 Poster: A snowHead
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After having a big crash when going fast downhill in a straight line I tend to avoid it now and just do big carving turns instead. I would like to regain my confidence when going straight but can't seem to find many tips on doing this? Is this a simple thing to do and am I missing something? I would like to find out what went wrong that time so it doesn't happen again and also if there are any expert recommendations on body position, weight distribution, etc. that I should be adopting.
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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A man after my own heart! 
It's harder to Schuss on carving skis with an exaggerated sidecut as they are always wanting to turn and they are jittery in a straight line which makes it feel like you're about to catch an edge. Keep your weight forward and the hands high and forward and hope for the best is my technique
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| red 27 wrote: |
| and hope for the best is my technique |
 perhaps one you're best not sharing?
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Masque, Too late 
Perhaps a better way of putting it is that whenever I'm schussing at speed I always think, "wow, it's gonna hurt it I fall over now"
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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raybey1, why not just roll very gently from side to side so your ski's edges are always engaged. Doesn't need to be a big, sweeping turn, but you will have the security of both skis running on the snow with less likelihood of jitteriness or suddenly catching an edge.
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Thanks for the replies.
rob@rar - That is what I have been doing recently but keep seeing all these other skiers flying down straight without having big crashes, just wondered if there was something I was missing.
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raybey1, if you are just rolling gently from edge to edge there will be very little difference in speed between you and other skiers; they certainly won't be flying past you (unless you are talking about straight-lining a red run?). I'm talking about almost skiing in a straight line, with just the barest of change in direction.
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rob@rar - Oh I see just keeping on an edge. I will try that in a couple of weeks when I go. Still be good to know if there is a decent technique for keeping them straight and not having them always feel like they are going to catch an edge.
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| raybey1 wrote: |
| Still be good to know if there is a decent technique for keeping them straight and not having them always feel like they are going to catch an edge. |
No magic technique that I'm aware of, just stay well balanced.
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Yeah, +1 for Rob@rar's advice.
When you get to a certain speed on most skis, (dependent on type of ski, snow conditions, weight and ability of the skier no doubt) your skis will start to get jittery for want of a better word. I find in excess of around 60mph the wind resistance will start to lift the front of my skis and make them "chatter" a little making the chances of it all going wrong significantly bigger. If your constantly transferring from edge to edge you will lose almost none of that speed and maintain a far greater degree of stability and control.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Not like the old days on 210cm planks - str8-lining was easy, it was the turns that caused problems 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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red 27,
Those old 215's are staying in the garage. I'll put up with the jittery new 184's that can do the bendy things
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Turning is significantly more enjoyable than going straight.
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You know it makes sense.
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My 3 year old doesn't think so.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Mr Piehole, Hence my Facebook comments.
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Poster: A snowHead
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rob@rar, 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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raybey1, modern skis are the problem, they're designed to turn. Catching an edge is always a risk while straight running. Only remedy for going quick in a straight line is long skis with little or no side cut, get yourself some 240 KL skis, no problem going fast in a straight line, turns might be a bit of an issue though.
As has been said keeping the edges slightly engaged is a much safer way and you'll still go fast.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks all, nice to know its the skis and not me for once 
Ill stick to keeping the edges engaged then.
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raybey1, It's not the skis.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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rob@rar, I see an opportunity for an Inside-Out clinic at Hemel
"Going Str8 with Rob and Scott"
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Schussing is for dinosaurs, all the cool kidz now do that not really trying poles behind the back position (well those that aren't actually sitting on the tails of their skis)
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fatbob, I can get down to sit on my tails . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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red 27, We prefer to call it "Increasing Your Speed" and we do it during the summer months when the slope is likely to be quiet.
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| Masque wrote: |
| fatbob, I can get down to sit on my tails . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
But can you get back up?
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| Mr Piehole wrote: |
| My 3 year old doesn't think so. |
My 8 year old is only just getting the idea!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Masque wrote: |
| fatbob, I can get down to sit on my tails . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
But can you get back up? |
Nothing gives me more joy than watching someone cruising through a busy resort centre green run sitting on the backs of their skis struggling to get back up.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Masque wrote: |
| fatbob, I can get down to sit on my tails . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
But can you get back up? |
Stupid question  Of course I can . . . once I've spat out the snow and found my poles.
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Masque,
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You know it makes sense.
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if the french fries are wobbly try some pizza
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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I find that there is a good balance position which is very low and wide,skis feel flat,and it feels stable once you get on it.
Arms forward on knees.......hands together,palms up.
You then get to that high speed ( above 60mph ! ) point where you know the limit of recovery has gone so its just a case of hanging on keeping stable !!
I always check the piste first with a previous run and obviously only straight line it if its totally clear and safe.
Thrills all the way !, nothing like it !!,but big very fast sweeping turns good too !
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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During our recent trip to Chamrousse, I went straight in a Schuss down a particularly steep part of a red (Niverolles for those who know the resort). It wasn't intentional - I simply lost the ability to turn (temporarily) and went down in a straight line, hanging on for dear life, bouncing over the moguls and praying silently under my breath. At the bottom if the steep bit it goes up again, and that slowed me enough to remember how to turn and stop. I've never been more scared in my entire life (and I've had some scary moments on fast motorcycles). Going straight can be fun 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I saw an interview once with one of the Bell brothers....his advice was to keep your jaw firmly shut because if you crash you do not want to bite through your tongue!
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Hah, I was noticing on the video of my day at Hemel that I seem to have spent the whole day biting my lip. A habit worth getting rid of so I don't come back one day with half my face bitten off
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Best suggestion... don't do it on short SL skis. GS skis (currently with r>35m) are shortest skis for me, that I even think on something like this, but if possible, I stay on SG skis if I there's really empty track, and I have wish (most of time ) for high speed (100+kmh).
Maybe if I wouldn't be skiing with GS and SG skis, I wouldn't be so "sensitive" about this, but SL skis (and they are World cup race stock skis) are just so soft and they vibrate so much at higher speed, that it really doesn't feel like fun for me. Not to mention, these skis are made to be on edge, and not on base, so they really restless when on base.
So if you have wish for going straight down, get proper skis first before even thinking on something like this. And after that, think if you are capable of skiing safely at 100+kmh.... most of people are not 
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Luckily most people's ring would be going before they got to that speed.
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| rungsp wrote: |
| I saw an interview once with one of the Bell brothers....his advice was to keep your jaw firmly shut because if you crash you do not want to bite through your tongue! |
good tip
I always take my false gnashers out before a really huge schuss.
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keep your jaw firmly shut
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Isn't that what the chin strap on your helmet is for
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musher, not really... at least if you have it set properly
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We schussed the bottom part of a pretty steep and icy Swiss black (below the Etherolla at Thyon), I don't think I've ever gone that fast in my life on skis, they are fairly stiff and were chattering like hell. Was still going fast over half a k away on the flat
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