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The All New 12/13 Weather Outlook Thread

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Looks good:)
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^ certainly does!


Cubanpete, 'chick-chicky-boom chick-chicky-boom chick-chicky-boom'!
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Haha, you got it Piccadilly:)
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So in summary Smile

Monday/Tues fohn, Weds onwards SNOW and ALOT colder
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nozawaonsen, and other gurus, if you look at 'snow-map' at top of p 14, which seems somehow live in that it updates itself, is it showing the total predicted snowfall btwn now and the date shown (currently 2 Dec) or is it predicting what is going to dump down on the day of 2 Dec itself?

By the way, a pause in snowfall has been ordered for 1 Dec for us to safely arrive in Tignes, then let the dumping re-commence snowHead
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DoubleBombardino, it's updating because I've been updating it. It's the accumulated weight of snow for the next 180 hours.
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Nozawaonsen I am clueless to when and we're the snow is predicted to fall,I'm of to avoriaz on the 15th dec,is there any snow going that way
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tman80, No doubt the great man will be along in due course with the definitive answer but I think the forecast is for a storm to come in mid-week next week and although there's considerable doubt about how much snow will make it over the main Alpine ridge and up to places like the PdeS, cold temps are sure to follow which will allow them to fire up the snow cannon(s) at least
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Thanks for the reply red 27
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The clouds were definitely gathering and looking a bit gloomy as I drove out of Val Thorens today...
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tman80, yes I would expect Avoriaz to get a reasonable amount during the coming week 30-40cms. And as red 27 says it currently looks like December will start cold so there's a good chance of further snowfall too.

The big snow looks like falling further south.



Here's SLF Sunday afternoon update.

Marked increase in avalanche danger especially in southern regions
http://www.slf.ch/lawineninfo/lawinenbulletin/nationale_lawinenbulletins/index_EN

"Between Monday morning and Tuesday evening above approximately 2200 m on the southern flank of the Alps excluding Münstertal and the Upper Valais sector of the Main Alpine Ridge 40 to 60 cm of snowfall is anticipated, from place to place as much as 80 cm of new fallen snow. In the remaining parts of the Main Alpine Ridge as well as in the Vaud and Fribourg Alps, and in the Upper Engadine, 20 to 40 cm of fresh fallen snow is expected, elsewhere less. The snowfall level will be at 1300 to 1800 m..."

"Outlook

On Wednesday, 28 November, continued heavy snowfall is anticipated in southern regions and the avalanche danger will increase still a bit further. On Thursday, 29 November in northern regions, snowfall down to low altitudes is expected. The avalanche danger will increase somewhat in northern regions."


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Thanks nozawaonsen,plus if it stays cold enough the cannons will be on
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nozawaonsen, that's showing a fair bit of snow in the UK, would you say that is for low lying ground?? If so best get my snow tyres on!!
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Snow forecast is suddenly showing much less snow. Is the weather teasing us again??
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Talking about that site on this thread is like comparing Jesus with Mystic Meg.
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red 27 wrote:
emwmarine wrote:
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Talking about that site on this thread is like comparing Jesus with Mystic Meg.


Laughing True though!
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emwmarine wrote:
Snow forecast is suddenly showing much less snow. Is the weather teasing us again??


Normal practice, predict loads, people keep looking then down grade amount once we have all bought tee shirts and clothes.

Just divide by 2 to make accurate-ish.

I do look at it every day mind.
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Oh look at the Pennines!
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Charts are looking pretty cold and snowy for high ground in the UK for sure (which I'm pleased about obviously) but I think the jury is still out on how marginal it is for lower ground, at least in terms of snow. Things are likely set for it to get colder for sure however with the predicted northern blocking we could be talking in terms of a December 2010 scenario down to low level but as ever it's not written in stone and won't be for a while yet.

At least the airports are a bit more prepared now so fingers crossed if you're flying out to the Alps Smile
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roga, I think it looks like some colder weather. I'm not convinced it really looks as cold as November/December 2010 for the UK at this stage. We'll see.

Here's some thoughts on the US winter from the NOAA.

http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/image/2012/updating-the-u-s-winter-outlook-for-2012-13
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Normal practice, predict loads

Laughing I love the way people ascribe personal characteristics (usually malevolent) to the snow-forecast algorithms. We all lose our cool, faced with forecasts at this time of year.
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nozawaonsen, fair point and we seem to have a wobble in the latest outputs anyway, apart from the UKMO which is still going for very cold.
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Snow pushing into the southern Alps from the west tonight and into tomorrow



Pushing further east and north by Thursday.

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Heavy snow above 2000m this morning here in the central Pyrenees, snow line falling rapidly so should see some good accumulations around 1600m by tonight and 1200m tomorrow.

Colder weather and snow is forecast for the rest of the week.
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looks like the mistral wind is blowing it further east for the biggest dump........Swiss resorts look to be the biggest benefactors.

but decent amounts for an early storm
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I have held off, but it's time for my annual post!!

Does this mean snow for the lesser known Piemonte resorts?

Mondole and Limone Piemonte areas?


Think you'll be OK. There's a weather warning from Civil Protection out for the Valle d'Aosta, and the Pila resort site seems to be forecasting more than a metre (actually 1.5m, but take these things with a pinch of salt)!

http://www.regione.vda.it/territorio/CentroFunzionale/Dati/Avviso_meteo.pdf


They'll no doubt be updating the avalanche bulletins for the area if we get that heavy a dump:

http://appweb.regione.vda.it/DBWeb/bollnivometeo/bollnivometeo.nsf/vista_i/$first?OpenDocument&L=_i

EDIT: I should add that you'll see from the first map that the snow is heavier in the south-east part of the region. Limone is a bit low at resort level but there's certainly a fair bit of rain and snow forecast for there too.
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roga, I think it looks like some colder weather. I'm not convinced it really looks as cold as November/December 2010 for the UK at this stage. We'll see.

Here's some thoughts on the US winter from the NOAA.

http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/image/2012/updating-the-u-s-winter-outlook-for-2012-13


Well, if there's no El Nino or La Nina this year it generally means avg snow falls for the PNW. So 450 - 500 inches of snow is not a bad year.

Looking at the Zermatt cams, and not much to see, they seem to have been plastered with some type of wet sticky substance...
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Looking at the Zermatt cams, and not much to see, they seem to have been plastered with some type of wet sticky substance...


Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Funnily enough I've just been looking at the Cervinia ones. Very similar: it's a strong relationship that one... Also a bit dark..
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The various ensemble runs veer from famine to feast for the Tarantaise resorts with each run

12z looking better after a depressingly dry 06z.

I know I shouldn't micro-manage the wigglies but I just can't help myself Embarassed
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I know we have to take Snow Forecast with barrels full of salt, but it's now forecasting about 70cms of snow for Val d'Isere in the next three days and plummeting temperatures. Minus 30 on Saturday night, really!? Shocked

Let's hope they're somewhere near right.
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so anyone out in the various resorts want to tell us if the white stuff has started falling yet, could be a stellar couple of days to set the season off.


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you can be sure that once it starts falling, the airwaves will be buzzing. No news means no snow worth shouting about. But reports probably on the appropriate resort threads.
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I saw a car driving into Annecy this morning (in the pouring rain) with snow on its roof and back windscreen.
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from a webcam watch looks like it's snowing in Tignes but not in Val D'Isere yet!
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kitenski, Is the VDI webcam still from close-of-play yesterday? I got caught out earlier looking at knee deep snow in one place, and grassy fields about 10km away.

It was just a webcam being lazy to update Smile
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Mr Piehole, nope 'cos it was dark on the webcam last night Smile could well be r**ning at Val D'Isere base???

http://www.valdisere.com/valdisere/en/val_d_isere/webcams/front_neige
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kitenski, that's well weird how it can differ just from valley to valley isn't it. The webcam at Manigod village (approx 900m) is really snowy this morning.

Frankly I'd expect Val d'Isere to outperform it!
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Who's spied the lowest snow in the Alps today then?

I'll start: Manigod, 950m.

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