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espri, Don't think so... Only went up on the train once and it took me 1/2 hour to get down to the lower mountain which was much better..

If there was lifts down to 300m it would have been a great day: see photo attached.....
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II, thanks for the information. Sounds (and looks) like fun!
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The snow was unbelievable. Visibility was crap though
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More frontal action on the radar tonight. This is the best we've had in early Feb since 2001. Very Happy
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Just wish there was a break in the snow. I'm sittiing at home unable to make it to Cairngorm due to the road conditions. I have just managed a nice 15km ski from Udny station to Ellon along the old Banf and Buchan railway, but its not the same as a day of powderskiing at cairngorm. Itsn not often taht there is a snorkel say in scotland, and looking at the amount of new snow on the webcams that looks like waht we've got.
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lovely flickr shots! - hoping to get up a week tomorrow - hope this weekend is great for those up there already but leave us some snow for next week!! Smile
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My god, the amount of snow up there looks incredible Shocked

I seriously wish I wasn't heading over to France next Saturday ... I genuinely would rather spend the week in Scotland with that amount of snow! Toofy Grin snowHead
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Been at Cairngorm yesterday and today and the amount of snow is just unbelievable, shame you could only see about 10ft in front of you. Still had a great day yesterday and half day today and when the clouds finally lift it will be amazing Smile
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Had a great day at cairngorm today, powder skiing all morning on the east wall of the lady and then a couple of runs down untracked slopes to the coire na ciste car park, lucky the bus was running to get back to the main station. Only drama was the que for the funicular, only averaged 1 run per hour! Still was well worth it and the west wall of coire na ciste remains in great condition, wish I could stay longer.
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anyone been out west? - we're booked to stay at Fort William from next Sun for a few days - what's it like there?
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Very good day with excellent snow conditions reported by my son who went to Glenshee yesterday. Most lifts were operating and queues not bad considering the weekend crowd. There has been light snow overnight here in the Borders. As prospects are good for the coming few days the wife, James and I are intending to go up to Glenshee tomorrow.
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boardiecouk, I was up at Nevis yesterday. The high runs off Summit, Warrens and the Goose are all deep and wide. Further down the fence lines are loaded but less cover away from them, so consequently narrower and more likely to get scraped. Surface conditions are a mixture of nice new soft stuff, underlying hardpack and some icy scraped bits.

Off piste, there are deposits of new windblown soft stuff blown over the old base of bulletproof hardpack. Back corries were closed due to avvy risk, but there's probably enough snow over there once it settles down.

Nevis absorbed the numbers well, no queueing of more than a few minutes except a 15 minute or so wait to get the gondola back down after 4pm. Warrens had no queues at all.
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Thanks Brian. Looking forward to the first visit to Scotland in 10 years of boarding!
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boardiecouk

Don't overlook Glencoe! Totally different to Nevis Range (let's just say a bit more basic, with creaking old lifts etc) but brilliant - great skiing/boarding among gullies etc. It's about 35 mins drive from Fort William.

Then there's Cairngorm, which is do-able in about an hour from Fort Bill. Another cracking area.

You'll be spoilt for choice - with the proviso that the weather plays ball.....!!
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yeah, cheers - we planned to base in Fort William and pick the resort each morning - hoping winterhighland.info is up to date!
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you'll generally need longer than an hour to get from Fort William to Cairngorm, particularly with current roads/temps
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CairnGorm is INSANE just now!! Shock Full and deep blanket cover, ride anywhere...

Spread the word... the people need to know.

Got 18 photos up here (over 2 pages):
http://www.highland-instinct.co.uk/gallery/cg/winter200809/09feb09/

One of the photos:
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firstracks, wow, stunning photographs. I love the final sunset one.
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Looks fantastic....are there (m)any hidden rocks around?
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Yes - hundreds. Everybody should probably stay at home worrying about them rather than coming to enjoy the fabulous snow! Very Happy
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firstracks, looks simply awesome - I'm sure I can't remember it looking as good as that anytime I went up in the 70s and 80s...
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lordjohn, I hope to hear you've been up yourself before too long. Very Happy

firstracks, great photos - looks as good as I've ever seen it. Very Happy
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What has happened to the lift on the right in the photo above (White Lady T-bar?)? Is it in use at all? It looks as though the cables are hanging off.
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espri, yes, the white lady T-Bar which was damaged about three years ago IIRC, was never repaired, apparently being surplus to requirements and management felt it wouldn't really have helped reduce queue sizes by repairing it. wink 'Managed decline', 'core lift policy' etc are other terms that have been bandied about. Apparently, snowsports are less popular now, visitor numbers are dropping and they needed to reduce capacity in-line with the reducing demand. A similar rationale was taken for the disbanding of the West Wall chair citing that in these days of global warming, it would never really be viable again as the loading level would most often be hundreds of feet below the snowline and that the other uplift was perfectly adequate. Twisted Evil Actually, now I come to think of it, half-term school holidays are upon us and the snowline is many hundreds of feet below the base of car parks. rolling eyes
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Thanks for the information, moffatross. Good to hear, though, that queuing is becoming a thing of the past on Scottish slopes (I can remember multi-line queues for that T-bar on Easter weekends). Or have I perhaps misunderstood? Seriously, I suppose that it is difficult for the lift company to make money in bad winters, so maybe they have to cut back somewhere.
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Check out this : - http://adventure.visitscotland.com/adventure-pass/offers/buy-one-get-one-half-price - handy if youre heading to Cairngorms or Nevis. Very Happy Very Happy


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espri, yes, I was partially kidding, at least about the queuing bit. wink Queues are as alive and well at this time of the season as they always were but by the beginning of March, then a wait of more than a couple of minutes is very much the exception. March, April and sometimes May tend to offer Scotland's most spectacular mountain snow cover as you know and because the numpties who think that it's only worth going when it gets dark by 5.00 have mostly forgotten about skiing and boarding for another year it leaves the rest of us to enjoy the mountains with full, soft cover, milder temperatures, sunshine and a drive home in daylight. Smile

I was also attempting a sardonic swipe at Cairngorm Mountain Limited's past policies which have left a chairlift to go to rot which should be zooming people up the mountain from the Coire Cas car park when the snow is as good as it is now and the White Lady T-Bar an alternative to queuing for the funicular mid station stop. Sad Anyway, I'm sneaking a day off to go to Glenshee tomorrow which alleges 18 lifts will be running tomorrow to serve its three valleys. snowHead I'll post some pix.
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moffatross, Wasn't another issue CML simply not having the money to repair the White Lady?... The fact they had to be bought out by HIE to have the place surfive at all (public instance if I understood it correctly) seems to illustrate the terrible financial situation of CML.
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easiski, so the wife, elder son and I went up to Glenshee yesterday; first time for me since mid70s. Classic conditions with part cloud cover. The wife and I were a little rusty but soon recovered a reasonable level of ability with concentration on arm lead. We estimated there were a couple of hundred cars. There were some hard snow/ice patches in places to catch the unwary with the long red run from Glas Maol a little challenging in parts. No queues and all lifts running except Butcharts and Tiger. One lady we spoke to had come over from Kingussie rather than go to the nearer Aviemore because of anticipated crowds. My wife was very impressed with Glenshee after being frightened by the more rugged Glencoe.

Glenshee is superb at the moment so lets hope the conditions hold up and there is more snow from time to time. moffatross, you should have a great day and look forward to pictures.
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Hello

I went to Scotland over the weekend. Did Nevis on Saturday, Cairngorm on Sunday, Nevis again on Monday and Glencoe on Tuesday.

The snow conditions were the equal of anything I've skiied in the Alps. There was no wind, maybe I was lucky.

I would never go to Cairngorm again on the weekend though. It simply could not handle the number of people who turned up. Took an hour to get up to the ski centre once parked since the main car park was full. At one button lift I had to wait 30 minutes to get on.

The blue pistes at Glencoe were bloody fantastic. A very underated place.

I bumped into II (Andrew) at Nevis on Monday.

Some photos:

Skiiing under the Quad chair at Nevis:


The Goose at Nevis:


Just to the right of the White Lady at Cairngorm. I skiied from the right and joined the piste. The snow is completely covering the fences in areas.


The White Lady again at Cairngorm.


This is Glencoe, pretty sure this is the Happy Valley blue run. Amazing piste.
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boardiecouk, how many days are you going for?
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Great pics, Bikeandsnow.

Conditions look topnotch.

I understand there has been skiing right down to the gondola bottom-station at Nevis Range in recent days.
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Bikeandsnow, nice one !

Whitegold, there were a few nutters doing this on Sunday (boarders). I wouldn't like to be the one repairing the base damage. wink
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I did all my base damage on an errant rock on 'flight' (the black down the side of Warren's T-bar). Skied to car park - OK to the fence but rocks all over just after. Walked about 100-150m into the trees & took a gentle forest trail all the way back to the car park. Minimal base damage, certainly considering the battering already meted out on the unpisted runs. Don't think there is anything I cannot repair myself. Like Bikeandsnow I went to Nevis on saturday & Cairngorm on sunday. Spent the day at CG in full queue avoidance mode. The DLP saved the day for me. Mainly used the funicular to the top because the queues for the M1 & the WWP, when it finally opened, were huge. Toss-up which of the WWC & WLT was more needed. The best lift was the bus. Had to ski out to the Ciste car park (deep snow there) because the WWP broke while I was in the queue. Bus then funicular was pretty good.

And that is Happy Valley at Glencoe BTW, did you ski all the (open) runs from the top? I assume the flypaper is shut since it avalanched on friday.

And yes winterhighland very useful via wap.

Photos:
http://picasaweb.google.com/neil2829/Nevis7thFeb2009#
http://picasaweb.google.com/neil2829/Cairngorm8thFeb2009#
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And that is Happy Valley at Glencoe BTW, did you ski all the (open) runs from the top? I assume the flypaper is shut since it avalanched on friday.


Only skiied the blues from the top that join onto a couple of reds. Did not do the reds or the flypaper on the far left of the piste map. Was really practising long turns and my shin was hurting anyway. Was just taking it easy trying to get the missus to start carving a bit.
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Bikeandsnow, plan is to head up on Sunday 15th with my bro and head back home on Weds afternoon - so we'd get 2-3 days on the snow, lovely pics btw!! Smile Can't wait.... hope the weather is kind to us!
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I would definitely visit Glencoe if I was you. It's on the way home from Fort William. If I had a choice of a days skiing / boarding this week, I'd rather do Glencoe than Cairngorm. If the plateau button is not running, don't worry, since you only use it once at the start. It was not running yesterday morning, it's only a walk less than 10 minutes to the first chair.

The drive to Cairngorm is stunning though. I've not seen anything like it before. I was travelling from Fort William to Aviemore for 46 miles before I saw a vehicle on my side of the road!

It will take you 90 minutes to get to Aviemore. Then allow 20 minutes to Cairngorm. Depends how bad that road is up to the ski centre. Personally, I'd do 2 days at Nevis and do Glencoe on your way home. Although you should check weather on Winterhighland first. If it's too windy, Glencoe might be a non starter, but I'm not sure because conditions were perfect there yesterday.
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moffatross, hope you have a great day tomorrow - looking forward to the report.

Great photos - thanks Bikeandsnow and what...snow (loved the Cairngorm sunsets).
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I am so jealous of those photos, was at cairngorm friday and saturday and the snow was amazing but I kept thinking how much more amazing it would be if I could see Smile
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Since others have added fine photos to this thread I thought I could provide one that I just happened across - not quite so current but for comparison, maybe Laughing It was taken at Cairngorm at Easter 1964 (plus or minus a year).

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