boofont! Have a great day tomorrow!
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@coldrainsnow, sure. Do that.

Currently dumping heavy so we shall see how it is in the morning. I’m hoping the cloud clears early!

Night folks. Bon ski!
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Evening all.. We are heading to Samoens Sunday. Rain and high temps make for gloomy reading! sigh..
How's the weather behaving today.. I see on forecasts its looking better in coming days.. Oh any anyone in Flaine.. Is cascades open? Thanks!
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@Boofont, really hope tomorrow is better for you. A bit of snow on what's pisted tonight could be great!

2 weeks tomorrow for me so hoping the tropical forecast next week changes ... showing 10 degrees at 1600m right now a week today Shocked
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So we're in Samoëns village and it was still raining at 10 pm when we left the restaurant, woken this morning to 3inches of fresh snow at the chalet door!
Bit cloudy looking up the mountain but today looks like it's going to be good!
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Evening all.. We are heading to Samoens Sunday. Rain and high temps make for gloomy reading! sigh..
How's the weather behaving today.. I see on forecasts its looking better in coming days.. Oh any anyone in Flaine.. Is cascades open? Thanks!


Hey @nickielmoore, read through this thread a bit and you'll see there's lots of information and updates from Flaine. Boofont has been invaluable this week providing eyes on the ground at the resort.

Cascades is far from open and won't be open for a while - the short of the weather event this week is that we got hammered with rain up to high altitudes up until it changed to snow sometime last night. I have not been up there yet but I assume everything under 1700 or so got hit pretty hard before the snow came back through. There is a good base at least this season, unlike last year, so we have that going for us at least.

The forecasts I'm looking at next week don't look nearly as bad as this past week, although yeah it will be warm and some precip in the early half.
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Morning. 08:20 here in Flaine. Out last day, leaving tomorrow so it’ll be someone else doing the “boots on the ground” reporting, there was someone coming out Saturday if I recall previous posts?

Anyway, significant snow fall overnight and still snowing now. Guess around 30cm plus. Cloud base lower than Flaine, unsure if it’s clear on top, webcams are covered in snow!

Two pics looking up toward the DMC, and then Aup de Veran. The car, that road was completely clear of snow yesterday. The banister which is somewhat sheltered and zero snow yesterday, you can see the snow fall against a 25cl dumpy beer bottle.

Weather said it was due to clear up but not seeing any signs of it yet.

My personnel view, anyone coming out next week should not be too worried. The rain that fell, in my experience anyway, was a rare event. However, I have not been to Flaine before so I may be speaking crap on that one!







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You da real MVP @Boofont, I'm trying to rally a bunch of sleepyheads here but it looks like it will take them a minute to get the roads clear anyway. Let's hope for some clear skies and bluebird skiing this afternoon!!!!
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@coldrainsnow, yeah, hoping for that too. Going to send you a PM with my phone number. If you’re solo drop us a text or something. If you’re with your fam then no dramas.

Latest update at 08:50 before we set off for first tacks, snow has lessened, very light snowfall now. Cloud base lifted to, as a guess, top of Tete des Verds. Slowly seems to be brightening up.
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09:45. Waiting at DMC. Delays due to avalanche checks.
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Thanks for the local report this week. Getting into Samoens tomorrow evening so will hope to provide some sporadic news although being a lads holiday, alcohol may make impact reporting frequency and quality.
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Lunch stop at “K” restaurant at the top of “Kedeuze” in Les Carroz. Decent place, quite cheap. Didn’t have one but the burgers look epic! Massive, €17.

Conditions improving by the hour. Tomorrow will be a cracking day. Alas, heading home. However, off to Saalbach two weeks tomorrow. Looking forward to heated seats on the lifts and well groomed pistes. Lol.
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Lunch stop at “K” restaurant at the top of “Kedeuze” in Les Carroz. Decent place, quite cheap. Didn’t have one but the burgers look epic! Massive, €17.

Conditions improving by the hour. Tomorrow will be a cracking day. Alas, heading home. However, off to Saalbach two weeks tomorrow. Looking forward to heated seats on the lifts and well groomed pistes. Lol.


I'm in Saalbach a week tomorrow, so will let you have an "on the ground" before you head out!
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One of the best days of the season in Flaine right now. About 30-40cm fresh up high. @Boofont, was about to text you but I think we're on opposite sides of the domain right now! Safe travels my friend!
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Lunch stop at “K” restaurant at the top of “Kedeuze” in Les Carroz. Decent place, quite cheap. Didn’t have one but the burgers look epic! Massive, €17.
I was there Sunday, quite a pleasant surprise! There's nothing at the bottom of Kedeuze, we binged on tender chicken: boy had a race, I skinned up there - cheap proteins for recovery!

Back to Grand Massif this weekend, with the weather expect:
- traffic Saturday (locals plus holiday makers)
- avalanches (well at least today), be careful out there
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@coldrainsnow, thanks. Glad you had a good day. We got fed up waiting at the DMC so walked up to Forem and got the orange lift up and the walked to Grand Vans. The queue for the “yogurt pots” (love that name!) was massive.

Did a run on Grand Vans then up again and left, did all areas today. Rounded off with a last run up DMC.

Anyone lucky enough to be out tomorrow will have an epic day. I’ll be thinking of you as I travel home… selfish gits that you are! Lol. Laughing
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I skinned up there…


Had to have a think there, I thought it was boarders that skinned up? Get what you mean now! Lol. You’re walked up with skis!
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By the way how was the wind today? I've heard of Chariande Express (Samoëns) not being too good with strong winds before, and that's where I'm heading to tomorrow - if the wind up there is half as bad as what Geneva experienced today I am weary.
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Fabulous day on the hill today . After 24hours of rain, drop in temperature overnight , the slopes were excellent. Plenty of powder. Thankfully many pistes left ungroomed and pretty empty. We stayed mainly Morillon Les Carroz trees etc.
didn’t make it up to Flaine as viz bad around 1400 hrs
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@patrick!, wind was fine. Did that chair, was no worse than others.

The comment ref “skinning up” and boarders was a joke connected with a smoking pastime some of them like to do, funny smelling green stuff! Skinning up is a term referring to rolling a joint.
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@susieski, we had 48 hours of rain here in Flaine.

Best runs over that side tbh, not as crowded and generally held up better. Only did a few over in Flaine, one in the morning and one in the afternoon, both cut up as you’d expect. Still ok but better runs away from Flaine, in my view anyway.
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Just got back from an absolutely amazing day at Flaine today!!! Snow was epic, about 40 cms up top of fresh medium heavy but wonderful pow. Basically all of the top half pistes were ungroomed and the side- and hors-piste stuff was popping off. Amazing lines down Lucifer and Demon to the side-piste of Almadine and all the way down. First run heading over was down Sortilege was dreamy. So much fresh powder in all directions down off of Grand Vans. Dolomie left ungroomed which led to super fun moguls heading back to the car in Les Carroz haha. No wind up in Flaine (although it was cold!) and viz was great until we left at 16:00.

They were blasting the bowl like crazy and got probably 15-20 slides all around. AV risk was a 4 so all the black runs were closed, including the top half of Serpentine. I'm dreaming of an open Gers tomorrow because it looks super full but that's probably optimistic with the AV danger, but who knows. Zero tracks down it today so at least people were being somewhat smart.

Tomorrow will be great too although I imagine everything will be groomed and the mountain is definitely tracked out..... except for Gers. Wink I'm taking Sunday off and then jumping into the off piste camp next week!
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Ok guys, last “in-resort” update from me.

Epic snow fall last night as posted. Bailed from the DMC as couldn’t be assed waiting. Headed up Grand Vans, down and back up. That run was OK, chopped up even early on but to be expected.

Headed left with a plan to go to Samoens. Dolomie was un-pisted and chopped up, hard going. Took the wrong chair (Les Molliets rather than Tete des Saix) so opted to bash down to Coulouvrier chair via Les Chars (Pacoty has been closed all week). Frustratingly, Les Chars was closed so we changed plan and skied to Morillon Les Essert, Sairon up, then Gron, then stopped for frites at restaurant K as I posted. We’re not in to big posh lunch’s but the food there really does look great and cheapest place we’ve found which is surprising being on the hill. All the runs were great.

From there, Plein Soleil then on to Timlalets. Amazing runs them two, we really enjoyed them both, probs our favs. Snag today… guy came within inches of hitting me out of control, I lost balance swerving as I caught him in my peripheral and had a god-almighty crash that could have easily broken bones. My lad pointed him out at the bottom and I had stern words. Tbf, he listened to me and was very apologetic. Bit that pissed me off was he never stopped to check in me. Very bad form. Anyway…

Back up, Gron, then Tete des Saix, down Dahu, was ok but a bit flat. Took a chair up and then did Aouia. That was a good run. Coulouvrier up, then noticing Les Chars was open we did that. That was lovely. Then Marmotte, great also. Chariande Express up, headed back to Flaine.

Runs down from Grand Vans was pretty crap. Really mogled which I don’t mind on the steep stuff but… With the snowfall, was always going to happen and it will be bashed out nice for tomorrow. Last run was up DMC, photo stop then the top part of Faust which was ok but very moguled. Didn’t mind it as it was a bit steeper and could find a rhythm. From there took the blues to take us to Forêt where we are staying.

Best runs for me as an on-piste skier I’ve found to be generally anything other than Flaine. That’s being a bit harsh on Flaine as for sure there’s some crackers, but I can’t be assed typing which ones so being very broad. Please forgive me. Razz

Here’s me and teenage nugget top of DMC. I’m the fat old one! Laughing

Hope you all have a great time when you arrive. Happy to answer any questions any of you might have coming out! Bon ski!

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@Boofont,
Eh oh! thank you , we’ve really enjoyed your posts
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Great reports @Boofont, enjoyed following and whetted my appetite for being there in a fortnight!

Glad the last day was better weather for you though I'd have dreaded the moguls! Very Happy
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Eh oh! thank you , we’ve really enjoyed your posts


I’m glad. Typing up my day gave me some something to do while nugget ignored me on crapchat, thick-tock… or whatever they’re called.

I notice it says you’re in Scotland, I’m in Moray. Are we close?
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Great reports @Boofont, enjoyed following and whetted my appetite for being there in a fortnight!

Glad the last day was better weather for you though I'd have dreaded the moguls! Very Happy


Glad you enjoyed - I’m here to help! snowHead

You’ll have a cracking time. Just go for it. Every run you do makes you a better skier, even the moguls! Pop up to the top of one, turn when you’re un-weighted with tips and tails out the snow, pressure down the backside to check speed. Feel the burn in your legs and enjoy! Puzzled
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@Boofont, glad you had a good final day!
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Hi @Boofont, going there next week and really enjoyed your messages it was a pleasure to read you, have a good trip back. Cool
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@calinca, I’m sure you’ll have a great time. And thank you, enjoyed writing them. Hope to hear how you get on!

Ps - tap/click a name to tag them. Very Happy
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