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Second pair of skis for my quiver.. cheap-ish and for piste

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Hi snowheads!

I currently have Salomon Twenty Twelve skis, but they're basically not that good on the piste.. at all... As soon as I get some serious speed piling it down a red, the edges start to slip out...

I'd like to get hold of a set of skis specifically for carving.

My question is this; what is a good length for an aggressive carving ski? And should I be looking at GS skis?

My details: Height 5'9", weight: 65kg/10st/145lbs, Ski style, pretty fast/aggressive and want to go everywhere, but looking to develop on-piste skills more- and already have good off-piste/park sticks.

Any pointers would be really helpful. Currenty have my eye on Kastle LX 82 and Fischer XTR. 170 seems by far most common length.. Is 170cm too long?
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I think 165 might be a better length if you are looking to develop skills, but 170 might work too. It depends. With 165 it will be easier to work the full length of a ski.
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clong wrote:
As soon as I get some serious speed piling it down a red, the edges start to slip out...

Is 170cm too long?[/b]
I wouldn't have thought so if you want to do this at speed. Isn't 165 more a slalom length?
Not that I know much - I am an off piste skier and find my Missions do quite well on the piste. Many, many years since I bought racing skis.


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clong, Please don't take this the wrong way, but I suspect it's more down to technique than the ski.

Can you explain more about how "the edges start to slip out"??

I don't think a new ski will fix this for you, a lesson or two would though IMHO

Alternately try a few skis if you can before buying...

A quick google shows some folk saying this about the 20 12:

"On groomers I found the skis to have solid edge control"

"have 80-percent edge contact when you tip it on edge for catch-free carving in hardpack"
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Horses for courses:) Park skis are not enjoyable on groomers, although skiable.
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clong, get some 165 sl skis & slow down a little bit will be good for technique! I would stay away from gs skis at 170 as they will be Jr ones.

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clong wrote:
My details: Height 5'9", weight: 65kg/10st/145lbs, Ski style, pretty fast/aggressive and want to go everywhere, but looking to develop on-piste skills more- and already have good off-piste/park sticks.


you need my Vists, your leg would break before they left the tracks Laughing
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Thanks for all the advice guys,

Quote:

"have 80-percent edge contact when you tip it on edge for catch-free carving in hardpack"


That perfectly sums up my issues- because of the positive(?) camber on the skis, which is great for off piste, you have to really work the skis on their edges to get them to hold on the piste, much more so that one would do with a normal ski, and even that only gives you 80%! So of my 171's, i've only got 136 actually working for me!

so 165 looks to be a good length. Perhaps I do also need some lessons... What does SL stand for?
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SL - Slalom
GS - Giant Slalom
DH - Downhill
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