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Could all this be the reason I get knackered really quickly or am I just overweight ?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Who ate all the pies........
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Adam Holt, Just the sleep (or lack of!) issues in Soldeu? Any other problems?
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Paul Mason, How are we, the great SnowHead public to decide if you are overweight? Facts, vital statistics please! It may be that you are just plainly unfit like many of us!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Helen Beaumont,
If bunged all year ask GP about using said spray all year (I assume it's Flixonase or its ilk) or allerg tests.
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Fruity, there may be other beneficial side effects as well. 
Helen Beaumont, slikedges, I'm not sure that a nasal spray or decongestant would help with the sinus irritation that occurs at alttitude, and it may even make nosebleeds worse.
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Kramer,
Steroidal might help, "decongestant" won't. But I'm not suggesting use on ski trip per se anyway. Either may make nosebleeds worse as alluded to further up thread. Probably largely effect of physical trauma on administration - not sure.
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I think that steroids can cause nosebleed independantly of the trauma of administration. I would stick to the old favourite of plenty of fluids, avoid dehydration.
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Sure. Local atrophy. Not sure if main reason tho, as often poor technique.
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Or surreptitious nose picking.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Is there another kind?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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slikedges, there's blatant nose picking, which often occurs in traffic jams.
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You know it makes sense.
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Kramer, but the perpetrators think they're being surreptitious (whilst actually their endeavours make repulsive yet compelling viewing to other road users)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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comprex, I've not used them myself, but friends who have used similar things tell me that they are very good when it gets very cold. I tend to just pull my neck gaiter up over my mouth.
Which also allows me a spot of surreptitious nose picking.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Which also allows me a spot of surreptitious nose picking
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Nothing wrong in topping up the immune system
I wonder.How much of altitude type symptoms may be suggestive,as in sea sickness.Have witnessed one or two odd occurrences involving people who were focused on how they were 'always ill'  During the day,out on the piste,having a ball,no problems.Evening,back in chalet,calmer(and lower)time to think,feeling moby dick.Now,is the fun bit masking the symptoms,or are the symptoms only appearing when the mind gives them a chance??Whats this to do with sea sickness  Well,its well known amongst us part time sea dogs that,if you give someone something to do they are rarely sick.Conversely,there are some who feel sick just stepping on a boat,simply because they 'expect' to be ill.I even knew a chap once who went to sea with his own bucket,and he was always ill(no great surprise)The mind can play very powerful tricks on us all.Obviously this would not apply in cases of severe physical symptoms,or those that assist it with dehydration etc.
Any 'doc' got an opinion on this?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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snowskisnow, the psychosomatic effect is extremely strong, however I think that having some "symptoms" when at alttitude is really quite common. I know a lot of people who have trouble sleeping at alttitude, and generally feel less than %100. As with all these things, when we are busy skiing, we tend to forget about our symptoms, however when we stop skiing and start to focus on our symptoms, they get worse. This is a normal reaction, which is why when you get a minor symptom the best thing that you can do is to take some sort of remedy, and then try and forget about it, usually it will go away, if it doesn't then it may well be worth further investigation.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Kramer wrote: |
[b]Helen Beaumont, slikedges, I'm not sure that a nasal spray or decongestant would help with the sinus irritation that occurs at alttitude, and it may even make nosebleeds worse. |
I'm fairly well aware of that which is why I don't use them. The saline nose drops help though, and the damp towels etc. You can buy them fairly cheaply (certainly less than £2) at any friendly local pharmacy that DOESN'T rhyme with SHOOTS.
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It is something to consider when going to the US rockies as their bases can be 9000ft plus.
Jet lag and altitude adjustment means the trip should be a 10 dayer, minimum IMO.
I am lucky I only get the lack of sleep but that is only apparent for me over 2000m.
But since the days of partying all night have long gone maybe a few light pills will help. Funnily enough I have never considered that before, thanks.
A fitness regime and a sleep regime and I should be skiing like a demon..
Best book something for Mar now...!!
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We stayed in Breckenridge (10,000 ft) a couple of years ago and had a humidifier in the room.
Definately helps with the dry throat, but did not make much difference to ability to sleep.
I usually suffer a loss of appetite for a couple of days, and lots of farting and burping. I tell everyone its just pressure equilisation, but have not managed to convince anyone of this yet! Anyone else get this or am I just weird? 
I find lots of water and a couple of aspirin at night help alot.
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Found this which might give some useful tips.
Lorraine Agass, I know what you mean, and I dont usually stay that high. Can remember feeling awful in Belle Plagne though. Crashing out at 9pm then waking at 1pm and couldn't sleep. Then too tired for skiing the next day.
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So. What happens to eyeball tissues? |
Retinal haemorrhage
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Bernard Condon, last time in Soldeu I suffered with appalling hhmmmm .... runs! looking back on it, it clearly was food poisoning. A lot of people seem to get some of these symptoms in Andorra perhaps due to poor hygiene standards with all the buffet food.
Dave J, the pressure equalisation .... ah yes indeed, know it well.
Lorraine Agass, me too - see above! very nearly invented a number of brown runs on several occassions! I also wonder why i inflict this upon myself!
I found that when I stayed away from the richer foods this time in Cervinia - (where it was 5 course every night!) such as going a bit easy on the dessert or laying off rich tomatoey sauces etc then I wasn't too bad. If I did stuff myself then not only could I not sleep at night but I also suffered from awful bloating and heartburnyness - terrific fun really - highly recommend it! This then at some point led on to fartyness and burpiness ... and then perhaps the next day runnyness!! ... you see its all linked 
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Adam Holt, On a need to know basis - do we really need to know???!!!
Seriously though, the piece I posted on Page 1 of this topic re 'Snow Organisms' is valid. I was amused when I heard of it first, but I believe it now. People are careless when skiing - opening boot clasps, handling skis, etc then straight into a restaurant/bar and then eating is the one major cause of 'Bug Transfer'. It can be prevented!!!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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comprex,
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So. What happens to eyeball tissues?
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Don't know exactly. I know that dry air and UV exposure are issues but the former is only an irritation to most, and the latter is prevented by wearing decent shades (essential to avoid serious damage). Retinal haemorrhage isn't something I'd expect at recreational skier altitudes (<4000m). Why do you ask?
snowskisnow,
I agree with Kramer, mild non-specific symptoms are made worse by psycho-emotional overlay. Of course there is little evidence of an association between neurotic personality and true motion sickness, much less true altitude sickness.
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slikedges, I ask because RK and Lasik-correction has been popular among my friends (one of whom had a spontaneous retinal separation this week, and another has chronic eye dryness).
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You know it makes sense.
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comprex,
I remember hearing something about a couple of climbers who'd had Lasik and developed retinal haemorrhages - can't remember where I came across it. But of course one of the complications of Lasik (at sea-level too) is retinal haemorrhage.
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