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Thornyhill wrote:
jimmer wrote:
Having read a bit further in the thread, I genuinely enjoy the sensation of being at risk of injury/dying


and you don't think that is reckless? Laughing


Nicely edited!

I still ski within my limits, I don't expose myself to stuff that I'm not at least relatively sure I can do, if I was just blindly hurling myself off anything, that'd be reckless.
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I don't fall much unless I am dicking about. I don't try not to fall. It just doesn't seem to happen if you concentrate on the basics. Probably different for someone doing freestyle flips and spins, but that isn't really what the thread is about. I think that if I was afraid of falling, I probably wouldn't be able to ski at all. It wouldn't be any fun at the very least!!
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Sounds a little like you're saying we're stupid for falling over, no?


No, people on this thread seem to be deliberately misreading abc's posts. She said some falls were the result of stupidity; that's surely incontrovertible? She didn't say all falls were a result of stupidity or that everybody who falls is stupid. The pro-falling brigade here seem determined to put words in her mouth.

On the other hand, jimmer you are rude (as well as incorrect, I suspect) to suggest that abc is a wuss and a poor skier.
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abc wrote:


That's why I take issue with your assertion of "part of the game". Your "game" isn't the same as most of ours.


Who is this "most of ours"? Most of yours maybe, but I don't think you are speaking for the majority here? Puzzled

Thing is, you have taken issue to anyone who has suggested that falling may be a part of the risk to advance to new levels, a lot here have said they accept a certain risk, probably the majority actually.
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gatecrasher wrote:
abc wrote:


That's why I take issue with your assertion of "part of the game". Your "game" isn't the same as most of ours.


Who is this "most of ours"? Most of yours maybe, but I don't think you are speaking for the majority here? Puzzled

I don't usually agree with Thornyhill on much of anything, but...

Thornyhill wrote:
Probably different for someone doing freestyle flips and spins, but that isn't really what the thread is about.

Granted, that's only a few people (who bother to speak up) so that's no proof of "majority"...

I'm too lazy to dig up the percentage of people who spends a lot of time in the park. Do you propose that's significant portion of skiing population, perhaps over 50%?
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Tbh now I just cba either, dead horse well flogged I reckon! rolling eyes
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abc wrote:

I don't usually agree with Thornyhill on much of anything, but...




Hey - I've tried to be nice Happy
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abc wrote:

I don't usually agree with Thornyhill on much of anything, but...


Feels good doesn't it..... actually agreeing with someone!

Whoops! Embarassed Thornyhill, take this damn thing off me! wink Toofy Grin
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you have taken issue to anyone who has suggested that falling may be a part of the risk to advance to new levels,

What is it with these falling-over people? Have the successive blows to their heads rendered them incapable of reading? What abc said was

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I was't argueing falling is not part of skiing. But I AM arguing the number of falls is NOT inherently proportinoal to the amount of learning. If you were indeed trying something new, likelihood of falls are higher. But the reverse is not so, falling isn't always related to learning.
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pam w, yes we have had successive blows to the head.

We shouldn't really beat ourselves up about it though.... "stupidity" "failure" our "crap technique" and "pushing things" beyond where we should have (lord forgive us) have all played a part here! Little Angel
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gatecrasher, indeed, the ref in this match seems a bit biased! Toofy Grin
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meh, Female ref! Shocked





Runs for tin hat!....... Laughing
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At the risk of fueling the flames:

Was anyone actually taught to fall during their earlier ski lessons? Is there a right and wrong way to do it?

I'm a cautious person generally with pretty poor balance. I'm crap at climbing over stuff, wobble on stepping stones and generally like to ski within the limits of my comfort zone. I appreciate lessons as the school swot in me tends to show off to the 'teacher' and this pushes me a bit outside the comfort zone.

Generally I fall about once every day or two. If taking lessons this might increase to every hour or two. Often the first fall of the holiday is a relief - nothing bad happens and I feel a bit more confident to push it.

However, despite my slow speed, I've noticed I have more painful falls than OH, who falls a lot more often. I'm currently nursing a knee ligament injury caused by a very slow motion fall - wobble, it's ok i'm still up, oh no I'm not.
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I tend to fall at the end of the day when I have been pushing it and am skiing lazily. I'll catch an edge or my balance will go slightly when stopping. Since I now know it, I tend to come in when the sypmtoms start to show, regardless of the time. Haven't fallen in a while other than terrain realted (icy/gravel) and third party (moronic snowboarder) realted incidents.
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I've got a cracking shiner after face planting on Tignes glacier last week Very Happy
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RattytheSnowRat, Important point about knowing when to call it a day. Tend to do it myself too.
A good piece of advice is "Never do one last run"
There is of course a big difference between falling because tired, falling due to pushing the limits and falling due to poor technique. Then of course there are combinations of the three!
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I spent at least 50% of this afternoon upside down. This might have had something to do with the 60cms of fresh powder though. Cool
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since I started this my back bottom has been on the snow twice... once yesterday and once today... both on pisted steep red pitches.... exactly the same doing gs turns... didn't even stop just bounced up (both did unbuckle my lower two buckles on my boots though).... still waiting for a wipe out....
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janeed wrote:
At the risk of fueling the flames:

Was anyone actually taught to fall during their earlier ski lessons? Is there a right and wrong way to do it?


It's taught in some other sports but not in ski to my knowledge. I did figure out why though, once you pass the beginner level, you really have no control of how you fall when you do, you are just a ragdoll in for the ride.

Personally I'd rather not fall because it hurts and damage my gear, but when you are trying to improve it's inevitable, especially now that I'm practicing moguls.
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