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spyderjon, not enough stars, sorry, still no 100%
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Arno, Easy - I like my Dukes too! wink
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spyderjon, So would I, but Vulcan has six letters and Mercury has seven.

Oh hang on, he's edited the number of *s in the post. They don't do that in the crossword in the News of the World.


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Oceanic, sorry, but you still are one out. Unless my dyslexia has got the better of me again
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CH2O,

Dynafit (TLT6) Performance
Dynafit (TLT6) Mountain

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DB, Dynafit TLT6MTN would fit the number of *s?
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So in the end I didn't choose any of the recommended boots: I've settled on a pair of dynafit ones in 25 which I found at telemark pyrenees and ordered on their website Happy

Reasons:
- I did my own research in these few days and dynafit boots look like they are easily top tier compared to other brands, especially for the climb where everybody rates their comfort very high. Scarpa Maestrale/Gea looked good too but I was less a fan of their design, Garmont have binding problems, Black Diamond wasn't really recommended here...
- I read that the ones are quite a bit wider than say the TLT5 so I have more chance of getting in these. Also they are stiffer/warmer which fits me more (fairly aggressive ski style and I don't like cold feet!). Finally they can fit in non tech bindings which could also be useful some day, even though at this stage I plan on getting tech bindings.
- The mercury also looked interesting, but it is a bit heavier, and given my low weight (57kg) I'm not really sure I need the extra stiffness.

I'm now looking for skis, I haven't yet got experience in this domain, but I started doing some research and I think I'll settle on some mid fat skis to be able to enjoy powder days, but I'll still try to find some that are relatively light to carry. I think I'll fit them with dynafit radical bindings.

Any skis recommended by the community? Or a good source of info on current skis to make my own educated choice?
Also once I get my boots is it a better idea to go visit Solutions4Feet in Bicester or to stay local with Profeet? What about liners by the way? Do such shops provide good after market liners if needed or should I look for some myself (e.g. Intuition looks nice)? Or are the vanilla dynafit TF liners typically good enough?

Thanks again to all for your kind help. Even though I ended up choosing boots that weren't recommended here, trust me, the infos in this thread are very useful for me Smile
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dualmoo,

Nobody knows until you use those boots if they will fit or not, it also takes a while for them to bed in and your feet take a while to get used to touring.

Compeed is your friend, make sure you take plenty with you.



As for skis what level skier are you? What's your budget - there are touring skis around that cost €800 exc bindings.


You are going to need skins too
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=94077
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dualmoo,

Boots: If they fit I'm sure that you'll love them. If they don't fit then return them. If they are too big there is nothing a boot fitter can do to help, so if the gap behind either heel in a shell fit is >20mm I would definitely return them.

Skis: If you were going skiing in the Alps I would recommend this article...

http://www.cosleyhouston.com/haute-route-eq-list.htm

I've never been to Iceland though, so I've no idea how applicable an article on choosing skis for the Alps is to Iceland.

Sport Conrad, Telemark Pyrenees and Eko Sport are all good sources of cheap skis.
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Oceanic,

....... thought I'd seen that link before. (More touring info in this thread).

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=94107
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Hi again,

DB, of course I will bring some compeed and "elastoplaste" with me Happy
Oceanic, thanks for your link, lots of useful info there.

I got the boots today and they fit me very well length wise, there is a tiny bit of pressure on the side of the right foot but nothing too bad (I wore them for half an hour today, will try to get some more time soon) and they haven't been custom fitted yet.

For the skis I've done a bit of research. FYI I would say I'm an expert piste skier (strong technique and high speed on all slopes/conditions, turns are all carved, parallel and with perfectly tight legs) and advanced off piste (good technique, can link turns in powder but I still tend to lose balance/fall a bit too much for my taste when the snow conditions aren't the best (too deep, crusty, etc)). As I said I'm looking for lightweight skis, mid fat (I've already got a narrow alpine pair). I've found a small list of interesting skis:

Dynastar Cham High Mountain 87: length 166/172cm, width 127/87/103mm, radius 16m, weight 3.05kg
Dynastar Cham High Mountain 97: length 166/172cm, width 133/97/112mm, radius 16m, weight 3.18kg
Movement Magnet: length 169cm, width 129/94/118mm, radius 18m, weight 2.80kg
Movement X Logic: length 160/168cm, width 123/88/113mm, radius 17m, weight 2.00kg
Zag Ubac: length 164cm, width 130/94/116mm, radius 16m, weight 2.50kg
Dynafit Manaslu: length 169cm, width 118/92/104mm, radius 19m, weight 2.70kg
La Sportiva Lo5: length 168cm, width 125/95/115mm, radius 17m, weight 2.70kg

So in terms of specs these are all relatively similar, and I still have to make a choice between these based on what I feel about their raw characterestics (up to what width/length combination am I ready to go to comfortably, knowing that i've never skied wider than 84mm before? how much importance do I attribute to weight?). But I was also wondering if any of you has some subjective opinion about these, or feedback, or even has seen some interesting reviews which I may have missed? Also any other skis in the same range which you recommend? Range being: 160 to 170cm, somewhere around 90mm in width (I don't want to buy super wide skis until I first test them for myself on hardpack/groomed snow as I've never used any before), not too heavy for the climb.

DB, I see in the thread you linked that you advise against too low a weight on the feet, as it diminishes stability in the downhill. Anybody else experienced this problem before? I am targeting a pretty light setup: 1.80kg/boot, 500g/binding, and if I go with the x logic, 1kg/ski, which would leave me with 3.3kg/foot, so would I be affected?

Thanks all!
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dualmoo,

Too light/soft a ski can get throw all over the place in difficult conditions (e.g. Breakable crust, refrozen crud etc). At your light weight you won't need too stiff a ski.

Heard very good things about the movement X-series Logic but they are €800 list price (without binding). I've seen it advertised for €700 on a few websites.

My other tips ....

For a lightweight ski that can still perform well in harder conditions = Völkl Inuk or Amaruq

The K2 Wayback is a very good touring powder ski with a 90mm waist.

Skins = Kohla I Clip 100% Mohair
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dualmoo,

Forgot to say have fun ......

Südtirol two weeks ago.






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If money is burning a hole in your pocket you might want to consider these

http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/en/product_info.php?products_id=78250

http://skitheory.blogspot.co.at/2012/03/dps-wailer-99-review.html
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With light boots and light bindings you can afford to go a bit heavier on the skis. The snow here can be pretty variable thanks to the weather. The Cham 97 would be my choice of the skis you mention.

Are you day touring?
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Thanks, the wailers indeed look great. Not sure if they'll be available though so I'll have to check. Any feedback on pure vs hybrid for these?
Meh, I'll be touring for a week, but returning to the hotel every night
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Cool, in which case something a bit heavier is no great loss as you won't have all your provisions and sleeping gear.
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dualmoo, I've got a brand new pair of Dynafit Manaslu 169's going for a bargain price if you're interested?
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dualmoo, I have 24.5 feet , and just got sorted out with a pair of garmont delirium boots in a 25 , these work really well in conjunction with my DPS walier 99's ( hybrid ) mounted with baron small bindings . Only done short tours of 3-4 hrs so far , but no issues with weight for me .

Choose the hybrid on suitability for my skiing ability level , and they have been amazing so far , in the recent fresh snow in Austria they were just about faultless in deep powder , heavy chopped up snow , and coped really well with spring freeze thaw conditions . For touring I use G3 alpinist skins . Can't comment on the advantages of the pures but plenty of research available over epic.
http://www.epicski.com/t/109462/review-dps-112rp-hybrid-pure
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dualmoo,

Having pointed you in the direction of 99mm wide skis I'm as guilty as this as anyone but at 57kg I suspect you will get all the float you need (unless you are going heliskiing) out of an 80 to 90mm wide ski. A sub 90mm ski will be lighter, more manoeuvrable and probably give you better edge grip on the steeper hardsnow (touring is more often than not less than pristine fluffy powder)

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=99516
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Hi all,

I wanted to thank you for all your help in selecting and finding my gear! I ended up ordering almost a full set of equipment from the internet! It was expensive (and quite risky with no chance to test anything) but well worth it and everything went very well!

My Dynafit One weren't hurting my feet a bit and were very light (only grip I have is I couldn't find a way to make them work with my relatively tight gaiters in open position - don't know how other people do this). And the wailer 99s were just awesome! Great on hardpack, but absolutely brilliant as soon as there was a few cm of softer snow (and we were lucky enough to have some of the best powder i've seen on some days).

As to Iceland, it's absolutely amazing for skiing, I highly recommend it. Here are some pics our guide took, if you want to check it out: http://www.kailashadventure.com/ski-de-rando-en-islande-voyage-du-20-au-27-avril-2013/
And that's me in my full gear shredding the icelandic mountains Wink http://www.kailashadventure.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DSC_5450.jpg

Thanks again everyone!
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Looks great!!
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dualmoo, hand't realised we'd talked you into getting quite such bling stuff! glad it all worked for you and that looks like a great trip. nothing quite like skiing down to the beach
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