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The Arlberg Snow Report 2014/2015 (Folks that a Wrap 2014/15 season)

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meteoexploration is more optimistic for tomorrow in St Anton (17 cm) and also meteoblue. From wednesday 17th onwards it looks like more snow, but that is too far away.

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Thursday's Snow

Yes, it will snow tomorrow but this will be mainly on the Western Ridges, Stuben , Ulmer Hutte Alpe Rauz, Lech Zurs The precipitation is not expected to amount to very much ( 5-15 mm!!!)

Hopefully we will get some tail dust in St Anton.

The Hairdryer (Fohn) from the south will be turned on again for Opening Day (Friday)
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What weather service do you all find most reliable?
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@Redwine

Old local Farmers here in the Stanzertal
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@Redwine, Try these:


http://youtube.com/v/G0y1QZtoDK4


http://youtube.com/v/VszuM_cGLeI

He is really a local weather prophet. Smile
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DB wrote:
... and the next oasis in the desert appears on the horizon.

http://www.bergfex.com/stanton-stchristoph/wetter/berg/

..... and whoosh, it's gone again. 😏
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Folks. We got light snow here upstairs.

Unfotunately this special area of the Western Austrian Alps (Arlberg Axis)
where the the southern fohn, westerly storms & north eastern cold fronts clash
is not playing a fair game Shocked rolling eyes

It doesnt look like any major snow will be here before Xmas week if anything the
Hairdryer (fohn) which comes bavk tomorrow will stay for a few days.

Snowmaking will be a challenge on the valley runs which at tbe moment are not skiable.
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@stanton, PowderGuide are still fairly optimistic for middle/late next week (and they're normally prety accurate for these parts, being based in IBK).
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Wow this is getting a bit depressing, i notice on the webcams the snow cannons arent even on today and the green patches are returning. Does anyone know how much terrian is likely to be available for the official opening tomorrow?
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Yes, depressing. I suppose that if the Fohn is expected, they are likely wasting their time with cannons down the valley. Hopefully a real (and permanent) cold patch arrives soon (by mid next-week when my holiday starts would be nice.)
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@benburton83,

Not much.

Read my post above on prvious page.

Basically Osthang only

Up & down access via Galzibahn or St Christophbahn
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Opening Day Status from Lift company.

Go to "Start"

http://www.abbag.com/en/winter/
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@stanton, crumbs so less than half a dozen runs to ski?
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This might be good time to book next December's trip. Reckon any of the swanky hotels would be inclined to offer discounts now?
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peanuthead wrote:
This might be good time to book next December's trip. Reckon any of the swanky hotels would be inclined to offer discounts now?


Possibly. Personally, I'll never book in advance again for a trip this early in the season.
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Is Stuben opening as it normally gets a good dose of snow....and looks fairly white on the webcams!
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@kitenski, considering what's open and opening tomorrow over this way I'd be amazed if Stuben couldn't open at least some terrain.
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boris360 wrote:
peanuthead wrote:
This might be good time to book next December's trip. Reckon any of the swanky hotels would be inclined to offer discounts now?


Possibly. Personally, I'll never book in advance again for a trip this early in the season.


+ 1. I love going away skiing over Christmas but alas it will be many years before I will go this early again.
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Is Stuben opening as it normally gets a good dose of snow....and looks fairly white on the webcams!
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Nothing open in Stuben Friday according to new left company release.

They will release another one im sure for Saturday & Sunday.

It may look white but the cover is not enough to drive the groomers over or ski.yet.
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Lift Company News Release Thursday 11th Dec.

No change from last one.except German version says St Christopbahn is used for up & down
Access so Run 8 to St Christoph & T-bar lifts in St Christoph closed..

http://www.skiarlberg.at/arl/east/en/winter/w-skigebiet/7276e01433c0db613ca176ff16054e32
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@2waterford,

Xmas is another 2 weeks. One major dump can change things
overnight.

Pray4Snow
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I know it's a generally useless exercise to compare, but any historical precedence for such a horrible start to the year having some decent bright spots later in the season? Just looking for some hope. I've had great seasons marginalized by warm weather then cold weather a few weeks before a trip, so I'm sure the opposite is true, witha poor start salvaged overnight. What's concerning is the ,poor base and it's ability to withstand warms spells throughout the year.
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Anyone heading to St.Anton today? Would be good to get a first hand report Little Angel . Heading down from Norway for Xmas, hopefully what has happened on the West Coast here in the last few days happens in the Alps sooner rather than later.
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@spruce moose, I'd be staying in Norway if you want snow. Just sayin'
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@Juddernaut, No big mountains here though, maybe I'll check some in on the plane to bring down. Heading to Roldal this afternoon, they've had about 70cm in the past 3 days snowHead
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@spruce moose, just had a look at Rodal on the webcam. God has not lit the sun yet, still dark! Freaky
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Nice day on the hill. Not many people at all. Just sliding up & down Osthang & tanzboden... thats It!

Think there be getting more open once they blown sufficient kunstschnee over the pistes.
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Nice to hear something vaguely positive after a lot of negativity recently. Obviously the lack of snow is pretty acute but sub-par skiing is better than none imho
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Redwine, quite a few of the late 1980s and early 90s winters had very poor starts. It was worse then because of the alck of snow making infrastructure.

It is sometimes said that skiing is really a 'Spring' sport. Certainly the snow cover is more reliable in April than it is in December, at least above 1800m.
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Hmmm ... We're heading out to St Anton on the 20th, not looking great Sad

The Galzig webcam looks ok: http://webtv.feratel.com/webtv/?cam=5691 but it'll be carnage come Christmas week if that's the only place open.

Anyone got any ideas for a Plan B? Is transport to another resort (Ischgl maybe????) feasible?
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@ecsleath, im in exactly the same boat been thinking of plan B as well. Does anyone know where the nearest glacier is? Is Solden an option looks like its within 1.5hrs drive?
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just seen forecast has changed yet again for some snow next week on Wednesday, obviously a long way off and will most probably disappear like previous forecasts but still something to be hopeful about
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Anyone thinking of going to another resort, bear in mind it will be double,triple carnage in those places & will no t be very nice experience.

Ischgl is already packed today !!!

I would try and reschedule your trip to later in the season.


The weather is uncertain for next week a mix of Fohn & possible Snow but its to difficult to predict with the current patterns.


Farmers say its the warmest its been as long as they can remember & they cannot see any change.
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Rescheduling is not an option unfortunately, all booked and paid for (Crystal).

Just have to make the most of it, take my walking boots maybe rolling eyes

I know the risks of course, just been ok in previous years. One year we went to La Plagne for Christmas, a week before there was nothing - the webcams showed brown fields. Then there was a huge dump a couple of days before we flew out and the skiing was great.

Should be able to get another trip in (France probably) later in the season.


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@stanton, yes me too, can't really change without costing me on hotel (50% paid for) and the flights, although will cost more to actually go and fulfil the trip. Happy to take the chance and as @ecsleath, says there are always further opportunities to go again later in season
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@ecsleath, @benburton83,

If you do not ask you do not get. I do not think
its an unreasonable request Or even
relocate to winter sun.

I personally would not buy a week lift pass right now
If they do not open more.

Ski resorts are expensive places to hangout in if your
not skiing.

Taking a loss is sometimes better than going
Being dissapointed & spending even more!!

Lets see what the Lift Company has open tomorrow & sunday
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Saturday 13th Lift Company Status.

Run 17 opens.

Read carefully. No skiing possible between Galzig & Ulmer Hutte.

To ski Run 17 you need to take bus or Car to Alpe Rauz Car Park

http://www.abbag.com/en/winter/
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stanton wrote:
@ecsleath, @benburton83,

If you do not ask you do not get. I do not think
its an unreasonable request Or even
relocate to winter sun.

I personally would not buy a week lift pass right now
If they do not open more.

Ski resorts are expensive places to hangout in if your
not skiing.

Taking a loss is sometimes better than going
Being dissapointed & spending even more!!

Lets see what the Lift Company has open tomorrow & sunday


Good post. Looking at posts in other threads, people based in the resorts either permanently or for the season can afford to be calm and phlegmatic about a few weeks of mild weather with little or no snow.
Likewise those with plenty of disposable income who can afford to travel at the drop of a hat.
However for those that are limited to one or two weeks due to time, family and/or cost constraints, the fact that "it is a lovely cold morning" or "similar happened in 200x but it bucketed down two weeks later" is of little or no comfort.

May be too late for those booked in next week or two but as you say, a travel company certainly can't help if you don't ask.
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Looks like a frustrating week ahead in StAnton. Heading out this Sun so way to late to think about refunds or exchanges !

My options are,

1, Go and make the best of what there is, maybe hire a bike or do some hiking ? Read a few books and drink beer ! Who knows just maybe our (prebooked) guide will know of north facing slopes we can hike/skin to and find snow , rolling eyes (can't blame me for optimism)

2, Put it down to experience and stay home, lot of money to waste but at least save on travel and airport parking, and I can still be working.

But then it would snow mid week and I would be kicking myself !

So I guess I'm off, with high hopes but low expectations Wink
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