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The Arlberg snow report 2009/2010

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The forecasts at the mo do seem to be showing quite significant snowfall towards the end of the week snowHead snowHead snowHead I hope it's not too much that we can't get there! Very Happy
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Precipitation should pick up as we run into February, its normal winter behaviour. I expect we will get at at least two significant dumps in the coming weeks.

Meanwhile SNOW tomorrow Very Happy
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Snow Forecast is quite optimistic: http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/St-Anton/6day/mid - but then it usually is. Still, if this system come off, there will be plenty of fresh when I arrive on Friday week. Very Happy
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Definitely looks like some snow coming, whether it will be epic or a touch less... we'll see. Lots of off piste is currently chalky and grippy, good to ski on. Softer snow is also still out there.

Tuesday am: persistent, though very light, snow at moment. Visibility is rather poor.


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Danger level 2 on Wednesday, escalating danger on Thursday

http://lawine.tirol.gv.at/english/
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Excellent! Lots of it I hope by Sunday snowHead
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Looks like Lech got about 35 cms over the last couple of days, with some more due today/tomorrow snowHead snowHead The wigglies are looking good for next week as well

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red 27, but a nice bit of snow could be coming along on the 3rd snowHead snowHead
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yeah but the graph above only shows5-10cm (using the scale on the left) when is the BIG dump arriving.
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stevev, (scales on the right & don't forget it's accumulative) - but if it does happen it will be quite a dump on top of what they've already had the last few days and next few days. For example, snowforecast.com is currently predicting round about 40 cms then: http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Lech/6day/mid (of course, all to be taken not too literally....)
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Cathy, I meant the scale on the right rolling eyes

so why does it only say 5-10cm when snow-forecast says lots more. I never see big numbers on the GFS plots. Is it just localised
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stevev wrote:
so why does it only say 5-10cm when snow-forecast says lots more. I never see big numbers on the GFS plots. Is it just localised


Because *NOBODY* can accurately predict how much snow will fall on a given mountain for a given period.
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Like cathy, says it accumulates. The high point of the graph is between 5 to 10 but the period of snowfall on the 12z graph covers well over 24 hours, almost 48 whilst it builds up to that peak. Hence why the larger amount of snow. Snow forecast.com is I believe derived from the GFS- the hauptlauf I think but unlike the GFS gives a very specific numeric prediction. The GFS gives you a bit more of a flavour and context. According to that GFS run and several before there is a reasonable likelihood of a fairly big snowfall on 03rd Feb. As kitenski says though predicting things much more accurately - in cm for example- might pass the time, but... wink
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stevev, ignore snowforecast - they are fantasists
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A few cm 30-50 cms in drifts , nothing special , just dandruff for the tourists .

Next month(week) serious snow will come Happy
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they are fantasists

no, they are people who have a computer which applies formulae to computer model outputs...... and is as likely to under-predict snowfall, as over predict (indeed, before midnight we have already had more snow than they predicted for the entire night, and it's still chucking it down).

I don't know why people keep attributing these human attributes to a weather site whose key weakness is precisely that there are no actual people applying brainpower to the models' output. Given the extreme local nature of mountain weather it would be a mad business model to have actual meteorologists trying to produce forecasts for hundreds of ski resorts throughout the world. Then letting people have them for nothing. Shocked
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This from the Lech.at site today... (and they've had another 20cm overnight) Very Happy

Towards Sunday, the snow showers will abate, the weather will significantly improve. On Sunday, the clouds will increasingly be replaced by the sun. Despite that, the temperatures will remain absolutely wintry cold. The cold temperatures will probably intensify particularly on Sunday night, which will be mostly clear. In the course of Monday, new clouds will approach from north-west and cover the sun, on Monday night new snowfalls are expected, which may last longer on Tuesday and on Wednesday. So, larger amounts of new snow will probably approach earlier than expected.


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I posted this back on an earlier page.

You can get the actual snow depths & other data from the actual mountain weather stations located around the Arlberg (and the rest of Austria)

Stuben

http://www.vorarlberg.at/lawinenmessstellen/messstelle.asp?ort=albona

Zurs

http://www.vorarlberg.at/lawinenmessstellen/messstelle.asp?ort=zuers


Rendl 1950M

http://lawine.tirol.gv.at/schnee-und-lawineninfo/messstationen/r1-arlberg-ausserfern/rendl/

Ulmerhutte

http://lawine.tirol.gv.at/schnee-und-lawineninfo/messstationen/r1-arlberg-ausserfern/ulmerhuette/

Galzig (Osthang)

http://lawine.tirol.gv.at/schnee-und-lawineninfo/messstationen/r1-arlberg-ausserfern/galzig-osthangbahn-young/
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Just back from a week in Lech - skied St.Anton/Stuben/Zurs/Lech - snowed constantly for the past 3 days so lots of powder and pistes in great shape.
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erica2004, could you tell me, when staying in Lech and you buy an Arlberg pass, does that give you just one day in St A or as many as you like? snowHead
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Arlberg pass gives you access across the whole Arlberg ie Lech - Oberlech - Zürs - St. Anton - St. Christoph - Stuben - Klösterle/Sonnenkopf.
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stanton wrote:
A few cm 30-50 cms in drifts , nothing special , just dandruff for the tourists .


Oh really?


http://youtube.com/v/xBYBMZSQuDo

Filmed three days ago...there is snow if you look for it.
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horizon, care to share where that was taken?? Off to Stuben over Easter Smile
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stanton wrote:
A few cm 30-50 cms in drifts , nothing special , just dandruff for the tourists .


Oh really?


http://youtube.com/v/xBYBMZSQuDo

Filmed three days ago...there is snow if you look for it.



Like I said, Dandruff Very Happy
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stanton, I can't comment on your personal hygiene...
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Flying around the outer part of the Rendl.


http://youtube.com/v/Tvb-17AjoAw

Stuben FlexenPass


http://youtube.com/v/zW4-yRjANc0

Enjoy Very Happy
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lovely sunny morning today in Lech but bitterly cold at -21 and windy on top. Light went in afternoon with clouds coming in. Great day skiing though! (via SMS)
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cathy, hells bells, and I was wearing 5 layers in Courchevel! Glad you're having a nice time notwithstanding, and am most impressed with your mastery of technology. I glazed over reading the instructions... Embarassed

PS Everyone remained commendably sober the other night. Will have to try harder next time! wink
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Folks. We could be in for some significant snow over the whole weekend starting Thursday night Very Happy

Welcome To St Anton


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lummy! I see Lech depths are already up to 85/200. Will the flex pass stay open this weekend I wonder? Confused
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Fresh snow overnight meant some great skiing today, although quite windy midday. Starting to snow again now. (via SMS)
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stanton wrote:
Folks. We could be in for some significant snow over the whole weekend starting Thursday night Very Happy

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Sweet! 5 days till I arrive, hope it dumps all week.
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How's it looking? Snow reports suggest 15cm fell Tuesday and another 15 Wednesday....
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The big snow is not going to happen. To much "Fohn" (warms winds from the south) ! We will get some dandruff again maybe Saturday but not what we were promised . Sad
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stanton, I'll send out some Head 'n' Shoulders for you
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"Several avalanches were recorded Saturday in the Tyrol. A four person ski touring group was hit by an avalanche on Rendl above St. Anton am Arlberg in the direction Moostall. In the region there was considerable avalanche danger (level 3) on the five-part scale. A 35-year-old Norwegian was buried, but was rescued and resuscitated. She arrived by helicopter to hospital Zams. Her condition was critical."

Austrian Press Agency (http://www.apa.at/cms/site/news_item.html?channel=CH0071&doc=CMS1265471334958).
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11 deaths in last week in Austrian avalanches.

4 in Arlberg.

2 swedes
1 Norwegian Lady )as above but she died in hospital. (Hinter Rendl)
1 well known local ski guide with 40 yrs experience (Albona > Maroi)

Its not safe right now even though its posted 3 , folk take more risks.
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