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Look Pivot/Rossi FKS bindings and tree wells...

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Normally to release the bindings by poking the heel piece with the pole you have to get it in between the sticky-up heel bit and your boot because the top has only a big slotted adjuster screw which is a bit of a pain - so much so it is often easier to stand on them. I found doing this upside-down, covered in snow, dangling in a tree-well is really quite tricky! Shocked
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How did you get out of the tree well?

And how did you get into it in the first place?
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Walter-Spitty wrote:
How did you get out of the tree well?


Eventually with enough poking around and the help of the guy I was skiing with, got the skis off, much easier to get out without skis on. Smile

Walter-Spitty wrote:
And how did you get into it in the first place?


Skied round a corner in some tight trees to find aforementioned friend waiting there, tried to go round him, ran out of snow...
It was more of a tree ledge than a well in this case (sort of like half a tree well, since the other half was off the edge of a bit of a drop, and hence a bit less worrying, but getting in/out of it ws much the same as being upsdide down in a standard tree well.

Really quite like the Pivot/FKS bindings, but this is certainly a bit of an issue for me. In this case it was relatively easy to be calm since it wasn't really a complete tree well, and there was someone to help right there, so I could take the time to think about getting the bindings popped, but I've been in worse spots...
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Surely a lever between the ski and boot (presumably in the gap in the centre) would generate enough force to be able to pop you out of the binding? You were hanging upside down by your skis and they didn't release? What DIN setting are you running? Sounds pretty unpleasant.
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Monium wrote:
Surely a lever between the ski and boot (presumably in the gap in the centre) would generate enough force to be able to pop you out of the binding? You were hanging upside down by your skis and they didn't release? What DIN setting are you running? Sounds pretty unpleasant.


Yes, it does eventually pop them, but is pretty awkward to do - even when the right way up.
My other rossi axial bindings, markers , and sollies, all have an indentation directly on top you can just push down on directly - fks/pivot has it on what is effectively the side so much harder to get to.
My DIN is high enough not to fall out easily (ironically a big advantage of these bindings is that actually you can run a lower din becasue they are super elastic). Even with a lower DIN you probably wouldn't want to try and pull/twist youself out of the bindings as big movements risk you going in the well further and burying yourselft more.

In this case, I wasn't really hanging from my skis, just I was in a bit of a hole, and they were kind of at the top in a branch.
I've done a bit of "practice" falling in tree wells and this one wasn't really too much of a problem or too worrying - though it does highlight the advantages/importance of sticking close to your tree skiing buddies (possibly too close in this case which caused the issue in the first place! snowHead )
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