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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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BigMacB93, maybe have a quiet word with an instructor while your at Hemel, get their view while skiing?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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BigMacB93, As gatecrasher says. Note that Hemel do pre-instructor training sessions, Tuesday evenings I think but they may do others. These give you an introduction to central theme and give you feedback on your current level and areas for development to meet the L1 requirements.
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It's got to be said, I'm frikkin' impressed that you're at expert level after only two weeks! You must be supremely talented.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Zero-G, I'm looking forward to reaching "mostly harmless" level 
BigMacB93, You need to be seen by an instructor/trainer. I've faffed around on snow a lot longer than you and I'm having a cautious thought about BASI, but I know I have to be seen by someone who knows what BASI are looking for in a L1 applicant and you need to be very realistic/humble about your abilities . . . and be prepared to be knocked back quite hard.
But good luck.
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BigMacB93, I'm at Hemel this Sunday so I'll have a look if you want. I'm on the snow from 09:00 - 14:00 with a break from 12-1 pm. Will only be there until 3pm at the latest though.
With only two weeks experience it might be a bit early in your skiing career to take on L1 just yet, but you never know and just doing the course will bring on your skiing miles so you could look at doing that rather than a week in the alps this season. £ for £, it's probably better value for your long-term plans whether you pass or not.
BTW, being an instructor at L1 is not about being able to demonstrate perfect technique on a black run but you do want to be able to demonstrate perfect technique for short and long piste turns, be able to demo (slowly and precisely) all turn styles from snowplough up to parallel/carve, be good with people and have a genuine interest in learning and teaching.
PM me if you can make it on Sunday. It's the last weekend I'll be there for a while.
EDIT: added bold wording. So important to be a good learner to be able to be a good teacher!
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Thu 10-01-13 19:19; edited 1 time in total
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be able to demo (slowly and precisely) all turn styles from snowplough
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I believe that there is more than one prospective instructor who has failed because of a very dodgy snowplough.
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I believe that there is more than one prospective instructor who has failed because of a very dodgy snowplough.
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BigMacB93, 16 weeks is a bit high IMO - I passed the L1 with about 10 weeks skiing, but I know people who have passed with 3 or 4 weeks.
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My daughter came out of hers with "an awesome snowplough" (her words not mine)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I hugely admire the snowploughs you see piste rescuers doing, when they bring a sled down a steep piste. Quads of iron, perfect control. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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pam w, yup, they are the masters. Have seen a snowboarder do it too, equally as well controlled, a masterclass in sideslip.
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| BigMacB93 wrote: |
| BASI reccomend you have 16 weeks experience (seems a little high to me) |
If more people turned up for their L1 / L2 course having actually done this, there would be far fewer dissapointed people at the end of those courses...
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You know it makes sense.
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| Masque wrote: |
| Zero-G, I'm looking forward to reaching "mostly harmless" level |
You and me both!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Zero-G wrote: |
| It's got to be said, I'm frikkin' impressed that you're at expert level after only two weeks! You must be supremely talented. |
I had 4 lessons on a dry slope before I did my first week, and I had a bit of trial by fire, as I went out with my roomates on first day. (now keep in mind I had never skii'd real snow before) and was thrown straight onto a blue. I think the whole idea of make your way back or your stuck took away any sense of fear I may have had.
That and I've had really great instruction with UCPA both times.
I think from what you all have said, I need to book myself into an observation session.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Good luck BigMacB93 and let us know how you get on.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Zero-G,
Thank you
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| offpisteskiing wrote: |
| BigMacB93 wrote: |
| BASI reccomend you have 16 weeks experience (seems a little high to me) |
If more people turned up for their L1 / L2 course having actually done this, there would be far fewer dissapointed people at the end of those courses... |
It's always seemed to me the 16 weeks requirement is (or at least should be) to ensure that you have had time to experience a variety of conditions, rather than whether or not you have the skills (although if you have the skills after just two weeks, you really must be a complete natural). Instructing surely isn't simply a mechanical exercise but also about the mountain environment
Personally I have rather more than 16 weeks under my belt and have probably taken more instruction than most, but I don't feel ready for L1. Either that, or I have a misplaced sense of where the standard for L1 is.
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| eng_ch wrote: |
| offpisteskiing wrote: |
| BigMacB93 wrote: |
| BASI reccomend you have 16 weeks experience (seems a little high to me) |
If more people turned up for their L1 / L2 course having actually done this, there would be far fewer dissapointed people at the end of those courses... |
It's always seemed to me the 16 weeks requirement is (or at least should be) to ensure that you have had time to experience a variety of conditions, rather than whether or not you have the skills (although if you have the skills after just two weeks, you really must be a complete natural). Instructing surely isn't simply a mechanical exercise but also about the mountain environment |
Definitely from L2 but L1 is only for indoor/dry slopes so by the time a L1 is ready to pass their L2 (which is an exponentially higher standard and only done in resort) they should have picked up that experience.
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| Personally I have rather more than 16 weeks under my belt and have probably taken more instruction than most, but I don't feel ready for L1. Either that, or I have a misplaced sense of where the standard for L1 is. |
You'd be surprised. Have a go if it's what you want to do. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| eng_ch wrote: |
| but I don't feel ready for L1. Either that, or I have a misplaced sense of where the standard for L1 is. |
Very possibly.
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| It's always seemed to me the 16 weeks requirement is (or at least should be) to ensure that you have had time to experience a variety of conditions, rather than whether or not you have the skills (although if you have the skills after just two weeks, you really must be a complete natural). Instructing surely isn't simply a mechanical exercise but also about the mountain environment |
Definitely from L2 but L1 is only for indoor/dry slopes so by the time a L1 is ready to pass their L2 (which is an exponentially higher standard and only done in resort) they should have picked up that experience. |
But notwithstanding that an L1 only teaches indoors, they are still preparing their students to ski outdoors, so it seems to me the teacher should at least have some decent experience of what to expect "out there".
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BigMacB93,
I will also be at Hemel all day Sunday. I have some lessons on main slope, but little in the way of breaks. What time are you thinking of skiing. flowa and I can even compare notes!!!!
PM me if you wish to discuss.
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| scooby_simon wrote: |
BigMacB93,
I will also be at Hemel all day Sunday. I have some lessons on main slope, but little in the way of breaks. What time are you thinking of skiing. flowa and I can even compare notes!!!!
PM me if you wish to discuss. |
Well one of you could at least video for the rest of us 
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anarchicsaltire, I can't help smiling at that
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I'd offer to help but I'm off to Italy on Sunday, tough I know. 
Maybe when I get back I'm happy to take a look.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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All sounds great to me. 
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| eng_ch wrote: |
| But notwithstanding that an L1 only teaches indoors, they are still preparing their students to ski outdoors, so it seems to me the teacher should at least have some decent experience of what to expect "out there". |
Exactly.
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You know it makes sense.
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