 Poster: A snowHead
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I have been skiing many years and have had the same problem with every pair of gloves I have bought. When you take the off the gloves the inner liner comes out with your hand and some of the inner fingers come out of some of the outer fingers. When you try and put them back on you have a real job getting the inners back into the fingers and end up with uncomfortable and ill fitting gloves. I have been trying gloves on in all makes at various shops and cannot find a pair where the inner is permanently attached to the outer and therefore will not suffer the same problem. Can anyone recommend a pair of gloves where this will not be an issue? Am I the only one who suffers from this?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Kaiser846, cut out the liners and get some nice silk or light fleece inner gloves. What you're looking for does exist . . . but they're as rare as rockinghorse poop.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Have had that problem with cheap gloves but not with my Hestras
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Davkt
Have been looking at Hestras, willing to pay £95 if they do the trick but if they don't £95 is a lot of dough! Current gloves are Salomon, might try cutting the inners out of them and going for the inner gloves.
Ta for advice
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Head ski gloves from Costco, excellent gloves, excellent price, no problems at all.
Less than £20.
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Kaiser846, get some venitex or kinco gloves. cheap as chips, and use a silk liner.
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Get gloves lined with fleecey fibre pile instead of the usual goretex'n'primaloft things. That way there's no lining to speak of, they'll come on and off easily even if your hands are cold and wet and they'll better when damp by way of a bonus.
Alternatively get gloves where the liners are designed to be removable, then at least they'll have been built with re-stuffing in mind. Its all good.
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Kaiser846, Have Hestra Skicross, short army (which can be found pretty cheap on ebay) and 3 finger Seth Morrisons, the Ski crosses are going into their 4th season, short armys their 3rd and 3 fingers are new but never had the lining pulling out during my couple of weeks a year in the mountains and regular trips to Tamworth fridge the rest of the year.
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Kaiser846, I've hands like hot, wet shovels so I've been down this route. Today I wear either winter cycling gloves and a wind/waterproof m/cycle overmitt when needed or leather work gloves and a sep/liner. I've always got some good fleece gloves too, left and forgotten in my pack for emergencies . . . usually end up losing them by giving them to people who have frozen wet nylon turning their fingers black 
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Leki gloves first class,
liners pull out of cheap ones that are not sewn in. I just bought some Salomon SL and too my amazement for £90 the little finger pulled out.
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Get the same issue with bike gloves. Turn them inside out, put a couple of stitches through the liner and the finger seam of the outer (you can usually feel it through the liner...). Turn right way out. Voila!
If that's too much effort, you can usually avoid messing up the liners if you pull each finger of the glove individually (to loosen them, if that makes sense?) before removing the whole hand.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thanks all, plenty to look at now.
Masque - my hands are always hot too perhaps that is why this always happens to me, must be a case of warm hands cold heart ha ha
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Get lighter gloves? I use Rab VR Tours unless it is quite chilly; they're quite thin and lightweight but still very wind and snowproof.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Kaiser846 wrote: |
| must be a case of warm hands cold heart ha ha |
Depends on where she asks you to put them 
I spent years trying to understand why my gloves always ended up like soggy, smelly dishcloths . . . now I layer as needed.
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Poster: A snowHead
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my hands are always hot
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so why would you even think about paying £95 for a pair?  If your hands are always hot, any old pair of gloves will do, shirley?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I've got a pair of mitts which have a totally separate under glove. Might work for you?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| davkt wrote: |
| Have had that problem with cheap gloves but not with my Hestras |
Totally agree. My heated have been fantastic all week. No liner issues and no cold hands.
115 euro in les menuires.
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A vote for the Hestra Heli here. Removable fleece lining means it's not an issue, but also means they can be washed and dried more easily.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hestra mittens. The end.
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hestra mittens with liners or naked?
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No need for liners. Unless you have Raynaud's disease?
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Don't think I have but had to google it just in case, not nice
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| Kaiser846 wrote: |
| my hands are always hot |
| Feast wrote: |
| No need for liners. Unless you have Raynaud's disease? |
Probably no need for mittens, either.
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| Kaiser846 wrote: |
| Don't think I have but had to google it just in case, not nice |
I've got a couple of friends with it. So unpleasant for them, even in cool weather. 
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Raynaud's is a syndrome, not a disease - you can't 'catch' it......
Pedant/off
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| Maersk wrote: |
Raynaud's is a syndrome, not a disease - you can't 'catch' it......
Pedant/off |
Fair point. 
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Another vote for the Hestra gloves here - I've got the Army Leather Heli Ski, and have never had a problem with the liner coming out when you don't want it to (though they are removable to dry out and wash). Expensive but (IMHO) worth it. I've written a fuller review here: http://www.snowgenius.com/gear/hestra-army-leather-heli-ski-glove/
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You know it makes sense.
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Not sure if this is the place to comment....but it's the only thread I can find about gloves and sewn in liners. I've a pair of leather salomon mitts (primaloft)....was assured by Snow and Rock they'll be the warmest gloves I'll ever own. Not convinced in the slightest. They have sewn in fingers.....so no room for my fingers to move about to increase circulation....I wear silk liners too.....barely any difference. Afternoon an hour or so I have to go and run my hands under warm water.
I've looked at snipped through the fingers....but they're firmly stocked inside. Even on trying turn them inside out...
Any solutions? Away in a couple of weeks. No budget left new ones...they cost around £100 to start with...
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It seems no-one has ever come up with the gloves to end all gloves, they need to be warm, comfortable, not deform when you take them off, enough cuff to stop the snow getting in, long lasting, not end up stinking like the back end of a yak after a week's use, and fit fingers that don't conform to average - for example my hands are a completely different shape to my mums - there is no way we can use the same gloves as our fingers are different lengths - then add in the problems of growing teens that don't fit anything on the market and who never seem to have warm hands.....................gloves!!? Don't talk to me about gloves! N.B. The answer is most certainly NOT Hestra's, when I look at the cash I have wasted on Hestras!..............
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Poster: A snowHead
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Megamum, my Hestras are the best ski gloves I've ever had. And I have had probably around 50 pairs...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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sarah, you think? Even after a year? I really had hoped they'd be the bees knees but they really aren't. Not much different from the first pair they sold me. Took those back but after a few weeks.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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alyefs, mmm perhaps not after a year really You would get better for £20 in TKMaxx.
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| cps26 wrote: |
| Another vote for the Hestra gloves here - I've got the Army Leather Heli Ski, and have never had a problem with the liner coming out when you don't want it to (though they are removable to dry out and wash). Expensive but (IMHO) worth it. I've written a fuller review here: http://www.snowgenius.com/gear/hestra-army-leather-heli-ski-glove/ |
Total agreement.
If cost is an issue get the Kinco ones, very good, but need breaking in.
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Kaiser846, I wonder if yours are similar to mine? How do you think you'd cut out the inners? Not sure I want to chance snipping into the important bits!
sarah, I fear you might be right...
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alyefs,
My daughter has the same problem with her not inexpensive Tog 24 gloves Cold hands and liners coming inside out. It must be a girl thing. Junior and I are OK with our Hestra's
Kaiser846,
I've got big hot shovels too, and size 11 Hestra gloves are great. Easy on/off and not too warm. Removable wooly liners can be taken out & washed or replaced with something thinner in the spring.
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musher, ahh....I don't have issues with the liners coming out, I think that's Kaiser846, problem. Mine aren't independent of the glove in the slightest...they're completely integral. I'm just trying to avoid forking for yet another duff pair when these are supposed to be top of the range ....as told by Snow and Rock (I'm not too sure about that!)
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Black Diamond Soloist. Never a problem and durable. On their 3rd season (50+ days).
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FAQ
but I just use the handle of a knife to push the finger linings back into the finger outers 
