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Jungfrau Ski region pt. 2

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Satchboogie wrote:
Conditions are pretty grim right now. I was there this past week and it was rain below about 2500m which continued to ruin everything below Schilthorn. Icy/hard early and slush by late morning even near the tops of Mannlichen/Lauberhorn. Even the bottom half of the Rigglie/Birg area was crunchy Thursday after the snow. There were a bunch fresh powder lines to grab off Schilthorn/Birg/Kandahar though.

The only valley run left open now is the blue from Eigergletscher to Grund, but it's no longer possible to ski from Grund to Terminal. The red piste to terminal is completely gone under Holenstien and the red/blue run from First to the bus stop bar is also gone/closed, so you have to unload down from Bort. It's horrible how much snow has melted from when I was there in mid February. At least the views are still amazing when it's clear (Jungfrau region is one of my favorites in the Alps).
Rather over the top skiing above 1700metre is very good and ample snow depth
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We were up earlier and it's building up nicely at Eigergletscher @Jill t,
Temp was around -2 and falling steadily. Snowing below Brandegg as we left Grindy.
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Well that's it for 2024, my 90 days are running out. What a lovely morning to finish.
The thermometer in Lauterbrunnen reading 8.8 did not look promising but we headed to Kleine Scheidegg. Snowfall just above Allmend was a nice surprise. When the train is held up short of KS station for snow clearing purposes things are really looking interesting.
A long coffee meeting at the rendezvous, the bahnhof then out to play! I wish my IT skills were better as I have a delightful photograph of a piste basher on the railway station! (I don't know how to upload pics) The staff simply could not shift the volume of snow building up on the station.
In spite of fairly high wind speeds the snow was light enough to be very enjoyable. In places we skied more than 20cms.....on piste. We had the odd glimmer of sun and good definition to ski some of our favourite off-piste pitches.
A lovely way to wind up what has been a frustrating season where snow and weather has been concerned.
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@Rogerdodger, Have a safe trip home.
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Nice skiing at Kleine Scheidegg this morning. Pistes were soft but not slushy, visibility just about ok (the Sahara sand helps). Very few people skiing, most pistes were deserted.



Warm weather forecast for the weekend.
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Just viewed a few lovely movie clips of friends up on Lauberhorn. Deep , untracked powder and very few people up there skiing it.
April always delivers......
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@Rogerdodger,

Snow all the way down to the valley floor.

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Amazing how much snow fell in April. Best month of this season Laughing Laughing
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Another new train arrived yesterday for the Grütschalp to Mürren railway.



The new wagons will enter service this summer (photo Bernerzeitung).
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@telford_mike, an impressive logistical exercise getting the new carriages up to Grütschalp!
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And it's goodbye to the old BLM carriages: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/vHNX5cMTcgSqVykV/
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Lauterbrunnen considers tourist charge to combat too many tourists
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I was there this February, the village of Lauterbrunnen felt cheap (not the restaurants and shop prices!) and catering for hordes of tourists on buses.
Huge contrast to Grindelwald, on the other side of the mountains.
The more you step away from the asphalt, the prettier it gets. Access to the waterfalls is closed in winter time natürlich due to the risk of stone falling
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Fallboden lift to be replaced, new lift open for season 2026/27.

First gondola to be replaced. 3 options are being considered for the base station location:

- keep it close to the existing valley station,
- build a new base station next to the railway station,
- expand the V-bahn terminal at Grund and build it there.

https://www.plattformj.ch/artikel/221140/
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Thanks for that @telford_mike, some interesting ideas. I have to confess that I am amazed that a replacement Fallboden is under consideration. If a lift is built let's hope that the new top station is high side of the railway line to eradicate the rope tow and "skate" through the tunnel.
The Firstbahn ideas are simply fascinating but the planning may be more complex than that of Eiger express.
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...but still no replacement for the Tschuggen Tbar?
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Solar farm planned for the Schiltgrat area!

Due to the federal government's regulation to increase the production of renewable energy, the planning of such a plant does not require its own land use plan. However, both the Schilt-Busen mountain community as the landowner and the local community must agree to the project. In Lauterbrunnen, the local council has the authority to decide whether to accept the project. There is a 30-day referendum period.

The necessary votes have been cast for the referendum. Voters will now decide on the municipality's approval at the municipal assembly on June 17, 2024.

If the decision is positive, the initiators can continue to push forward with the project development in the Schilt area and submit the building application in June 2024. Ten percent of the plant is to be commissioned by the end of 2025. Full operation is then to begin by 2030 at the latest.

https://www.schiltsolar.ch/de/projekt/index.php
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@Chris Brookes, lots of vociferous local support, but it’ll be interesting to see how the silent burgers vote:

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New webcam for Wengen - https://wengen-tourismus.roundshot.com/talstation/#/
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Chris Brookes wrote:
Solar farm planned for the Schiltgrat area!

Due to the federal government's regulation to increase the production of renewable energy, the planning of such a plant does not require its own land use plan. However, both the Schilt-Busen mountain community as the landowner and the local community must agree to the project. In Lauterbrunnen, the local council has the authority to decide whether to accept the project. There is a 30-day referendum period.

The necessary votes have been cast for the referendum. Voters will now decide on the municipality's approval at the municipal assembly on June 17, 2024.

If the decision is positive, the initiators can continue to push forward with the project development in the Schilt area and submit the building application in June 2024. Ten percent of the plant is to be commissioned by the end of 2025. Full operation is then to begin by 2030 at the latest.

https://www.schiltsolar.ch/de/projekt/index.php


Proposal rejected by the community.

https://www.bernerzeitung.ch/lauterbrunnen-sagt-nein-ein-weiteres-solarprojekt-ist-weg-788426623408
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@telford_mike, interesting. Swiss democracy operating at the local level. Madeye-Smiley
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Hello,

My wife and I are travelling to the Jungfrau region next year and we would like to do some sledging, so we are hoping to plan the trip for peak snow conditions. We have booked the week of January 11th-18th, are all of the runs including the valley runs to the villages typically open during this time? Is this generally when the best snow conditions occur?

Also, how much snow depth is typically required for tobogganing runs to be open? I've been referencing this website for historical snow depths over the last several years but not quite sure how to put it in context: https://skiweather.eu/snowdata/grindelwald/426#spytop

Lastly, I've also been referencing this website for historic snowfall per week: https://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Grindelwald/history This shows week 2 of January having the most snowfall of the year for the bottom of the mountain in Grindelwald, so I was thinking this week could be best for the valley runs to be open. Is this the proper understanding?

Thanks!
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Mid January will be great for conditions.
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Rogerdodger wrote:
Mid January will be great for conditions.


Thanks! We actually just switched to the week of January 24th-February 2nd, as this seems a little safer of a bet.
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This summer, Schilthornbahn AG will expand the Winteregg chairlift with 17 additional canopy chairs (total of 66 chairs, travelling time of 5 minutes). The delivery capacity is increased from 1200 to 1600 per hour.
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We now have the option to choose either Jan 18th - Jan 26th or Jan 25th - Feb 2nd. Is one of these typically better for snow cover, including on the valley runs?
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Jan 25- 2nd Feb
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Cool, we'll book for then, thanks. We're staying half of our trip in Gimmelwald/Mürren, I would imagine that area is typically pretty blanketed in snow that week? Of course I know it's impossible to predict for sure in any given year.
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cb97 wrote:
Cool, we'll book for then, thanks. We're staying half of our trip in Gimmelwald/Mürren, I would imagine that area is typically pretty blanketed in snow that week? Of course I know it's impossible to predict for sure in any given year.


As you said it is impossible to predict but staying in Murren/Gimmelwald will give you your best chance.
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Chris Brookes wrote:
Jan 25- 2nd Feb


One more question, would this time period/last week of January generally be considered as having the best chances for peak snow conditions and snow coverage, particularly in the valleys? Or is there another week or time period you would recommend?

We've been running into alot of conflicting information on when the odds are best for peak snow. Thanks!
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@cb97, It’s impossible to say from one year to the next to be honest. Here is Wengen (1275 metres) on 20th January this year. Lots of snow.



But here is a January 27th view down to the valley down at 800 metres.



These days, you just never know.
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@telford mike That is pretty crazy. The webcams from this past year do look completely different than any other year- looks like hardly any snow in February at all.

Thank you all for the input!
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I think we should have a full Inferno in Jan 2025.
This means snow and more importantly low temperatures to provide the period for track preparation and race weekend.
Let us hope so!
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@Rogerdodger, wouldn’t that be nice Very Happy
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I must correct my earlier post. In 2025 it will not be possible to have a full Inferno regardless of snow conditions.
Schilthorn will not be accessible with the closure of the cable car. One assumes the race will start from Birg or the top of Engetal.
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I must correct my earlier post. In 2025 it will not be possible to have a full Inferno regardless of snow conditions.
Schilthorn will not be accessible with the closure of the cable car. One assumes the race will start from Birg or the top of Engetal.


The start will be from Seewlifuren at the beginning of the Engetal.
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Parts of the popular Swiss tourist resort, Brienz, remain closed off following a landslide earlier this month. Road and rail links continue to be disrupted by an unusually large mass of rock and debris that fell on the town.

The cantonal road through Brienz will remain closed until at least Monday. Replacement buses are available. Brienz West station will not be served.
The railway line between Meiringen and Interlaken Ost, canton Bern, will remain closed until at least September 29. Replacement buses will serve all stations and stops, with the exception of Brienz West, from August 24.

Around 1.5 kilometres of Brienz’s railway infrastructure was completely destroyed. Electrical, safety and cable installations were also affected. Clearance work along the Zentralbahn route is continuing.
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The cabins of the first Schilthornbahn20XX section between Stechelberg and Mürren are now hanging on the cables.
This cable car between Stechelberg and Mürren will be the world’s steepest commuter car ever put into operation, with an impressive (maximum) ascent of 159.4% (or if you want that in degrees that's 57.9º). The first section opens to the public on 13th December 2024.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/JkhGavWyS6pY93M9/
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The cabins of the first Schilthornbahn20XX section between Stechelberg and Mürren are now hanging on the cables.
This cable car between Stechelberg and Mürren will be the world’s steepest commuter car ever put into operation, with an impressive (maximum) ascent of 159.4% (or if you want that in degrees that's 57.9º). The first section opens to the public on 13th December 2024.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/JkhGavWyS6pY93M9/



both cabins are been tested now.
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