Best advice I can give is to clean the oven first and keep checking every 60 seconds so that you see the liners soften as they get to the right temperature.
On my feet I wore ski socks, with two toe caps made from the toes of old wool socks. I pulled a pair of women's knee high tights over the top of the socks to hold the toe caps and the Superfeet insoles in place.
One of the times I lifted my toes up by standing on a couple of books, this certainly didn't make things worse, and may have helped the heel pockets to form.
I use heat moulded insoles when I'm skiing, but I used Superfeet Greens while moulding because of the risk of damaging the heat moulded insoles.
Final tip, do one boot at a time, less to worry about.
My girlfriend was a bit shocked when she looked in my oven and noticed that I'd cleaned it.
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Thanks so stick them in the oven at 150 degrees ish?
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I can confirm that the "rice" method described in the intuition thread above works fine (you can east the rice after too )
I'd read that one of the problems with heating the inners in the oven is that they're quite floppy when heated, so can be problems getting them back into the shells
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The rice method looks good, will try that with some of the wife's finest tights. Just need to find something thing to make a toe box.
Having said that I need some custom foot beds so I may just be cheeky and ask them to heat the boots at the same time.
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heat stacks and the rice method are ok but that is about as good as they are, really the only way to get a good mould on an intuition liner is the oven... 118 degrees is what our boot oven is set at, 10 minutes sometimes a little longer, the liner is then pulled over the foot (which should have the footbed taped to it and appropriate padding to the toes and any pressure points) the whole thing is then put inside a lycra sock and it goes into the shell, clips done up mid range to compress the liner.... it is tight as hell for the moulding process (or the boot was too big) but when the toe caps and padding are removed you should be left with a great fit
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CEM cheers.
Didn't think I would get my foot in the inner, then in to the shell, will give it a go first.
Will just have to think of something to make a toe box.
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I did a pair of boots using our oven just as CEM described. I found it a little tricky getting the foot and liner into the boot unaided which resulted in the liner getting a bit misshapen (more around the overlap than the foot). It's not a huge problem because of course you can do it again. In the end though I visited my local ski shop and got them to do it for me at the same time as they made me some new custom footbeds.
If you do it yourself I'd try to have someone help you pull the shell open as you slide your foot/liner in.
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Sounds a bit dicey- as you have saved so much money getting these fantastic boots, wouldn't it be better to get a ski shop with the right equipment to do it all for you and check it's all done and fitting correctly rather than chance it going wrong and having to shell out for a new set of liners ??
However there is nothing like experimentation - let me know if it works - if it's that easy perhaps I could start a home business from my kitchen
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Snowtogo - depends what you call dicey ? Heating a remould able liner on your foot inside a ski boot doesn't take expertise.
Remoulding a shell takes tools and experience.
Shops offer fitting services, indeed 2 shops have already quoted me £40 for 'fitting' the boots. When I asked what I would get for the £40. Well sir we will mould the liner boot to your foot.
When I said did this include altering the shell if needs be, no that would be extra. Does that include a footbed, no that would be extra. So in essence I am better doing the moulding at home and saving £40. If the boots don't fit well at that point then I may visit a shop. I dare say if I put them in my over at 270 it may do them no good.
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@FunkyDunc, if it does get screwed up in the oven you won't find someone to fix it for £40…let me explain the price…..it takes time to mould a liner…. 10mins prep, 10-15mins in oven depending on liner, 15 mins cooling time, then reassembly (and you will probably be upset if the fitter walks off to talk to other people during that time so you will want him/her all to yourself) if a shop is not moulding your liner they could be selling a pair of boots, which would make them more money, so why would they charge less.
you will be glad you didn't call me, we have a fixed price for what we call boot set up (boot not purchased from us) it is £55, for that we set cuff cant and mould liner/shell as appropriate, yup footbeds are extra, shell stretches and grinds are extra, and the service is NOT available at weekends….. maybe it is about time people realised that there is some level of skill involved in doing this stuff, my workshop has several thousand pounds worth of equipment in it to do the job professionally, we have rent, rates, electricity and staff to pay for, you go to a garage to get your car serviced what do you pay per hour there???? if a main dealer it can run to 3 figures per hour, why is a boot fitter worth anything less, after all it is your comfort and the enjoyment of your leisure time at stake!
unfortunately some stores have devalued boot fitting and charge £15 per hour or similar, but i guess if you want some kid off the street with a days training to do the job then that is what you get…. as someone commented on recent Facebook discussion that i was involved with " if you have £1000 and a free weekend you too can be a master boot fitter"
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