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Kithzbuel Alpen all star pass, what buses are covered
Does anybody know if it is just a dedicated Ski Bus, that is covered by this pass, or does the pass cover you for "Post Bus"
Is the post bus the same as Ski Bus
We are hoping to use between Kirchberg and various part of Ski Welt
are there Ski Buses operating etween Ski Welt and Kirchberg
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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In Saalbach, which is covered by the Kitzbuel Alpen all star pass, there are two types of bus; Ski Bus and Post Bus.
The Ski Bus runs between the various lifts and is covered by the lift pass. The Post Bus is the regular service that runs between the towns (in this case Hinterglemm-Saalbach-Maishofen-Zell am See) and is NOT covered by the All Star Pass (or the local ski pass). I suspect it is the same in the other resorts covered by the Pass.
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does the pass cover some of the train journey between resorts
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The KitzAlps web site says "Free ski bus use with the All Star Card according to terms for the relevant ski region.". I presume that does mean just the ski buses and not the Post buses. This page gives more details of the ski buses in the area. I think you should be able to use the route 'Wörgl-Hopfgarten im Brixental-Kitzbühel' to get you to Brixen for entry to the SkiWelt (Brixen->Söll, Scheffau, etc. on the north side, Brixen->Westendorf on the south side), although where it says "...only free as far as Brixen" it isn't clear to me whether that is from Kitzbühel/Kirchberg or from Wörgl (or in both directions). Note that many of the buses only run on workdays (usually Mon-Sat) and they don't run that frequently.
You could also get the ski bus going to Aschau from Kirchberg to take you to the KiWest lift and get into the Westendorf area from there (or ski from Kirchberg over to the Pengelstein I bottom station and take the same bus from there, though that would take longer).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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espri, mate of mine was told by a Westendorf local last week that the All Star card covered the bundes bus, would that be the post bus?
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does the pass cover some of the train journey between resorts
Apparently train covered between St Johann and Kirchberg/ Kitz 08:00 to 18:30
Not sure if other trains are covered, seems strange just St Johann and Kirchberg/ Kitz covered and not others ?
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Just got an email this am, from tourist board ;
"just post bueses run between Westendorf and Kirchberg, they are FOC" for lift pass holders
(I not sure, but I assume they run to Kitz as well)
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e.g. wrote: |
espri, mate of mine was told by a Westendorf local last week that the All Star card covered the bundes bus, would that be the post bus? |
I presume the Bundesbus is the Postbus. If you look at the timetables given by the second link on my earlier post, you will see that some of those buses (actually Postbuses) are also marked as Skibuses. My understanding is that these are the ones where the ski pass allows free travel (at times when skiers might travel all the buses are Skibuses).
As dublin1 says, it is also possible to travel between St. Johann and Kirchberg via Kitzbühel using the lift pass during the day. Whether that is very useful, I don't know, for the stations in St. Johann and Kirchberg are a bit away from the lifts. But in Kitzbühel the Hahnenkamm station is right by the gondola, so if you can get to the station in St. Johann or Kirchberg (and the train stops at the Hahnenkamm), it would be one way to travel.
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Hi Espri
The train at St Johann, it it walkable to the nearest ski lift, or is there a ski bus connection from train to lift
We will have ski boots on and carrying a set of skis
Thanks
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dublin1 wrote: |
Hi Espri
The train at St Johann, it it walkable to the nearest ski lift, or is there a ski bus connection from train to lift
We will have ski boots on and carrying a set of skis
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i haven't been yet to st johann (go on saturday) however looking at google maps train station looks to be about 200m from where i think the gondola is.. could be wrong tho.
doesn't look too bad a walk.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=St+Johann+in+Tirol,+Austria&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=47.514389,12.427683&spn=0.01942,0.049567&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=17.445083,50.756836&oq=st&vpsrc=6&hnear=St+Johann+in+Tirol,+Kitzb%C3%BChel+District,+Tyrol,+Austria&t=h&z=15
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Thx Mugen
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dublin1 wrote: |
The train at St Johann, it it walkable to the nearest ski lift, or is there a ski bus connection from train to lift |
Can't honestly answer that, never having done it. If there is a pedestrian tunnel that can bring you out on the south side of the station, it might not be too bad (though a bit more than 200m, I suspect). If there is no tunnel (or access from the tunnel to the Harschbichl gondola) and you have to walk down by the main street, it would be quite a long slog.
I would guess that the ski bus does call at the station but I'm not 100% sure.
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I called in at the Harschbichlbahn in St. Johann today and asked about walking from the station. According to the lady there you have to take the route via the main street, which is quite a long way. The ÖBB web site seems to say that the foot route is 1 km and takes 12 minutes.
She also gave me a leaflet about the ski buses. Though I found it difficult to understand, I believe there is a ski bus from the station to the Harschbichl gondola at 08:48, 09:12, 09:48, 10:48 (and more). There may be other buses too that I haven't found. I guess you would be best to ask when you get there and, at the worst, you'll have to walk (or take a taxi).
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You know it makes sense.
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One more thing: looking for the weather on the St. Johann web site just now, I found this page with a link to download the brochure I was given yesterday (the Fieberbrunn bus also runs from the station in St. Johann to the Harschbichl lift, 09:17, 10:17).
Snowing quite heavily here just now!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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espri wrote: |
One more thing: looking for the weather on the St. Johann web site just now, I found this page with a link to download the brochure I was given yesterday (the Fieberbrunn bus also runs from the station in St. Johann to the Harschbichl lift, 09:17, 10:17).
Snowing quite heavily here just now! |
espri your a mine of useful information. Thanks for all this info you provide.
in st johann tomorrow...
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Poster: A snowHead
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espri wrote: |
The [url=http://www.allstarcard.at/en/informationgeneral-terms.html]I think you should be able to use the route 'Wörgl-Hopfgarten im Brixental-Kitzbühel' to get you to Brixen for entry to the SkiWelt (Brixen->Söll, Scheffau, etc. on the north side, Brixen->Westendorf on the south side), although where it says "...only free as far as Brixen" it isn't clear to me whether that is from Kitzbühel/Kirchberg or from Wörgl (or in both directions). |
I think last year the timetbale stated it was only valid as a ski bus between Wörgl and Brixen, however this year there appeats to be no restriction listed on the time table, and they have a put the stop at Hahnenkamm back on this route (didn't stop at Hahnenkamm last year). Plenty of people using the bus for Kitzbühel/Kirchberg to Brixen earlier this month when I was there, so I don't know if the comment on the website is left over from last year!
dublin1 wrote: |
The train at St Johann, it it walkable to the nearest ski lift, or is there a ski bus connection from train to lift
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When I've wanted to go and Ski S Johann by train, I've always got off at Oberndorf and used the Bauernpenzing gondola. It's much less of a walk!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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currently in St johann and just back from kitz. gettting off at oberndorf is more sensible.
ski bus does stop at hahnenkamm but christ it was standing room only from kirchberg. anyway back tomorrow for more, then off the ellmau
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