Possible ebay scam -Snowpulse bags - beware

A snowHead

Hello all,

I feel for scam on ebay last month along with about 40 other people, looking at the feedback and items involved the toe-rag probably grossed about £25,000.
Paypal paid me out no problem so not to worried but i think he is at it again under a differant ebay user name, the obscure and un-related stuff this seller is selling and the layout of his listings are far to similar to the guy that had me, for them not to be the same person (obviosly in my opinion).
Two sellers both selling very cheap snowpulse air bags, £100 Clarisonic Mia Skin Cleansing System Kits and electronic blood pressure monitors !!!! Too much of a coincidence for my liking, I have reported it to ebay and they are looking into it.

The item number of the suspect listing is
281022465862

I suppose is yet again another example of "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't"

So i best save up and pay full uk price Sad

Regards,

A snowHead

Thanks for the heads up! And probably not a good idea to have your email addy as your location unless you like lots of spam!

Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?

qwertyuiop7,

Thanks for the heads up, I have been looking at Air Bags on EBay and with a start price of £300 I wouldn't have suspected anything.

He's also about to sell a transceiver.

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qwertyuiop7, thanks for the heads up cheeky F****ing little S*** has also pinched my text on the Avi transceiver, no problem last person who did that got into major trouble with ebay and PayPal

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qwertyuiop7, welshflyer, he is well reported the 3+ Transceiver he is selling has nothing to do with Snowshepherd, it never fails to amaze me how thick some people are when they copy text from a website and try and pass it off as there own Shocked

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I've reported it too - just for good measure!

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forgive me for being a little dim, but how does someone who has been selling on ebay for over 12 months with 100% feedback come across as dodgy?

i am not saying he is or isn't but hey ho.

As for copying item info from other sites, not condoning it but that happens on almost every listing on ebay, why rewrite a good review if it applies to your item is i guess the thinking.

So tell me why this is obviously a scam seller?

After all it is free

The most obvious clue is that he / she has ripped off livetoski's (Snowshepherd's) descriptions for their listing in such a lazy way that they haven't even taken out the name of the real retailer!! I'm sorry but that makes them dodgy (and fairly stupid) IMV. It could also be seen as the illegal practice of 'passing off' i.e. trying to look as if you could be one of your competitors in order to trade off their better reputation.

If the OP had their money refunded by PayPal, that would also indicate they were not quite Kosher.

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ansta1,

I agree, lazy I might be, stupid scammer I'm not (at least not the second bit)

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so, no evidence that its a scam, other than stupid not very clever copying of item info, the airbag is on an open auction and not a low price buy it now, so if it is a real auction and not a scammer then he could just get a firend to bid up to his minmum price in the last 2 minutes so he gets what he wants, or loses very little.

As i said i am not saying this isnt a scam, and definite poaching from snowshepherd site info it seems, but a first time poster who has a user id of qwertyuiop7 slam dunks a seller and he gets killed in a web searchable and open forum.

hmmmmm..

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Scampi Dellahanti, Many thanks for the kind words, as you say the description the ebayer used is a breach of my copyright on Snowshepherd, the description on the transceivers is 100% mine and was written very early on, in fact I think I was one of the first on the net with it, I have had lots of people copy it and include the Snowshepherd name, including a couple of rather large retailers who were very embarrassed that their web designers had copied text like this, and I agree the passing off is a major crime these days.

ansta1, Yep loads of ebayers and retailers copy text from manufactures sites and this without the permission of the manufacturer of a product is copyright infringement, in the most serious cases this can not only come back on the retailer but also the site that hosts the items such as ebay, ebay hate it as it cost them mega bucks over the years as many major brand names have successfully sued ebay over this, one of the reasons you do not see certain brands being sold on ebay as new items from retailers.

Another interesting thing about this listing was that it did not flag up on my Google Alerts for "Snowshepherd" or my key line alerts setup with Google of which due to past history the particular transceiver has. I also have the same thing on many images on my site as these have been created or edited to be a specific format in order to get the colour correct, and the product looking correct, again there is a water mark which is very difficult to spot, when I see another person has copied one of my images then they get a very polite email telling them to remove it.

IMHO then the lazy people deserve to get caught and made to account for their laziness, as they say "ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law"

You know it makes sense.

livetoski,

couldnt agree more about stealing stuff from other peoples websites and dont start me on the number of copyright infringement emails i have sent out to individuals, small and very large companies (its the big ones that really try it on)

I am just saying that i dont see a 100% correllation between lazy/stupid and scammer. As of right now other than the OP's first post on this forum and who hasn't contributed further about the original issue (feel free to provide more qwertyuiop7) The ebay feedback suggests this is a genuine seller.

Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:

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A snowHead

ansta1, It's always good to check the actual feedback left by buyer/sellers for any ebay account holder. Some East Asian Ebayers buy/sell to or within a group each building up high ratings in preparation for a scam if not multiple scams.
As Ebay has become very strict about authenticity and frequently limits the number of "designer" items any person can list at any one time, they may just start taking a look at high end costly sporting goods.

Advice ............... only pay through PayPal.
Always claim if item not received by day 30. Never be fobbed off with promises of item being sent again, it's just a delay tactic to get past the time length you can request a refund.

More advice ........... don't buy out of China unless you can afford to lose.

Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?

As a seller - if a buyer pays by paypal do not then let them collect in person. We got stung this way, in that they'd hacked an account to 'pay' us, then said they were in the area could they come and collect it. The person whose account was hacked got refunded. We got nought, lost the item with no money. If they want to collect they have to pay in cash when they arrive.

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qwertyuiop7,

Had a look at that link, yes he / she has taken a lot of people, a lot off paypal ? Interesting to see that ebay seems to have blanked off / removed all the positive feedback because I was just wondering how long he / she built up that positive feedback over. I tend to use that as an indicator myself, rightly or wrongly, as to whether they are worth the chance.

skimastaaah,
"Advice ............... only pay through PayPal.
Always claim if item not received by day 30. Never be fobbed off with promises of item being sent again, it's just a delay tactic to get past the time length you can request a refund.

More advice ........... don't buy out of China unless you can afford to lose."

You are right, those 2 are real golden rules. To be fair though I have bought many small items from China with very few problems there are a lot of genuine traders out there. I noticed this person was selling,or pretending to sell, some high end forks. I bought some quite expensive bike components, but way below UK cost, direct from Taiwan several years ago, that guy is still trading and the parts I bought are still going well. Very Happy

It is reassuring to see that ebay does appear to have taken some action in this case and people seem to have got, relatively, quick refunds from paypal. One of the negative feedbacks was for a late September purchase and he had already been refunded.

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skimastaaah,

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musher, I think it must be not much more than 6 items in any 30 day period. Those items usually fall into highend accessories and clothing. I've tried to sell some genuine Rayban sunglasses, they removed the listing saying the glasses infringed the Ebay Truth and Vero policies. I got a Paul Smith suit they won't let me list because I've sold too many "designer" items this month.

That certainly puts in context any Ebay Scammer who manages to get £30,000 out of unsuspecting would-be-buyers. Having fallen for a previous non-UK scammer I can certainly have sympathy with anyone who has been hit by a bad/non (SNAD/INR) buy.

Always pay by PayPal, always claim as soon as you think there may be an issue. You can subsequently refund or not. AND....... be persistent!

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Caveat emptor, as they say.

Sometimes it feels like the fringes of the web are just full of people wanting to cheat and swindle. Very good you got the money back.

After all it is free

right phillip lets deal with a fact first shall we.

at the time the post of mine that has been quoted above was being written, yours posted at 22:52 and mine at 22:56. As your and my post crossed in the metaphorical ether you had provided no further information or details at the time of writing.

now if you feel that post has defamed or slandered your reputation then i apologise for hurting your feelings. At no stage did i say
"quertyioup7" is a liar, i just made it clear that based on what i could see it wasnt clear that this seller was scamming anyone and whilst others and yourself have posted further information i can see some of the reasoning behind this assessment.

Anyone providing information that helps stop people being scammed is always welcome here but what does also happen in forums such as this is people use them as a moaning board if they have not been happy for some reason with the product or service they got. The reasons may be complicated and not always clear cut, but people are people and they can be vindictive.

If they are scammer, as the opinion seems to be, then a collective thankyou for identifying it and hopefully saving a few folks money.

It is up to you if you choose to continue to post or just read, either way if you have read the forum for a while you will understand the nature of forums and i wont be held responsible for your interpretation of my posts.

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qwertyuiop7, I think you should keep posting. Sometimes misunderstandings happen and it's easy to get annoyed about something that can be interpreted in a way that the writer didn't really intend. Mostly people here are quite friendly and just interested in skiing/boarding. Although like anywhere there are a few wind-up merchants and just plain toskers, but best just to ignore them. The more people that post the better the forum will be. I for one was grateful for your post.

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skimastaaah,

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