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The trans-hemisphere ski-safaris of James Cove (continued)

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Mr Piehole wrote:
Is there any ski website with a lower standard of journalism and content than Planetski?


And what's your contribution to this noble profession, Mr Piehole?

Don't get me started about journalism
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Planetski -v- TripAdvisor

http://www.planetski.eu/news/4431

Quote:
A new ski report from TripAdvisor says Mount Etna has the best value skiing in Europe.



http://youtube.com/v/gS9Z0EaaKUY
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Mr Piehole wrote:
Is there any ski website with a lower standard of journalism and content than Planetski?


I don't believe there is, now that you mention it.
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That's grossly unfair, and you know it. Planetski broke the best ski story of the year (if you're a Londoner)
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Comedy Goldsmith wrote:
That's grossly unfair, and you know it. Planetski broke the best ski story of the year (if you're a Londoner)


Well Snivel was pretty crap for time but I do believe Paulio is correct. What story are you referring to?
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That TripAdvisor survey in full
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/PressCenter-i5551-c1-Press_Releases.html


That TripAdvisor survey in full


Apologies for poor quality repro., due to general incompetence
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davidof, Planetski costs nothing for visitors, so what are you expecting - the Pulitzer Prize of Ski Journalism?

Don't be ridiculous. The only source of income for sites like that is advertising, so obviously it's going to be a bit of 'fun and games with James'.
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davidof wrote:
What story are you referring to?


Maybe you've been on another planet(ski - geddit?) recently, but there was the minor matter of 250 ESF instructors planning a flashmob in Parliament Square. As I recall, Planetski picked up on the tweet from the PR people that sparked the whole thing off. Admittedly the site didn't stay on top of the story - most of the buzz and linking to primary sources (Facebook etc) was happening here.

Though it should be said that Planetski was also the first site to report that the event had been cancelled.

Now, your own website www.pistehors.com last filed a news story on 25 October. Planetski usually files at least one story a day.

Maybe productivity is one test of a good journalist. In the meantime, if you're in an igloo don't use a flamethrower!
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Comedy Goldsmith, Now now, let's not drag otherwise amusing and entertaining threads down with your own, tirelessly expressed view of what is good or bad ski journalism.

BTW I stumbled across a book in Austria in a chalet, a predecessor of the Good Ski Guide or similar with the lowdown on the latest ski tech contributed by a Mr Goldsmith and some fashion nonsense by Felice Hardy under what I assume was her maiden name. Well worth reading for a lesson in aspirant middle class ski history.
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fatbob wrote:
...the lowdown on the latest ski tech contributed by a Mr Goldsmith...
that'll be screw-in edges and aluminium poles.
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fatbob, Eyston was Felice's maiden name.

It's davidof who decided to make harsh judgements over what is or isn't good ski journalism. Not me - I was just counter-reacting. As we've seen this morning, a couple of interesting pieces (just as examples) come from the Daily Mail - which I think picked up on the US story about the Jesus statue on a ski slope but improved it - and a US website reporting the surprise reopening of a ski resort.

There are no hard and fast rules. In general you get what you don't pay for, but the profession of journalism will continue and will somehow be paid for. Major UK news organisations are currently losing shedloads of money, and things will have to right themselves.

Lord Leveson will publish his views on the future of ski journalism at lunchtime. And there's infinite room for 'citizen journalism' and gossip, as we've discovered on this fascinating journey over the past couple of decades.


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Comedy Goldsmith wrote:
fatbob, Eyston was Felice's maiden name.

It's davidof who decided to make harsh judgements over what is or isn't good ski journalism.


To be fair, it was me.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
Well, OK, but if you post with a name like 'Mr Pietroll' is anyone going to take you seriously? Obviously people will take davidof seriously.
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You know it makes sense.
Haha, remember this?

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=86936&start=160#1989307
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Mr Piehole, why would I remember that childish piddle of twaddle? But now that you've reminded me of it, yes I do remember it.

I was probably respecting Patrick Thorne's copyright. He lives over 500 miles from here, I've never been in the same room with him (as far as I know) and he's not a mate of mine, matey - best, soul or check. That said, Patrick sounds like a really hard-working fun guy. According to Amazon he's written 11 books and has "three sons, three ponies, dog, cat, rabbit, 12 hens and an apricot tree".


Patrick Thorne, on the hill.
All together now: "On the first day of Christmas, my true love sent to me ... three sons, three ponies, dog, cat, rabbit, 12 hens and an apricot tree."
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Are you willing to insure James Cove?

Get on Facebook urgently - I think he's snowbound:

http://www.facebook.com/james.cove.7?fref=ts

James is a fine skier, BASI-qualified, and I've never seen him plastered.
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Update:

The fully-insured Cove is in love
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Comedy Goldsmith, I don't think you should be posting screenshots of James Cove's personal facebook posts on here. Presumably these are posts only intended to be read by people he has accepted as 'friends', not on a public forum.
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Ok, just checked and his fb profile is open. Still don't think you should post them on here tho.
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Sorry. I just thought it was beautiful that James had fallen in love with that fluffy fence, whose fleece is white as snow.
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Comedy Goldsmith, but I thought you were hot on copyright. Did you ask permission to reproduce his posts here, and what about the two who had commented on his post?
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I note he has asked for advice on ski travel insurance. Why didn't he just ask snowHead s? Laughing
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cathy, It's not his copyright but Facebook, and it's public soooo
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Not sure it's best to have Facebook screenshots here. Those who wish to see Facebook public pages can visit Facebook. Nothing wrong with a link to a FB page, in the context of a topic discussion, of course.
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It's for James to say what level of privacy he's seeking to enjoy with his Facebook friends, but with 741 of them he has clocked up double the number recommended by Men's Health [sorry, I'm trying to type this with a straight face] in terms of ...

... "the tipping point after which people were increasingly less happy with their lives".

http://news.menshealth.com/facebook-self-esteem/2012/02/12/

Now, James has always struck me as an enviously ebulient and good-humoured chap and my guess (since he's an experienced broadcaster) is that he's exploiting the publicity and entertainment value of Facebook rather than using it to communicate with an intimate circle. That's why I took the liberty, but I agree that Facebook is often a mode of semi-private communication.
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The sociable roving Cove has now been spotted in Venice, in the company of six women, in a water taxi. An excellent move - I recall doing the same on an early December trip to the Tecnica ski boot factory in the year dot. But I don't remember that trip attracting many women. Venice is a much more intriguing place in mid-winter, since there are far fewer tourists and you actually see some locals!

For privacy and copyright reasons the paparazzi photo of James Cove in the stretch water limousini will not be reproduced here, but it may be available on this click ...

http://www.facebook.com/james.cove.7?fref=ts


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Comedy Goldsmith, much better way of doing it. The British Library police are closing their file on this case wink
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For this week's live webcam update, James has decided to colour-coordinate and smile-coordinate with the gnome on the windowsill.

[PlanetPudding lands in Maria Alm, Austria]
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Comedy Goldsmith wrote:
Update:

The fully-insured Cove is in love



Who paid for the trip?
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Comedy Goldsmith wrote:
davidof wrote:
What story are you referring to?


Maybe you've been on another planet(ski - geddit?) recently, but there was the minor matter of 250 ESF instructors planning a flashmob in Parliament Square. As I recall, Planetski picked up on the tweet from the PR people that sparked the whole thing off. Admittedly the site didn't stay on top of the story - most of the buzz and linking to primary sources (Facebook etc) was happening here.

Though it should be said that Planetski was also the first site to report that the event had been cancelled.

Now, your own website www.pistehors.com last filed a news story on 25 October. Planetski usually files at least one story a day.

Maybe productivity is one test of a good journalist. In the meantime, if you're in an igloo don't use a flamethrower!



Planetski is a good mass-market website for general ski news.

Pistehors is one of the Web's best go-to sources for French offpiste news / info in English.

The recent coverage of the Tignes avvy was way better on PH than PS.
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Whitegold wrote:
Who paid for the trip?


None of your business.


http://youtube.com/v/Z78CDDG3mZY

Your question is answered at 2:48:

"I'm actually staying with a company called Powder Byrne ... an independent, specialist, fairly up-market company ... I've been treating myself, which is a very nice way to start the season."
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Comedy Goldsmith wrote:
Update:

The fully-insured Cove is in love


Just noticed that this picture isn't a hotlink and has, therefore, been grabbed and used by you without permission.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
PJSki, do keep up. We did that one days ago.....
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Jet-setting James is in Tignes. Here's the Planetski 'Christmas snow report'. No white beard and no Ho Ho Ho ... but a splendid Christmas Cove Carol of 'idiosyncratic vowel sounds' ...


http://youtube.com/v/2-hMSu-Qr8A&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.planetski.eu/news/4494
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Excellent report from James Cove in St Anton - his first visit since the mid-1990s ...


http://youtube.com/v/aXHgFi6Kmqg

I bumped into James at the House of Commons ... as you do ... last week. Here's his report on the BASI 50th anniversary lunch:

http://www.planetski.eu/news/4578

He's written the official history of BASI to mark the first 50 years, so that's eagerly awaited.
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[quote="Comedy Goldsmith"] Excellent report from James Cove in St Anton - his first visit since the mid-1990s ...

Half of JC's report on St Anton was about conditions elsewhere and a huge advertisement for the company who had supplied him with a free holiday.

He states nothing much has changed then mentions a couple of the huge changes they have made to the town.

What a load of nothing.
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As far as I'm concerned, anything from St Anton is gripping. Absolutely gripping. I've had incredible ski experiences there, especially in the all-day off-piste classes from the ski school (highly recommended).
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Nothing on Mount Etna on this thread except the one video of one little bit of a summer ascent of the main (actually very long) ski lift.
Piste map here (download to see detail) shows the whole mountain (but not the smaller resort on the other side) and shows that the lifts do not go very near the main crater, but a lava flow took out the lift a few years ago so it had to be rebuilt. I gather it is good for ski touring but those lava flows are very jagged big lumps = I'd be afraid to destroy my skis if the snow wasn't deep.
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I think the key point was that Mount Etna has "the best value skiing in Europe". TripAdvisor don't necessarily count the lifts+pistes in reaching that conclusion.

Certainly if your skis are wrecked or melted by lava it's not such good value.
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I've got a few Etna photos showing snow, taken April 1992. There's only one of somebody actually skiing



But as you can see, there is potential for some quite deep snow





Although you wouldn't want to get to close to the summit as it tends to be a bit too warm for snow to accumulate



There's not much in the way of lift infrastructure (not least because it sometimes gets engulfed in lava) but if you have one of these there's no problem



Of better still, one of these

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