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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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BCA have jus taken over Pieps haven't they? I'm not sure having the K2 accountants running everything is a good idea.
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| davidof wrote: |
| BCA have jus taken over Pieps haven't they? |
That's news to me if they have...
Any links or references?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Black Diamond bought Pieps.
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| I'm not sure having the K2 accountants running everything is a good idea. |
Its all very cool to knock big ski companies on the forumz.
However K2 are still a good company - have brought plenty to the ski world.
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Black Diamond have/are acquiring Pieps : http://www.blackdiamond-inc.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=118683&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1737587&highlight
I think Pieps got lost bringing the Vector to market and BCA have been late getting Tracker 3 out as well as struggling to impact with the Float airbag line - which was/is being heavily discounted in Europe along with the Tracker transceivers. Hence these sales.
Should be interesting - look at the ABS - North Face products for example.
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as well as struggling to impact with the Float airbag line
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Interested in that. While I have an ABS, the Float doesn't look like a bad product.
On a related note, I'm intrigued by the fact that the Float is "cheap" but still around the £500 mark. Aside from the trigger mechanism, most of the airbag parts are very similar to kit used by divers, although that stuff is a shedload cheaper. You can pick up an AP valves delayed surface marker buoy with inflation cylinder (basically the airbag and gas part of an airbag) for about £100.
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gorilla, The equipment is similar however not the same, therefore the economies of scale are reduced as the number of airbags being produced is still pretty small fry the price will remain highish. The Float is a great product but until the IATA regs changed on the 1st January 2013 it was not possible to fly with so restricted the sales very badly.
mishmash, Yep Campeur are a pain in the neck to other European retailers if I sold at the prices they sell at I would be losing money so no point really.
The small worry I have is that the airbag market will get too commercial the larger companies will see it as a great profit centre and keep the prices high, which will not benefit the end user. There are also rumours of an electric inflation system getting rid of the cylinder completely!
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| livetoski wrote: |
| There are also rumours of an electric inflation system getting rid of the cylinder completely! |
Yeah I had heard this as well (Black Diamond?) but I reckon it s a) BS and b) put out to blunt BCA sales in the US , which is where I had heard it from (specifically an Alsakan guide) .
What I am surprised at with the Float is that because of the ease of refill, none of the big European "fleet" airbag owners have gone for it yet - ie the big ski resorts . The "trainability" of it versus the ABS etc has to be an advantage.
I totally get you re V Campeur - at least they won't deliver to UK!
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| mishmash wrote: |
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| There are also rumours of an electric inflation system getting rid of the cylinder completely! |
Yeah I had heard this as well (Black Diamond?) but I reckon it s a) BS and b) put out to blunt BCA sales in the US , which is where I had heard it from (specifically an Alsakan guide) .
What I am surprised at with the Float is that because of the ease of refill, none of the big European "fleet" airbag owners have gone for it yet - ie the big ski resorts . The "trainability" of it versus the ABS etc has to be an advantage.
I totally get you re V Campeur - at least they won't deliver to UK! |
I'm not sure it's possible to use an electric inflation system. It simply won't be able to shift the volume of air fast enough. I CAN imagine an automatic electronic inflation trigger however, to remove the need to pull the toggle.
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"an electric inflation system." - I wondered if it might be chemical, electrically initiated. But forget flying then I guess....
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You know it makes sense.
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feef, mishmash, I heard it from a good source I will update when I know who is doing it and how it works
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