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is it too early for the "Omg no snow" thread?

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Stupid Boy!
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No snow ? We're all doooomed!
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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! Maplins have a tenner off these!

http://www.maplin.co.uk/snow-machine-226403

Simply strap one to the front of your skis or board and VOILA! instant personal powder day 6 metres in front of you.
Panic over.
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Folks, this is due to be a very dry year in Western Europe. i.e Very little rain/snow.

Same pattern emerging as 2007

Far Eastern Europe,Asia was forecast to be wet. We are seeing this now with snow in Eastern Turkey & Cyprus is likely to get snow today.

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https://afweather.afwa.af.mil/cgi-bin/model_looper.cgi?6,48,3,MEURSFCSNTT,.GIF,6,3,15
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stanton, Based upon a single year, I will remain optimistic.
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mfamily2 wrote:
stanton, Based upon a single year, I will remain optimistic.
me too!

Someone mentioned the la plagne webcam as an example and while everything is white, it only takes like 1cm of snow on the ground to do so!
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kioksor wrote:
mfamily2 wrote:
stanton, Based upon a single year, I will remain optimistic.
me too!

Someone mentioned the la plagne webcam as an example and while everything is white, it only takes like 1cm of snow on the ground to do so!


And that is the problem - the webcams are all green and brown! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! All we wanted was 1cm to make us feel better!
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Its depressing looking at the webcams for the Alps. We are on the cusp on December and not a flake in sight.......unless of course you are like me and have a 2nd trip booked for Andorra! (yes theres snow in Soldeu!)
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While it is all grass in Arabba village it is white higher up: http://www.igluski.com/italy/arabba-webcams_25615
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Its depressing looking at the webcams for the Alps. We are on the cusp on December and not a flake in sight.


Unless you're measuring your 'cusp' from the end of October, how can precisely mid-way through November be the 'cusp of December' Puzzled Plenty of time to fill the mountains with snow before the season usually starts ... unless of course your glass is also on the cusp of being precisely mid-way empty too. Toofy Grin
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I'm pretty sure the alps will be alright for snow this season. Even if there's below average, there's always going to be enough to ski on.

however, I do wonder (though still too early to be concerned) what the scottish winter will bring us. It's been unseasonably warm here for the past few weeks now, and all of the snow from a few weeks ago is totally gone. really hope something arrives soon and a base can begin to embed itself into the hills.
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While it is all grass in Arabba village it is white higher up: http://www.igluski.com/italy/arabba-webcams_25615


This shot makes me happy http://www.igluski.com/italy/arabba-webcams_25615
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It has 24 days to dump some serious snow, preferably in the VT part of 3V, or I shall cry quite a lot.

Mrs M.
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I was booked for Zermatt for new year 2008, and watching the webcams every day with a growing sense of dread thinking 'ah well, there'll be a few stretches of sheet ice on the glacier at least' and then on about December 2nd WALLOP. Everything went white, stayed white, and all but about 2 distant pointless drag lifts were open when we arrived.
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Also at least its cooling down and a few cannons seem to be starting up
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As I posted in another thread. Doing my bit for the environment and recycling posts.

I've just spent a very good day in Laax Switzerland.
The locals are working their balls off getting snow poles in place and road barriers up, If they don't know when it's going to snow who does?
I had a good walk up some pistes and yes they were green but they were hard with frost on then still at 4 in the afternoon. As you know it's the "permafrost" that keeps the snow by acting as a big fridge.

I am not worried at all.
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Already paid for accomodation and flights to La Rosiere, going 2nd week of Jan....I just hope there is enough time to start snowing buckets.

Dwarf Vader wrote:
I am not worried at all.

May the force(knowledge) be with you Very Happy
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the snowy one in arabba is 2 months old.
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the snowy one in arabba is 2 months old.
Oh, they have the same one on the main Arabba site - I didn't notice that. Damn.
Still, 2 months for them to get some.
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snowball, yeah I got a bit excited when I first saw it, then I noticed brilliant blue skies at portaveso and lots of green at alta baldia.
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Until this Indian summer ends it is not worth running the snow canons on slopes that take any sun or low level slopes. it was 18C at 900m on Sunday. The French "agriculture" forecast (separate system to Meteo France) says that the current weather is unlikely to break in the next 7 days but it will get a bit colder in the Northern Alps.

Maybe some snow before the end of next week.
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I'm starting to see precipitation coming into the apline areas on the models I use around the 19th/20th (southern French Alps and Piedmont) and for the whole of the northern Alps from the 23rd onwards. OK, it's only a hypothetical model at the moment. but for the last 3 weeks these models have been completely blue-free zones!

http://www.meteox.com/forecastloop.aspx?type=1 click on the 144St. box to see that far ahead!
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The problem without the normal early high altitude snow showers/pak during late October & November which builds a base is that when the snow does arrive all at once it creates Acute Avalanche conditions.
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Samerberg Sue,

If 23rd comes off the " omg when will it snow " thread will end ! And come to think of the " fantasy snow comp " too
And guess who had the 24th. Noza. Gutted for him !!!!
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There is a really good reason why the ski season in the majority of resorts across the Alps will start around 17 December. And a similar good reason why the first week of the season is usually dirt cheap.

If Christmas wasn't on 25th December I suspect the ski season would start around the beginning of January. wink Maybe, then, people wouldn't keep talking about March (when conditions are often at their best) as being "late season"
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The Accuweather forecast for Moutiers (which covers 15 days) shows it cooling down, with precipitation on the 24th, 25th and 26th November - with snow falling down to town level on one of the nights:

http://www.accuweather.com/en-us/fr/rh%c3%b4ne-alpes/moutiers/forecast2.aspx

Fingers crossed eh Smile ?
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Temps are dropping proper now..just need the parcipiation
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Temps are dropping proper now

... possibly
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mountainaddict wrote:
The Accuweather forecast for Moutiers (which covers 15 days) shows it cooling down, with precipitation on the 24th, 25th and 26th November - with snow falling down to town level on one of the nights:

http://www.accuweather.com/en-us/fr/rh%c3%b4ne-alpes/moutiers/forecast2.aspx

Fingers crossed eh Smile ?


Good off to Courchevel on the 3rd :-~
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pam w, If you don't worry then your don't get the sudden rush of adrenaline that is released as soon as some of that worry is released.

Its not the worrying that is enjoyable but the removal of the worry. If you are just matter of fact and rational about everything then that never happens.

I suspect when that first big dump arrives and doesn't melt you still get that frisson of excitement, if so then despite the outward rationalism, deep down your still had a tingle of worry that it wouldn't come. If not then what a shame.

+1! The whole will it / won't snow is part of the holiday anticipation. I'm cultivating a minor concern and I'm off to Cervinia for new year!
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Cold Snow front coming on the 30th complete with geopotential trough smack over the central alps.
Season Start.
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nixmap wrote:
Cold Snow front coming on the 30th complete with geopotential trough smack over the central alps.
Season Start.


I understand "cold snow" (well, warm snow would just be... well, rain) and "on the 30th" but I'm rather lost apart from that. I'll assume it's good though Smile

Mrs M.
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For the next 8 days no snow over the alpes, but it will com alot in eastern Pyrenees,
http://www.skipass.com/meteo/alpes/
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Still cold. Still dry.

*drums fingers on desk*
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Still cold. Still dry.

It's not cold, surely that's part of the problem? Temps are generally above normal.
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Just cancelled my holiday in March.... Sad
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Still cold. Still dry.

It's not cold, surely that's part of the problem? Temps are generally above normal.


Sub zero here this morning I think. That's 'cold'. Well, 'cool' at least.
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pam w wrote:

If Christmas wasn't on 25th December I suspect the ski season would start around the beginning of January. wink Maybe, then, people wouldn't keep talking about March (when conditions are often at their best) as being "late season"


You'll note that the French winter holiday is not really at Christmas but over the February/March period, which is when they go on their ski holidays, sensible people that they are.

I think we've still got around 12-15C afternoon temperatures and that looks to continue towards the end of November so snow will have a hard job sticking around at resort level on non-shaded slopes. There is something of a temperature inversion so it is often warmer at altitude. I doubt the resorts will want to blow their snowmaking load so early. Val Tho is scheduled to open at the end of the month though but they will need to make snow to do so.


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I'm not worried (booked for christmas). I don't know why so many think that winter or at least 'snow season' should start in November. and besides, November snow is useless, if you get a few foehn days at the start of December. Skiing is dependent of weather. There can be no snow, too much snow, it can be too hot, too cold, too windy, so what? As a child I used to go on "skiing holidays" to a hill with 10 slopes (eastern Europe). It still was a blast.

I wonder how much to blame are the ski movies and ski mags, they create expectations of powder-perfect trips, and we're left disappointed with our regular trips.
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