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... with quite a straightforward name: http://www.warrenmiller.com
There's a hot trailer on there for his latest movie this autumn: Higher Ground. Don't know if the old man is still doing the corny commentary - his voice was getting a bit tired and ragged last year. He's long retired from the film-making itself, and I believe the company is now in new hands. The quality of camerawork and skiing remains top-class, which is the main thing!
The dates for UK showings of the movie are here: http://www.warrenmiller.co.uk . They commence on 22 October at the Ptarmigan restaurant on Cairngorm, hosted by www.winterhighland.com . If anyone sees it at that great location please post a review of the evening!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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As mentioned here a couple of days back - the Higher Ground video also has some footage of Chelone Miller, Bode's brother, who had a terrible motorbike accident last Friday. He's still in a coma apparently, can't be easy for Bode training in Austria, not able to get back to visit him...
[update: the Beeb suggests Bode is in fact at his brother's bedside, having delayed his return to Austria...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Nice trailer - particularly liked the skiing fireman!
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| PG wrote: |
| As mentioned here a couple of days back - the Higher Ground video also has some footage of Chelone Miller, Bode's brother, who had a terrible motorbike accident last Friday. He's still in a coma apparently, can't be easy for Bode training in Austria, not able to get back to visit him... |
Also mentioned here on SnowHeads in this topic.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Say what you like. You usually do. The lead came from the US Ski Magazine's e-newsletter, dated 11.10.2005. I'm not aware that copying comes into it. It's generally known in the news trade as 'getting a story'.
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Cheap shot. The story was sourced from Ski Magazine. Got the newsletter?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Yawn.
Do we have to keep having comments like: 'as I said previously here...' and then links to mysnowsports.com? I'm getting fed up with clicking on links only to be continually referred there. It's like something being force fed to you. I wish the website all the best and I hope it grows and is successful but I'm getting tired of the constant promotion of it here. And the rivalry over who said what on which site first. And why make inferences that David is trawling MSS for news items to reproduce here? David and PG probably both get the same press releases or whatever so just chill.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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There is actually a reasonably (and I wouldn't wish to over-emphasise it) serious journalistic point here. PG reported Bode Miller as "training in Austria", when in fact he was in the States at his brother's bedside. It would be pretty amazing for him to be anywhere else, in the circumstances.
To then "update" the posting, rather than "correct" it, with the words "the Beeb suggests Bode is in fact at his brother's bedside" is also somewhat disrespectful to the BBC's reporting.
They are not "suggesting" this - they are reporting it, as a fact.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
There is actually a reasonably (and I wouldn't wish to over-emphasise it) serious journalistic point here. PG reported Bode Miller as "training in Austria", when in fact he was in the States at his brother's bedside. It would be pretty amazing for him to be anywhere else, in the circumstances.
To then "update" the posting, rather than "correct" it, with the words "the Beeb suggests Bode is in fact at his brother's bedside" is also somewhat disrespectful to the BBC's reporting.
They are not "suggesting" this - they are reporting it, as a fact. |
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You know it makes sense.
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Sure, Al. Have a cocoa.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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A well-argued rebuttal to my well-reasoned criticism 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Even a geriatric Warren Miller script is funnier than this.
Here's his serious side - an interview with the 80-year-old stirrer - from Mountain News "The Industry Report"
Two Warren Miller quotes:
"If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing."
"Don't take life seriously because you can't come out of it alive."
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
There is actually a reasonably (and I wouldn't wish to over-emphasise it) serious journalistic point here. PG reported Bode Miller as "training in Austria", when in fact he was in the States at his brother's bedside. It would be pretty amazing for him to be anywhere else, in the circumstances.
To then "update" the posting, rather than "correct" it, with the words "the Beeb suggests Bode is in fact at his brother's bedside" is also somewhat disrespectful to the BBC's reporting.
They are not "suggesting" this - they are reporting it, as a fact. |
Given that there were several on line media reports "suggesting" the opposite - ie stating categorically that Bode Miller was unable to be with his brother and was actually in Austria - just whose reports should be taken as gospel then? The Beeb, just because they're the Beeb?
DG, a big yawn from me too.
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Let's see the "on line media reports" you refer to.
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| PG wrote: |
| DG, a big yawn from me too. |
Oh no, I've unleashed a monster 
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Skiing magazine
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Bode Miller, last season’s World Cup overall champion and the first American to win the crown since 1983, was not able to visit his brother. With the impending Winter Olympics in Torino, Italy, the elder Miller has been traveling the world and training five days a week.
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Etc etc etc...
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Don't worry, Al. Have a nightcap on me.
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PG. A couple of points:
Firstly, where's the second report? [I'm being a little pedantic now, but you said there was more than one report that he was in Austria]
Secondly, where does the Skiing Magazine report say that he was in Austria?
On your point about the BBC, their journalism is generally very reliable because it is usually multi-sourced and checked. [I believe that Andrew Gilligan (who felt obliged to resign) was right that Blair's people "sexed up" the dossier that helped send us to war in Iraq, as one example]
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Cathy, have a coffee, if you're at work.
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from me too
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You know it makes sense.
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David Goldsmith, so predictable. I was waiting for that. So here it is.
From Sporever.fr, report dated yesterday. It's very specific:
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Rien de physique en ce qui concerne Bode Miller mais tout aussi grave. Alors qu’il débutait ses entraînements à Sölden, lieu de sa première victoire en Coupe du monde la saison dernière, le vainqueur de l’Overall 2005 apprend que son jeune frère Chelone a été victime, deux jours après son arrivée en terre autrichienne, d’un accident de vélo chez lui à Franconia (USA). Le jeune homme, 22 ans, aurait immédiatement été évacué par hélicoptère vers l’hôpital le plus proche. Actuellement dans le coma, son état serait jugé plus que préoccupant par les médecins.
Un véritable choc pour le leader de l’US Ski Force qui aurait choisi, malgré tout, de poursuivre son périple européen avant de repartir pour les Etats-Unis où débutera, fin novembre, la tournée américaine. « Il ne fera aucun commentaire à la presse et ce, probablement, jusqu’à l’épreuve de Sölden a précisé Phil McNichol, l’entraîneur de l’équipe américaine interrogé par le DenverPost. Tout cela va probablement lui peser beaucoup les jours qui viennent mais je pense que une fois en Europe, une fois à l’entraînement, une fois prêt à partir, il va redevenir Bode. Il a une manière bien à lui de se protéger du monde. Ce modus operandi va probablement lui permettre de se sortir de cette situation mieux que n’importe quelle autre personne. »
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I saw a couple of others as well. How many would you like, exactly?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| PG wrote: |
| How many would you like, exactly? |
I believe 2.35 is the accepted number in journalistic circles. Or I might have made that up.
Ding ding. Round 346.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Always unwise to challenge someone unless you are certain they can't come up with the goods. I think PG has now demonstrated he has got the goods.....
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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alan empty,
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Ding ding. Round 346
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Where did you get your ticket for this event?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Two. We have them.
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| snowbunny wrote: |
| Where did you get your ticket for this event? |
Damn, I've been busted. OK, I blagged the ticket. Now that you know that I'm a freeloader does this mean I no longer have any journalistic integrity?
*looks around the thread* Have we derailed this yet?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| alan empty wrote: |
| Now that you know that I'm a freeloader does this mean I no longer have any journalistic integrity? |
No, that makes you a professional hack.
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| rob@rar.org.uk wrote: |
| alan empty wrote: |
| Now that you know that I'm a freeloader does this mean I no longer have any journalistic integrity? |
No, that makes you a professional hack. |
Flatterer!
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| alan empty wrote: |
| PG wrote: |
| How many would you like, exactly? |
I believe 2.35 is the accepted number in journalistic circles. |
Excuse me Alan! I take offence! I am definitely NOT a journalist (unprofessional or otherwise). Never have been, never intend to be. (DG will provide references if required).
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How many references?
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Good question. A minimum of two, there's a whole selection of them that can be copied here
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PG, I can't believe somebody bought the domain name businessballs and then used it sensibly. I was all sat back ready for an afternoon of reading stupid reference letters!
Anyway, congratulations. You're hired.
Yours disappointed,
Mr. Empty
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