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St Anton situation (Winter Resumed)

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Heading out to St Anton on Sunday... forecast appears to be some precipitation over the first few days. But will it fall as snow lower down ??

(temperatures still seem a little high during the day/afternoon ?)
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Does look as though it may fall as sleet or even rain down at resort level which will be fun if it freezes overnight ... Twisted Evil
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The Lech village webcam (1400m) appeared to be showing rain and sleet this afternoon (Sun).
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When i left yesterday evening the temepature had dropped quite some degrees & it was dumping quite nicely.

Last week a well know local St Anton ski guide was killed in An Avalanche (Stuben > Langen ).

The two swedes killed in a sperate incident were skiing Rendl,s North Face. Yesterday the fracture & slide clearly be seen.
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It snowed yesterday. About 5cm at Mooserkreuz where I live.

It then stopped (boo).

But then started again this morning (hurrah!)
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The guy killed last week was from St Anton though lived in Bludenz.

He was skiing with three others, one of which was a friend of a friend of mine.

My friend was also caught in the slide, finishing with his torso out of the snow. He (only) suffered a broken femur and shattered knee.


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B00thy wrote:
The guy killed last week was ******. He was from St Anton though lived in Bludenz.

He was skiing with ***** from the Himmelhof, and two others, one of which was a friend of a friend of mine, ****.

**** was also caught in the slide, finishing with his torso out of the snow. He (only) suffered a broken femur and shattered knee.


I know who it was I just didnt want to put his name on here.


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May he RIP.
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stanton wrote:
B00thy wrote:
The guy killed last week was from St Anton though lived in Bludenz.

He was skiing with Sebastian from the Himmelhof, and two others, one of which was a friend of a friend of mine, Dirk.

Dirk was also caught in the slide, finishing with his torso out of the snow. He (only) suffered a broken femur and shattered knee.


I know who it was I just didnt want to put his name on here.
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stanton, I have removed his name ..
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Seems strange to revert the thread back to the snow in view of the obvious tragedy above especially when the individual is known to snowHead . I was tempted to start a fresh thread.

St anton website reports 50 cm fresh since yesterday and snow/ precipitation forecast every day until Saturday. 11 sleeps to go Very Happy
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Well with all this new snow and these warnings http://www.lawine.at/tirol/index.html

I expect a few more wooden boxes by the end of this coming weekend Sad
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I must be missing something but why delete the guide's(RIP) name.

Seen a report for 60cm fresh in Pettneu.
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http://www.vol.at/news/vorarlberg/artikel/st-anton-skifahrer-starb-unter-lawine/cn/news-20070227-12524100

Yet another avalanche death on Rendl - a 32 year old finish male skier this time. I've never been to St Anton - is the Rendl area clearly marked as being high avalanche risk?
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Maybe I spoke to soon Sad

Its dangerous anywhere in the Mountains, remember this first.

Today the whole Arlberg Region is Level 3 Skullie Skullie

These guys were equipped & obviosuly take risks & one has paid for it. The sheer force of the slide was to much buried 2 metres under.


Rendl is know for its Lift Served Off Piste & does not get tracked out as quick. It is not controlled Off-Piste (only above the town to stop big slides coming down)

http://tirol.orf.at/stories/174881/

There was a huge group of Finns arrived in last Saturday.
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DB, I deleted his name because stanton preferred his name was not posted. I respect that.

From what I could tell the death yesterday took place in almost the same place as the slide which killed the swedish guys.

Back to the snow. Today it rained. It was terrible. Hoping for a temperature drop and some more snow ....
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B00thy wrote:
DB, I deleted his name because stanton preferred his name was not posted. I respect that.....


The question was more aimed at Stanton. There might even be people here who have skied with that particular guide and want to pay their respects.

PS the link above (in german) does say it happened at the same place.
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It doesnt matter now as his name is still in this thread.

Lets move on...
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Increasing Avalanche danger througout the day

http://www.lawine.at/tirol/index.html
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Snowing hard at the moment. Avalanche rating 4
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Weather sites are reporting 270cm snow depth for St Anton (on the upper slopes) - thats over 60cm more than yesterday Shocked
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DB wrote:
Weather sites are reporting 270cm snow depth for St Anton (on the upper slopes) - thats over 60cm more than yesterday Shocked


The St anton site say 230cm at the top with 30cm of snow since measured yesterday, but great to hear still snowing hard. could do with the temperatures keeping low as the forecast suggests rising temperatures over the weekend and some more drizzle lower down Sad

8 sleeps to go Very Happy
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Looks like Bergfex can't add up, they also say 30cm fresh but have increased the total amount of snow from 205cm to 270cm. rolling eyes

http://www.bergfex.com/stanton-stchristoph/schneebericht/
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They add up even worse on this one!

http://www.bergfex.com/hochjoch/schneebericht/
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Looks like the bergfex staff were apres skiing last night Wink
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Sounds like St Anton is very dangerous at the moment (Level 4 avi warning)

Here's todays report from Graham at Piste to Powder in St Anton .....

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4/3/2007 - A definite improvement on yesterday. The sun shone after a clear night slightly froze the sodden snow layers. Avalanche grade was a high 4 which subsequently has closed most of the mountain. I skied with my group up on the Galzig but conditions were already warm by 9.30 and the risk being extremely high I cancelled due to safety after 1 hour on the mountain. The conditions will stabilize this week, so we're keeping our fingers crossed for good off piste this coming week.


http://www.pistetopowder.com/
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However, there was superb piste skiing yesterday morning under sunny, blue skies. Today is a mixture of sun and clouds.
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Yes yesterday was superb compared to Saturday. I have not gotten that wet in a long time.

They opened lower Matun which surprised me anyway, I had earlier chatted with a guy from Lawine Commisie and he assured me it was stable & OK so I was one of the first down Very Happy Very Happy First decent DEEP Powder in Matun this season Very Happy Very Happy . I looked back & there were about 2000 people coming down behind me. Typical St Anton tracked out in 10mins Smile Smile Backside was also good.

Avalanche risk was high in Non Controlled (4)areas so passed on Rendl etc.

It was so warm yesterday afternoon, relaxing having a couple of beers just didnt want to come back to the office Sad Oh well there allways next weekend Very Happy


NOTE.

For the first time the Mooserwirt is closing one week earlier this season 24 or 25th April. Most other places on the slopes close also . The KK & Taps close Easter Weekend but may even close before then. i,e end of March.
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B00thy wrote:

From what I could tell the death yesterday took place in almost the same place as the slide which killed the swedish guys.



Yes it was in almost the exact same place. He (32) was skiing with his Wife & young child , they were not in the slide but had to be treated for severe shock.
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Like the look of the weather forecast with temperatures falling and a couple of snow days forecast this week. what's the outlook for next week? snowHead
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dan100, More snow I believe (unless the temperatures mean it falls as rain)
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B00thy wrote:
dan100, More snow I believe (unless the temperatures mean it falls as rain)


Thanks. I like the look of sunday a day's sunshine after snow on saturday for the first day of our trip. Just right to get our ski legs back Very Happy
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Staying in Lech but went to St Anton today - more of a social visit as very poor visibility and wet snow everywhere so a long and liquid lunch at the Hospitz Alm plus a visit to their world famous wine cellar. Forecast for tomorrow appalling but anything can happen in the mountains being an optimist!
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Staying in Lech but went to St Anton today - more of a social visit as very poor visibility and wet snow everywhere so a long and liquid lunch at the Hospitz Alm plus a visit to their world famous wine cellar. Forecast for tomorrow appalling but anything can happen in the mountains being an optimist!


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Stanton,

There seems to have been alot of deaths this year in St Anton, maybe the tourist board need to make the information/advice on dangerous areas and dangerous skiing times more clear ... like on the ski maps?
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Nah

Theres allways a few deaths a year its the nature of the sport. tourist office doesnt want to get involved with that kind of info, thats putting out bad messages Very Happy

There are plenty of warnings in resort a the lifts. People take risks. Snowpak makeup changes every second & is unpredictable regardless of how much science is available .

There are fatalities all over Austria not just St Anton but when you consider the numbers skiing,snowboarding its tiny .

Here are the last published stats 2004

http://www.alpinesicherheit.at/index.php?menuid=119
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Stanton.

I going out to S A. a week on Saturday. I'll be skiing with my wife and don't wish to annoy her too much on the first day.

My plan therefore, depending on the weather, is to ski Rendl on the Sunday and then go over to lech/Zurs on day two before trying the big stuff on the Tuesday.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan to ease ourselves into the place ?
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I personally am not a great fan of Rendl, except for off-piste with a guide. How about going up the new space-age Galzig gondola, few gentle runs and then down to the Hospitz Alm at St Christoph for lunch. Try and get them to show you the wine cellar, one of the best in Europe. I was there last week. You can always get the ski bus home. Make sure you do the White Circle at Zurs/Lech and if you want a challenge as the week progresses try ski weg 37 from the top of the Rufikopf, steep but satisfying. The new Frozen icebar at Oberlech is worth a visit.
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Its allways best to Ski Rendl on Sunday as everyone is new in town & doenst know about that side of the resort so basically you can ski empty slopes on Rendl allday.


Yes best to go to Lech & Zurs early as most people save that up for late in the week.

Re.Hospiz Alm Wine Keller . It is not a "given" that they wil show you around. It ofetn depends what mood there in & if your spending money in the establishement. It also helps if you buy a bottle of wine !

If your going to Lech & doing the http://www.derweissering.at/ At the end a good port of call In Oberlech is there other Hotel (Goldernerberg) very old with another fine wine keller Very Happy

http://www.hospiz.com/content/altergoldenerberg/weinkeller.asp
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