The outlook is fairly mild. Ensembles near to Bansko.
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Here are some more ensembles.
In the northern Alps and especially in the west there will be snow. There will be rain. And quite possibly more of the same around 04/05 January (though the op run is a bit frothy at present.)
Skies will be heavily overcast accompanied by intensive precipitation in western and northern regions. The snowfall level is expected to ascend significantly during the course of the day, to 2300 m already at midday in western regions. In eastern regions the snowfall level will ascend to nearly 2000 m during the afternoon.
Fresh snow
The following amounts of snowfall are anticipated above approximately 2400 m:
northern flank of the Alps not including Prealps, Valais: 40 to 60 cm; from place to place as much as 80 cm of snowfall possible;
northern Ticino, Grisons: 15 to 30 cm; in northern Grisons as much as 40 cm;
central Ticino, Sotto Ceneri: less than 10 cm;
Jura region and Prealps: during the night, snowfall; during the daytime, rainfall up to summit level.
Temperature
Rising significantly: at midday at 2000 m, +2 °C in northern regions and -2 °C in southern regions.
Wind
Winds in the Prealps and at high altitudes in general will be blowing at strong to storm velocity from westerly to northwesterly directions.
Outlook through Monday, 01.01.2018
Sunday
During the early part of the night, the precipitation will come to an end and skies will clear. During the daytime it will become sunny in the mountains and quite mild. The wind from westerly directions will continue to be blowing at strong to storm velocity. The avalanche situation is expected to remain critical in western and northern regions. In southern regions the avalanche danger will incrementally diminish.“
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This is how WRF sees the temperatures rising tomorrow (0C isotherm). Obviously remember that the snow level is a bit below that (more so with heavy precipitation). Also in violent stormy conditions it can fluctuate a fair amount.
On other threads Chocksaway is suggesting a lower snowline and that may well be the case, but expect heavy rain, heavy snow and or a combination of both tomorrow in the west end of the northern Alps (and keep an eye out for a repeat Thursday).
Obviously tomorrow in the west at lower levels much of this will be falling as rain as the day goes on.
And from Thursday expect more...
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Well I'm currently sat in the eurotunnnel heading to meribel, hoping that the traffic around albertville isn't completely insane and that if anything is going to fall as rain, it will do so on my run into mottaret, then very quickly turn to snow again..!
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Accuweather live, what planet are they on?
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@KenX, why you would even look at a site like that when you have access to the expert level information on here is beyond me
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Zermatt has taken an overnight and continuing snow pounding. Webcams say it all. Village is covered and they do clear snow here quickly. Findlerhof webcam in Findeln shows rooftop snow as deep as I can remember seeing it.
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Raining now in St Martin de Belleville ☹️
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Just arriving in albertville. What are the roads up at St Martin like? Chains required?
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You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Midweek looks like further heavy snow, rain to 2000m at times and strong winds.
Roads are chaos indeed but heavy rain everywhere at the moment
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red 27 wrote:
@KenX, why you would even look at a site like that when you have access to the expert level information on here is beyond me
He only needs to look out of his window.
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Been raining in Morzine all day. In 40years of skiing, has to be one of the worst. 12" of wet snow last night meant turns were impossible. #neverabaddayonthehill
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@fuego, you clearly don’t ski Morzine very much
This is one of the best starts to the season in the Haute Savoie since 1998. One day of rain does not a season make!
Certainly going to be a chaotic week, some of the wind speeds look uber strong and really not too sure about what will happen to the snow pack (off piste) with tomorrows double digit temps.
Off piste was getting a tad heavy below 2,000 today circa 14:00
Have been invited to La Grave to ski with same guide mate I was meant to have been out with a few weeks back when God decided to spoil our party, could well be a similar scenario again tomorrow
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@Weathercam, it's been raining all day here in La Grave and no one quite knows up to what altitude as the lift was not running at all today. Tomorrow could be great, or could be dismal (I'm optimistic).
If the lift opens but the road do not, it could be lovely and quiet tomorrow morning.
@recz, he's doing the commission run at 08:30 so he'll let me know as to what's occurring.
And yes I heard it was raining where they live at 1,800m bizarre as at the same time of day and at 400m lower we were at -3.
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@Chadspurs40, yes the traffic is completely insane... regional emergency declared. Waiting here at Chambery still.
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@Chadspurs40, yes the traffic is completely insane... regional emergency declared. Waiting here at Chambery still.
I've just passed albertville, now at la bathie. Started queuing at albertville at 3pm! We're pushing on to mottaret but need to get chains on and everything. Although, if there are no checkpoints I'll risk it (4wd with winter tyres...)
Moutiers was closed for 4 hours due to avalanche clear up.
Apologies not a weather post..!
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Do you like rain? Do you like strong winds? Do you like heavy snow?
A series of violent weather systems will lash the Alps over the next week. The western end of the northern Alps will bare the brunt.
Temperatures will fluctuate between below and above average. Winds will be strong especially in the west.
It will be a test of character.
Some will pass, keeping spirits up and helping others. Strong and confident.
Some will moan and whine. Undermining each other and themselves.
A choice then.
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@recz, I’ve lost the battle! Now have to take bitches to Turin tomorrow
Will be in Edelweiss for NYE but looks like no skiing for me!
Guide friend reckons could be a classic LG day as no feker around, gutted or what
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@KenX, why you would even look at a site like that when you have access to the expert level information on here is beyond me
I don’t looK at AW (for obvious reasons ie the above), but LynnX swears by it.
Lot of swearing in our house
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Some will pass, keeping spirits up and helping others. Strong and confident.
Some will moan and whine. Undermining each other and themselves.
A choice then.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
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@Weathercam, I'll be sure to let you know how it goes
@nozawaonsen, I feel the next few days might test the old adage that there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad equipment...
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You know it makes sense.
Looks like the next week or so will contain a great deal of weather with a great deal of stuff falling out of the sky. I'm off for a quick few days in Les Gets on Wednesday. Being rather thankful for the shelter of the trees. I'm thinking the Tarentaise will only be for those of strong character. Vast amounts of precipitation, temps up and down like a bride's nightie, avalanche risk probably 5/5..
I'm sure we'll all have fun.
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
In terms of managing expectations I would anticipate further lift closures this Wednesday and Thursday in higher resorts in the northern Alps.
It looks like there is a powerful storm coming through which will be accompanied by very strong winds. Heavy snow above 1700-2000m, heavy rain below.
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Looks like Verbier down to avi risk 3 and everything opening today 🤞
Hope there’s some decent snow up top. Heavy rain to 2300m yesterday 😱
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Webcam on Riffleberg in Zermatt showing +11c. Surely this is wrong?
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@recz, so how was it ?
In fact I know as I had a phone call from my friend who did the commission run saying that it was the worst snow he'd skied in over ten years and LG was not opening, well at least first thing
And ironically they've come over here to ski hence he was asking me about conditions.
So as ever major difference either side of the col - yesterday here minus 3 and heavy snow - La Grave 2,200 and heavy rain
I'm just back from Turin so have a bundle of Brownie points which in the end was the best option.
And from the looks of things as I drove down from Claviere, Sauze D'Oulx and Sestrierre / Cesana etc missed out on this latest snow fall
Not too sure I can be arsed* to go up the hill and meet up as it's so busy and temps rising.
We're heading over to LG later on for NYE in the Edelweiss.
*Further Edit
Just had a nag with him and asked if he were in my shoes would he stay put and not bother with the hordes and the answer was yes.
Driving down from the Col 2,057m for 8kms to 1,710m he said it was raining heavy and my name was mud as earlier I told them it was still good snow - then below 1,710 the snow on the road for the last 6km to Monetier was crisp and fresh with no rain / blue sky and lower temps.
Hopefully not too many people still stuck en route...
At least a chance to take a breath in the northern Alps before the next storm arrives...
By next weekend it looks calmer to the north, but Sunday/Monday could see this hitting the southern side of the Alps bringing fresh snow although with a relatively high snow line. Not much support at present but worth keeping an eye out for.
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Yesterday started fairly cold (-3°C at ~900m) with light snowfall, but by 2pm it hard warmed up and started raining heavily to at least 1800m.
what are conditions like on piste after its rained and say been bashed / frozen overnight? I get at the time its horrible skiing in the actual rain but does it ruining on piste
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Russeh wrote:
what are conditions like on piste after its rained and say been bashed / frozen overnight? I get at the time its horrible skiing in the actual rain but does it ruining on piste
should be fine on piste.... depending on when it freezes and when they bash it!
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Russeh wrote:
what are conditions like on piste after its rained and say been bashed / frozen overnight? I get at the time its horrible skiing in the actual rain but does it ruining on piste
Yesterday it was warm and things were melting up to around 2400 m which wass about the rain snow line in the early evening until things started freezing again.
so this morning, in the 3vs anyway, it was wonderfully soft above about 2500-2600 metres and a bit like hard icy stuff below. However it all got better as the day went on and was a wonderful day. look like the rest of the week will be pants.
will prob drive home tomorrow and come back when the sun comes back.
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@emwmarine great, can't say i've done much skiing post rainy conditions but i'm familiar with the hard icy stuff, also the spring soft slushy type conditions which is just awful to ski in. Anyway i'm at La Plagne next week, looks like a bit more rain at lower levels this week. I'm sure it will be fine though.
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