 Poster: A snowHead
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I understand that it has recently become compulsory to carry reflective jackets for all occupants in a car when driving in France - does anyone know if the car hire companies provide these? Also, if hiring from the swiss side of geneva airport presumably they wouldn't include the jackets anyway?
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Can't help with the hire co's but as well as a refelective bib for the driver a triangle is compulsory since July Ist as well 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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loatie, check out the driving in France pages on the AA's site, all the info there. The mandatory reflective jacket has been postponed until 1 October now, but it's worth checking with the hire company in question. If they don't supply them you can pick them up in any services here as it is now only Germany of the surrounding countries that doesn't require them. They don't cost the earth
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They don't cost the earth
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Only a couple of £ in QD stores
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Poundland do them for …… £1. They are light and can be easily carried in hand luggage.
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What next? Lifejackets? There are an awful lot of rivers a car might end up in in France. Parachutes perhaps, after that. You wouldn't want to drive off the Millau viaduct without one.
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| laundryman wrote: |
| What next? ..... |
Helmets.
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boredsurfin, according to the AA, it was originally scheduled for 1 July but was postponed to 1 October at the last minute.
Linds, precisely 
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If this is compulsory for all cars travalling in France will the car hire firms not supply them along with snow chains and warning triangles?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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if it's a legal req then i'm sure car hire companies in France will have to BUT we usually hire from the swiss side of GVA as do most others i think.........
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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That's not all. Starting July 1, 2010 all occupants must wear so called "michelin" suit in and within 15 metres of the car. The suit must maintain at least 100 kPa for men (14.5 psi) and 80 kPa for females and children under 13 (about 11.6 psi). No word why the different pressures. All gas stations are in the process of upgrading their air pressure stations to facilitate the increased demand for air. The suit will incorporate reflective patches as well.
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For the mockers: please come and stand next to me without your hi-viz when we are stranded on the side of a motorway.
Its a good idea, and carried in our car in the UK as a matter or course anyway (£2 from Tchibo) - its just some people need a little encouragement.
I believe they are also compulsory in Italy and Austria?
And perhaps a more moot point: are we advocating the Dawinian theory on the basis that the poor sod running into you won't suffer trauma, but having had the stoopid leave the gene pool is on balance a good thing?
This is not like just wearing things for your own protection (helmets anyone?), it also helps the unsuspecting motorist who is about to hit you, potentially avoid a life changing incident too ( and yes, I am aware of the irony in that last phrase).
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You know it makes sense.
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The French Police are so unpredictable and can implement their harsh rules at the drop of the hat - last week my wife had a EURO 90 on the spot fine as she pulled away from the motorway ticket barrier as my son was putting his seatbelt on after just taken the ticket. She reckons max 5 metres without a seatbelt on - they followed her for 20 mins before pulling her over and taking her off the motorway to a cashpoint so she could pay the fine. All fairly scarey for a woman on her own with 2 young children.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I heard from my insurance broker that the law came in on 1st July, but because all the shops ran out of vests, the police are not actively enforcing the law until October.
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Poster: A snowHead
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alti - dude, that does sound horrible, and OTT; sympathies for your wife. JimW is right about the vests though. My dad worked for the AA and (having started at 14 as a messenger boy, and with a break for WW2) ended up as Road Services Manager in the midlands. He went to several funeral services for his patrols killed on the motorway hard shoulder - and that was WITH all the gear, hi vis vehicles, etc. They always, of course, end up the dangerous side of the member broken down, to give them a lee. My dad was not an emotional man but it really cut him up when these guys, almost always with families, died in this way. It's horrendously dangerous being stuck at the side of a road like that, having hi vis vests is just a sensible step to take, and they're cheap as chips.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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From Sept cyclists in France will also be required to wear hi vis jackets at night and in poor visibility conditions.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Big White Lines, if you really are new to sHs (I think there ay be several with multiple sH names) welcome aboard.
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| achilles wrote: |
| Big White Lines, if you really are new to sHs (I think there ay be several with multiple sH names) welcome aboard. |
Thank you. I am indeed new to Snowheads, but i've posted on Natives for about 3 years. Just decided to pop over here and see what it's all about! 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Big White Lines, hope you enjoy your visits here. We are mostly harmless - though there can be a little blood-letting in Bend Zee Kness - and bizarre arguments in Apres. Helps keep boredom away.
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Big White Lines,
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i've posted on Natives for about 3 years.
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Welcome to snowHeads I thought I had seen that name before!
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Just come back from a few days in the sun in the South of France and hired a car at Toulon airport from Eurocars. No sign of a high vis jacket.
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From the AA web site
Stop Press *
A law concerning the compulsory carrying of a reflective jacket (EN471) and a warning triangle (ECE R27) in France came into force on 1st July 2008. However, this regulation will not be enforceable with on-the-spot fines until 1st October 2008, when the fine will be between 90 and 135 Euros.
The French Road Safety Department has now confirmed that:
From 1st October 2008 all drivers in France, including drivers of vehicles registered outside of France, must have one warning triangle and one reflective jacket in their vehicle. This does not apply to drivers of two-wheeled and three-wheeled vehicles.
However, we've recently heard reports via our port shops of some British motorists experiencing difficulties and being fined for not carrying reflective jackets. We therefore strongly recommend that motorists visiting France now carry a triangle and at least one reflective jacket inside the car.
18 July 2008 © Automobile
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I am not carrying a warning triangle on my bike hehehe
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Changing the subjet - but still on reflective jackets:
When working my second season in Dolomites we had a couple of new chalet staff who'd never skied before. We told them that in Italy the law is that all beginners have to wear reflective jackets until they'd passed a test...we said it was a requirement for work that they had to pass their test within two weeks. They were VERY nervous...but very attentive learners!! It worked a treat - and greatly entertained the rest of us
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Our car we hired from Turin Airport 2 weeks ago had a reflective jacket in its glove compartment.
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Christopher, reflective jackets have been compulsory in Italy for some time now, so it's good to know the hire companies provide them.
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You know it makes sense.
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Helen Beaumont, I doubt that the Italians would then provide a reflective traingle with their hire cars. Although we never opened up under the boot it may have well been there. That could be problematic if your hiring a car in Italy and driving it in France as we plan to do for our annual skiing trip.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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jtr, Excellent tip thanks. Bought a couple yesterday for our next trip to France. Bargain!
They pack away in one of the underseat drawers in the Touran.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Chris Bish, Awww I was going to wear the one I use when riding the the horse that says "Pass Wide and Slow" - I'm not sure if the wide bit refers to the horse's bum or mine........ 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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bev bish, The Boss has one. I find it very funny
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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bev bish, Actually it is me that needs that one, especially when skiing! Just make sure I put a colon after the first word to keep the pedants away!
In the interests of veracity, by the way, I need to record the truth that my wife's bum remains delightfully narrrow. I have no comment to make about that of the horse.
We do communicate by means other than the internet (Bev and I that is). She is in the kitchen and I am in the lounge!
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Chris Bish, were you referring to what is inside a colon? 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Christopher, nearly all the cars we have hired from Turin had a warning triangle somehwere in the boot, either clipped into the boot lid. or in the spare wheel compartment. However they would not be that difficult to tuck into your luggage if you were worried.
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right all, thanks to Snowheads I now have my reflective jackets, my warning triangle and my peage pass.....anything else needed to drive across France?
regards,
greg
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kitenski,
Beam deflectors
GB sticker
First aid Kit
Good map/atlas
Via Michelin route print out (incl. speed cam locations.)
snowHeads suggested routes are here http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32996&highlight=route
insurance policy
driving licence (both parts)
Log book (or V whatever it is these days.)
spare bulbs
Are you travelling with kids? 'cos thats another whole list
are you travelling with children?
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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kitenski, how old, the children not the DVD
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| kitenski, how old, the children not the DVD |
5 and 8
Route is
Leeds -> Dover
Calais to first night stop off LOGIS HOTEL
DOMAINE SAINT-PAUL
Sur D321.
27480 LYONS LA FORET (FRANCE)
Logis to Saint Julien des Landes http://www.camping-la-garangeoire.com/en/index_en.htm
Stay a week there, then drive down South to Moliets-et-Maa http://www.alternative-aquitaine.co.uk/mer_golf_mol.htm
Week at Moliets, then drive back to HOTEL LOGIS
AUBERGE DE MULSANNE HOTEL ARBOR
158, route de Tours.
72230 MULSANNE (FRANCE)
then Calais -> Dover -> Leeds....
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