Poster: A snowHead
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... how's this for out-of-touch? http://www.goodskiguide.com/gsg/index.php/the-news/445-split-skiers-and-boarders
One of the UK’s leading orthopaedic surgeons, Simon Moyes, says skiers and boarders should be on different slopes.
Simon Moyes, from London’s Wellington Hospital is concerned about the
increase in snowboarder and skiers colliding on the slopes causing more severe injuries than when they fall on their own.
Moyes says there are a number of reasons for this, including the increased interest in snowboarding and more snowboarders on the slopes. Snowboarders tend to have different fall lines to skiers which means there is an increased risk of collision. Also snowboarders often come off piste on to the slope when skiers are least expecting it.
“In an ideal world skiers and snowboarders should have different slopes. However, this is not something that will happen overnight - so my advice to skiers is to be aware of snowboarders and make sure you keep your distance,” he said.
Mr Moyes also backed the GSG’s safety campaign points about carving skis.
“Carving skis have also become more popular as they make turning easier. However, when you lose control with a carving ski, this happens at a later point of the fall and you can receive a whip-like injury to the knee, which is associated to a more severe injury, producing a higher incident of knee ligament injuries.
“My advice would be have your bindings properly set, don’t ski beyond your means, make sure you are fit and don’t ski when you are tired and avoid excess alcohol.”
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Bode Swiller, you are David Stavros Goldsmith in disguise and I claim my £1,000
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I think they're right. Ski magazines should also be segregated. I've always binned the Good Ski Guide
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I'd go one further and suggest that goofy and regular stances are assigned seperate sides of the board slopes, following a quite amusing crash between two idiots I saw last week.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Bode Swiller, oh dear.... someone whose name crops up a bit. I think he contributed to an article in fall line a year or so back?
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Personally I think this idea is crazy!
I am a boarder myself, however I hit the piste normally with large groups or both boarders and skiers each year, just be careful and be aware of the people around you. Segregation between the two diciplines is a bad idea and personally I can't ever see it happening, would be a shame if resorts did do this, and I would definately think twice before booking to such a place.
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Of course they won't do it, it's just some retard who can't think of anything worthwhile to write about and obviously doesn't actually ski or board
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“My advice would be have your bindings properly set, don’t ski beyond your means, make sure you are fit and don’t ski when you are tired and avoid excess alcohol.” |
If implemented verbatim, that would cut collisions at a stroke.
There'd be hardly anyone left to bump into each other.
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Boarders; always look over your shoulder before making heel turns, be aware that when stopping you only have one edge and if you lose it you're fecked, and don't stop/sit down in the middle of a piste and/or just beyond a lip in the piste.
Skiers; be aware of boarders making a heel turn and give them plenty of room, and don't assume you own the slopes.
easy
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Even easier:
Skiers - own the pistes
Boarders - own the hotels. Until the skiers come home.
Taxi!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Jon.L, there is an argument to be made that skiers do indeed own the piste, based on the fact that all ski resorts were founded and funded by skiers many years before boarding was even invented or became popular. Of course for about 10 years now boarders have been contributing significantly to the revenues of ski resorts, and are as entitled to skiers to use them as long as they buy a lift pass. My general answer to any ignorant boarder saying "we should have boarder only resorts" is "so go build one then".
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On a big mountain, it's sensible to divide it up:
- One run for skiers.
- One run for goofy boarders.
- One run for regular boarders.
- One run for near-sighted skiers.
- One run for long-sighted skiers.
- One run for bladers.
- One run for toboggans.
- One run for the over 75's.
- The rest of the mountain for anybody, riding anything, who doesn't want to put up with this ridiculous bull$hit, is aware of their surroundings and risks of snowsports, and would rather just have fun.
The first 8 runs would obviously only be 50-100 meters long and perfectly flat, anything else just wouldn't be safe.
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Isn't that the same website which did the 'Russians are a bunch of animals who don't know about saunas' rubbish? What a lot of tosh.
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You know it makes sense.
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I don't know which is worse, him spouting, the GSG printing it, or the GSG logo on their web site
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Lizzard, yes and some other gems that appear to be spoofs but actually are meant to be serious.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Anyway, isn't boarding a sport in terminal decline?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Ghost Dog, yep, it's been going downhill for years
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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we are on a slippery slope alright... sorry
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I suppose once you've bulldozed and groomed the mountain into indistinguishable motorway trails it wouldn't matter if you split it up. However on real mountains.....
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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stop the brutal grooming
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Stop any grooming
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I think they should be segregated by about 6 months.
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Comment of the season so far from boarder: "I hate skiers, they just stop really fast, and you've got no chance of stopping in time" - it was suggested that hitting someone downhill of you was pretty much always your own stupid fault, and if you couldn't leave enough space then perhaps you deserved everything you got. Comedy.
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No problems on the slopes with boarders so far this year, but we tend to ski quite defensively. The usual problems with the idiots that get off the lifts and sit straight down to sort themselves out, thereby blocking the dismount area for everyone else.
How about France, Austria, Switzerland, Italy and North America for skiers...and the snowboarders can have the rest?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I think I've felt as much threat fom skiers as I have boarders, guess there are daft people engaging in either sport. It is quite amazing though the amount of boarders that do sit down in the middle of the piste
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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How about France, Austria, Switzerland, Italy and North America for skiers...and the snowboarders can have the rest?
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Or not, because then we'd be missing immense terrain and amazing places....
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youspurs1 wrote: |
How about France, Austria, Switzerland, Italy and North America for skiers...and the snowboarders can have the rest? |
No, North America is ours. Pole-fondlers don't appreciate the powder enough - my favourite quote overheard was delivered in perfect 'allo 'allo style german in Canada "you know Heinrich, zeez conditions are TERRIBLE - zere is too much powder ezzerwewhere"
Tell you what, we'll have the sloped bits and you can have all the flat bits seeing you always laud your flat-land manouvering abilities over us poor tray-sliders...
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You know it makes sense.
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You can have North America (and keep the Americans), we'll take Japan for real pow.
I think that's a French accent you are writing by the way lol.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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clarky999, sorry, this keyboard has a cold...
Damn, forgot Japan. I suppose in true 'Risk' style you'll be occupying Australia and NewZealand too, and getting an extra 2 each turn...
At least we've got the UK - haha all the fridges are ours!
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Poster: A snowHead
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No you can have OZ and NZ, but we'll take South America!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Fine, then we're taking the Uruals and as many rusting Soviet-era heli's as we can get our hands on.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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clarky999, On your bike NZ is mine, all mine. But leave OZ for the snow blade team.
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First we'll take Manhattan,
Then we'll take Berlin...
Then we'll pop upstate after a bit of shopping and nip down to Schladming for the races.
Tell you what. Northern hemisphere for skis, southern for snowboards. Bladers can have the equator.
30.06
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Shotgun the Himalayas!
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Monium, that 'boarder' was evidently inexperienced and a prat. The reality is you simply need to be aware of all around (as you would be when driving a car) and be cogniscent of the different slope sliding styles.
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I nearly got caught out whne skiing in a party with a tame boarder.
Boarder turns left, no problem, I ski down a bit and boarder turns right. I realise that boarder can't actually see me from that angle, skid\stop.
Could we fit boarders with rear view mirrors ?
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Could we fit skiers with common sense ?
I come up behind a skier , and I'm generalyy cognoscenti he / shf can't see me and take appropriate precautions ( ie make extra space) ...
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I thought it was the uphill persons responsibility to avoid the downhill one whatever they,re riding on. If they can't do that then they're going too fast. No excuses.
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Richie_S, you sound proud of the fact that you pay attention to people down the hill from you. When you're driving a car are you equally proud of yourself for paying attention to traffic lights?
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