 Poster: A snowHead
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I seem to remember being told that where half sizes are offered, often they aren't true half sizes: the outer boot is the same as the next size up and only the inner is different.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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^ not untrue but again something that varies by manufacturer
It's a boot fitters conspiracy I'm tellin ya 
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Claude B, Unfortuantely no lightweight here  But 60 is what the existing boots have on them.
A part of me is saying slurge the cash, but then there is the the prudunt me saying, 'well you've boots that you will probably be happy spending several more holidays in esp. if you never know any better'
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anarski, 26.0 and 26.5 etc use exactly the same shell, it's only the thickness of the insole that takes out some of the volume that's the difference.
Megamum, I'd say 60 flex was way too soft for you. I'd be looking at a 90 or 100 for you as well as a size smaller
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Spyderman, that's useful - thank you. It's sounding more and more like a trip to a bootfitter isn't it? That sort of flex is going to require a change in shell range (AFAICS the same range doesn't cover that flex) and therefore beyond a self bought shot at a suitable size. I guess I need to ask two further questions
1) Is 2 weeks too close to a holiday to go shopping and get something fitting well?
2) How many times will I end up my rear end in the first 100 yards with brand new unskied skis and a new set of boots which could be up to 40 flex points higher
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Megamum, totally the wrong thing to do, but the first time I skied my latest boots was on holiday, fortunately I've gained the experience to know exactly when they're "right" and have the knowledge to say precisely what needs doing to them, together with the skills of CEM to give me exactly what I want. What used to take 20 hours and many visits I can now do in less than 2. Working with a boot fitter is the key together with knowing when it feels right. I'm probably one of CEM's most difficult customers, he always says it's impossible to feel what I can feel inside the boots, but I can, really I just can.
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| barry wrote: |
lynseyf, that should work a treat as long as you buy the same model (or at least brand) in the smaller size. It's amazing how big a difference there is between different manufacturers sizing
Ain't nowt wrong with buying boots online - if you know what works for you and you have some knowledge of fitting |
Hopefully! I can't afford new boots, spent €500 at the start of 2012 at what looked to be the best local fitter and after 25 days skiing they are annoyingly big, shop says I can't go smaller, I reckon I can and that it is probably worth a €50 gamble on ebay. With the amount I have spent on boots I could have bought one of these and fitted them myself 
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My problem is still not knowing How anything is really meant to feel. Take, say a 40 point higher flex. It might sound an odd question, but what difference will I notice when Iski please?
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Megamum, Skiing a boot that's too soft you get the feeling that you're overpowering the boot, like it's collapsing without transmitting your energy to the ski. When you flex the boot gives, but the Ski doesn't react, so your effort is wasted. As said with your height, weight and ability a 90 - 100 flex rating would better suit you.
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Megamum, so today can you feel a lot of forward movement in the boot when you flex into a turn? With a stiffer boot that distance the boot cuff travels when flexed is greatly reduced because the forces from the flex are transferred more directly and a lot sooner to the ski, so what you"ll notice is a much quicker and more powerful-feeling turn initiation. BUT, weight aside if you don't notice a big flex movement today before the movement from your action is transferred to the ski, then you may not be ready or need anything stiffer - though I would say most people who have been skiing for a while enjoy a stiffer boot - don't go mad though cos stiff boots can be a bug to get on and off - though for the changes you are looking at this shouldn't be a problem
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Megamum, another thing to note too if you're going down this route is that flex can vary from boot to boot and manufacturer to manufacturer, so again with sizes the numbers are a guide. For example I have a boot which is marked as a 70, I have another boot from the same maufacturer but a different model and newer made with different plastics, it is a 90, there is no difference in flex between the two of them even though the difference is officially 20, if anything the 90s are softer!
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Sorry to hijack the thread a little, but I noticed earlier someone mentioned something about getting the boot "blown"...
Now I have flat feet and a subsequently, my feet are pretty wide. I've got a pair of pretty snug Lange ski boots which really pinch on the widest point of my foot after a couple or hours.
Could I have the shell expanded a little in that one hotspot to give my feet more space?
Could the cheapskate in me also possibly use a heat torch and make the modification myself, or would I be best getting it done at my local ski shop?
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You know it makes sense.
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Have you seen a real racers feet after crawling into plug boots for years? A pointer from history of really! tight boots
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| shoosk wrote: |
Sorry to hijack the thread a little, but I noticed earlier someone mentioned something about getting the boot "blown"...
Now I have flat feet and a subsequently, my feet are pretty wide. I've got a pair of pretty snug Lange ski boots which really pinch on the widest point of my foot after a couple or hours.
Could I have the shell expanded a little in that one hotspot to give my feet more space?
Could the cheapskate in me also possibly use a heat torch and make the modification myself, or would I be best getting it done at my local ski shop? |
ski shop - you will wreck them with a blow torch/heat gun. Blow dryer would be OK, but you won't get enough heat in to make a difference
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Poster: A snowHead
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Profeet have some of the best kit, outside Cham
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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shoosk, I learnt to deform shells with a heat gun, and still do, but it is very easy to melt the plastic - everyone has done it at least once! I would think you will have more trouble finding something to put inside the boot which allows you to push it out gradually.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Spyderman wrote: |
Megamum, I'd say 60 flex was way too soft for you. I'd be looking at a 90 or 100 for you as well as a size smaller |
Kind of agree with this, and It's also very dependent on how you ski and the fit, most 8 year olds I know are on or above 60 flex, with some 11 year olds on 90 + junior boots, tbh I'm not convinced 90+ on lightweight kids help or hinder (being polite) at the same time I see pretty good adults in 90 flex.
It's not just down to the flex rating, a poor fitting 90 flex could be harder to flex than a good fitting 120 flex.
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Megamum, ps, go see CEM, !
LIFE'S TOO SHORT! eh!
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Megamum, it really is a no brainer, good fitting boots will give you the biggest step change in your skiing short of doing a season. It makes skiing much more fun!
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Thanks all. I might leave it to the pros and visit a shop. Any ideas how much they might charge me?
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shoosk, I ask 15€ a boot in general, though depends how nice the client is. That includes any later re-touches though - not 15€ a go!
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Megamum, i'd think that you'd notice if they were too soft. You'd feel yourself overpowering the boot.
While a properly fitting boot is indeed revolutionary, changing just because you think the number is wrong is not (and can be costly).
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under a new name, Damn the cost just a get a new pair, the journey alone to bicester has been known to improve stance and positive outlook.
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| albinomountainbadger wrote: |
| shoosk, I ask 15€ a boot in general, though depends how nice the client is. That includes any later re-touches though - not 15€ a go! |
Wow, much more reasonable than I was expecting. I was thinking it would be similar in price to getting custom foot beds.
Next stop...ski shop
My upcoming ski holidays are likely to be a lot more comfortable than I had first imagined.
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| shoosk wrote: |
| albinomountainbadger wrote: |
| shoosk, I ask 15€ a boot in general, though depends how nice the client is. That includes any later re-touches though - not 15€ a go! |
Wow, much more reasonable than I was expecting. I was thinking it would be similar in price to getting custom foot beds.
Next stop...ski shop
My upcoming ski holidays are likely to be a lot more comfortable than I had first imagined. |
Well that's how I do it, you might pay a lot more elsewhere!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| albinomountainbadger wrote: |
| shoosk wrote: |
| albinomountainbadger wrote: |
| shoosk, I ask 15€ a boot in general, though depends how nice the client is. That includes any later re-touches though - not 15€ a go! |
Wow, much more reasonable than I was expecting. I was thinking it would be similar in price to getting custom foot beds.
Next stop...ski shop
My upcoming ski holidays are likely to be a lot more comfortable than I had first imagined. |
Well that's how I do it, you might pay a lot more elsewhere! |
same here, £10-£15 per area, depending on what we are doing, if we are doing multiples i work it on a rate per 30mins
where are you based??
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CEM, Previously Méribel but in Morzine now, though admittedly only doing the odd stretch for friends of friends as it's not a service my new employer publicises.
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