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So FraserP is here and I can now admit to what I had been keeping a surprise from him. As well as new untried skis (Elan Amphibios, coming off of a set of Elan Magfires 78 Ti's for them), I also went boot shopping a couple of weeks ago and replaced the old Head 8.8's (60 flex - though old) with a pair of Head Vectors (set at 90 flex). I am now taking a lot of stick about how many times I will be dumped on my backside in the first 100 yards.
Would anyone like to post me any encouragement that this won't happen please?
Am I nuts to be off on my hols with untested skis AND boots?!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Megamum,
Don't worry about it. Anybody who hires has completely new kit every year.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Megamum, it shouldn't take you long to get used to them (but what was wrong with the Magfires?). I had a friend with new high performance snowboard and stiffer boots this year - he was dumped a lot for the first couple of days, but was enjoying them by the end of the week.
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Get plenty of time in your boots before you go. Even better than just wearing them around the house, drop your skis down in front of the telly & click in to them & do half an hour of flexing every evening - which you can't do very effectively without the leverage/stability of the skis.
And so your surprise for him on Valentine's Day was that you'd spent cash on yourself 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Megamum, he's just miffed that he hasn't got shiny and new . . . tell him rule 5 applies
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Megamum,
From the title Ithought Richard Branson had started a new business venture!
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spyderjon, it wasn't as though he didn't benefit, I bought the skis off him!!! We are off tonight (well 2am tomorrow), so I can't try clicking into skis, but I have been wearing them around the house and been using them with the Skia device since I had them.
pam w, Nothing wrong with the magfires  I now have a quiver!! I am aiming to take both pairs when I can (EoSB in mind here). I still think the Magfires will outperform the new babies in crud and slush and potentially even in the deep stuff, but for a good piste in midwinter snow I think the Amphibios could be easier - the Mag's are a bit heavy.
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Megamum, have a really good trip - looking forward to the reports!
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| Masque wrote: |
| Megamum, he's just miffed that he hasn't got shiny and new . . . tell him rule 5 applies |
I'm just looking forward to the first few runs down. The Magfires dumped madam on her rear at least 4 times on their first use.
This time we (myself and the kids) will have the cameras ready! 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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You'll be fine, I had to rent boots and skis halfway through my trip last week as my own were deemed as holding me back. Like you I was apprehensive (partly in case it showed up shoddy technique regardless of equipment) but I need not have worried, I took a couple of nursery green runs before my lesson so I wouldn't get any nasty surprises and had a great time.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You see what I have to put with!!
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You know it makes sense.
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| Megamum wrote: |
Am I nuts to be off on my hols with untested skis AND boots?!! |
Surely this is at least a 2 part question 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Megamum, Should have gone to HH not far to go back to Bicester
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Poster: A snowHead
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| spyderjon wrote: |
Get plenty of time in your boots before you go. Even better than just wearing them around the house, drop your skis down in front of the telly & click in to them & do half an hour of flexing every evening - which you can't do very effectively without the leverage/stability of the skis.
And so your surprise for him on Valentine's Day was that you'd spent cash on yourself |
Sounds like you are not the only one who is nuts!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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....yes nuts...but have a great time all of you!
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| Cynic wrote: |
| Megamum, Should have gone to HH not far to go back to Bicester |
none of the product came from Bicester thanks
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Cynic, nope, as CEM rightly says I was unable to shop with him due to time and distance issues. The skis I bought from FraserP the boots I got from a local store. It's not that I wouldn't have wanted to shop with a SH recommended esteemed bootfitter, but there are none within say an hour of where I live.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Fri 15-02-13 22:39; edited 1 time in total
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Is Large Zookeeper still in Colchester?
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Masque, I didn't know he was even there originally. I went back to where I got my first ones from. The only thing that was a bit wince worthy was discovering that I could have bought the self same pair of boots £80 cheaper online. However, I couldn't have tried about 5 different pairs on (at my insistence) just so I knew in my mind that I had been offered the best pair, nor had Then checked and adjusted to fit me. I guess that is worth £80 if IT do not end up with sore feet.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| However, I couldn't have tried about 5 different pairs on (at my insistence) just so I knew in my mind that I had been offered the best pair, |
Megamum, are you saying you talked the bootfitter into selling you the boots that you liked the best! 
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| Masque wrote: |
| Is Large Zookeeper still in Colchester? |
Jules in in the Bootroom at Sanglard Sports in Chamonix.
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Megamum, good to hear all working well.
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Megamum, Out of interest did you end up in a smaller size? Good luck with your new gear 
Please could you also undertake an experiment for me....ski with the amphibios on the wrong feet (just for a short time and on easy terrain obviously)and let me know the result, a friend had them as hire skis, had not been told and had not noticed they were marked left and right, she skied the week with them on randomly! She hadn't really noticed anything different.
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You know it makes sense.
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sarah, no, they measured me again and started off with the same size in the same brand within the same range. Then because I was worried about them being too big they let me try a size smaller and also something in a different brand with a slightly narrower last. In the finish I ended up back in the same size because the smaller sizes just wouldn't work. The only thing that changed significantly was the model, I moved from an Edge to a Vector.
I'm happy to try the skis on different feet. The advertising suggests that brings the rocker into play and helps in soft snow conditions, but as you suggest it might be interesting to see if there is an appreciable difference.
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Megamum, Boots sound good 
Didn't know that about the Ampibios then that may explain why she hadn't noticed anything, we had the whole week in soft, fresh snow.
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Omg what sort of Frankenskis are those?
And Elan really should sort out their website. Either the outside edge is the outside edge, or it's the inside edge. It can't be both at the same time.
Megamum, I'm sorry to be cheeky about your new acquisitions, which I am sure you will enjoy, but my word, has marketing taken over the world?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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under a new name, I must admit I can't get my head around it either. It seems to me that you have to engage all four edges as you turn left and right therefore I can't see How you can get the supposed rocker edge to engage to any huge benefit by putting Them on opposite feet. Can someone let me know if I am right to be doubtful?
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Masque, I thought the same thing, indeed I even posted to ask How such a situation would be handled, and everyone conveniently ignored the question!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Megamum, lol! I have just looked at these, can't really see a problem understanding what they are trying to achieve, the outside ski's inside edge has camber and gives you full available edge grip, while the inside ski's engaging edge has rocker enabling easy steering of the inside ski...simples... A quick look at the website would suggest that they are definitely not, designed to be swapped around! 
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gatecrasher, there is plenty of evidence on the internet of people doing exactly that, and I think there are places where Elan themselves recommend doing just that to take advantage of the rocker in conditions like deep or powder snow. If I can find them again I'll post the links up.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| gatecrasher, there is plenty of evidence on the internet of people doing exactly that, and I think there are places where Elan themselves recommend doing just that to take advantage of the rocker in conditions like deep or powder snow. If I can find them again I'll post the links up. |
Megamum, interesting, do they have left/right marked on them? I only looked quickly on their website, I'm wondering how the rocker would help by swapping over as it would give you an easy turning outside ski and a grippier cambered inside ski?
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I'm an engineer, this all sounds like marketing ... to me
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musher, Yep, maybe they had a big run of twisted shovels...and so it was born...The Amphibio!
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