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EuanFraser, I don't know, you need someone more qualified than I am to comment. Sorry.
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Euan - I'd say yes - pretty much
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and in Serre Che this week.
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Both very nice, especially after only 3 weeks, keep it up Happy
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AJQ, jedster, thanks a lot for your comments! We definitely will- we are already researching where would be good to go next year. Only 10 months to go! Very Happy rolling eyes
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I put together a video last spring to show expert skiers and filmed skiers that I trained with or have coached. At the end of the season got thinking that I picked well in that one passed the L4 tech exam and got her ISTD instructor award this year, one did the double and passed the Eurotest and ISTD this season, one passed the L4 Technical exam and one little charger was selected to the British National Alpine ski team...

Can you see who ? Congrats Hels, Amy, Rob and Anna snowHead snowHead

https://vimeo.com/88280166


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and a little blooper reel

https://vimeo.com/88334672
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some video footage of a skier I would put at 13 on the Inside Out Skiing levels taken at the SnowCentre in Hemel.
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a bump to say that we have updated our levels guide and now have a set of guidelines for Off-Piste Levels

http://www.insideoutskiing.com/offpistelevel.html
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I see i'm still racking up the video royalties Laughing Laughing

Rather worryingly, i was a level 9 in 2011, I'm not sure i'm any better 8 years on...... Laughing
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@Timberwolf, Due to a lack of coaching I would hazard a guess NehNeh
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@skimottaret, as soon as i pressed 'submit' , i knew what was coming next wink

Ok, i'll take a look at what you have on offer ( again ) Toofy Grin
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Someone needs to set up an Après-Ski Level Guide. wink
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Question: Is it possible to be an 11 onpiste, and a 10 offpiste - Would i then be a 10? I am not perfectly happy with all conditions offpiste (very heavy snow), but ski anything onpiste fast and with good technique.
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@DanishRider, The general skiing level and off piste guidelines are meant to be separate but complimentary.
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@skimottaret, I was just thinking that the references to off-piste could perhaps be omitted from the other guidelines now. I have been having coaching (!) thanks to which my piste skiing has gradually been improving through your levels. However, I have now - regretfully - decided no longer to try and get myself properly off-piste, my fitness isn't and now never will be adequate, so the references to off-piste are irrelevant to me. But I don't feel strongly about this, it's just a thought.
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@Hurtle, Not sure about that as you go further along in your skiing journey most tend to try out activities beyond piste skiing. In my experience skiers (who are keen to progress and take lessons) get more mileage under their belts and tend to splinter off a bit into areas they find most enjoyable and drift into some form of "specialist" skiing. Off piste is the obvious one, bump skiing is another, others may take up racing and excel at firm snow skiing on piste, others love ski mountaineering with ropes and crampons, some gentle ski touring, hut to hut stuff involving navigation, etc... Some even prefer to have a go at other disciplines such as boarding, telemarking, and leave alpine altogether.

Others decide they love the mountains and are content with doing what cruising around on piste and enjoying a good lunch (me Wink )

Continuing to have a general levels guide complimented by more specific guidelines makes sense to me. snowHead
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@DanishRider, 11 on piste is very very decent, what qualifications do you have?? Have you done any IASI training??
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@DanishRider, 11 on piste is very very decent, what qualifications do you have?? Have you done any IASI training??

No freaking idea, apart from watching the video, been skiing +6 weeks a year since age 5 - 42 now Happy ... Also been Living i New England for some time. That is why i asked the question:-)
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kitenski wrote:
@DanishRider, 11 on piste is very very decent, what qualifications do you have?? Have you done any IASI training??

No freaking idea, apart from watching the video, been skiing +6 weeks a year since age 5 - 42 now Happy
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@DanishRider, I'd want to be at least an 11 with that amount of on snow time!
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@DanishRider, I'd want to be at least an 11 with that amount of on snow time!


Surely you have at least that amount of snow time ( minus the lunches of course wink )
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But to be fair - the question was if it was possible - NOT a claim of me being a Pro Happy
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@Dave of the Marmottes, I should have said, "if I were you", perhaps... it may not have read quite as I expected.

I have no idea, nor do i care what level I am... *

* For baser elements of my psyche, this may not strictly be true...

As for on snow time, I think I am probably at around 1,500 on-snow days by now (did not count artificial slope days of which I could guess at about 200) ? as you say though, some of them may have included more lunching than others... wink as a counter, I reckon a season with 5-6 days a week, all day on skis, amplifies the benefits of those days as you're intensifying the practice.
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Seasons definitely move you on. Rest is about managing decline....
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@Dave of the Marmottes, on which, 6 individual weeks are good, 3 x 2 weeks are better, etc. Or, just pop out whenever the snow or weather look good out the window?

Having spent the last 5 years working myself into an early grave for precious little reward, I am looking forwards to a season where I don't actually have a day job and I intend to do exactly that ... he he he ... with skating if it's grey and dry...

Actually that's another point, my skiing was better maintained once I started blading 2 or 3 times a week - simiar dynamic balance.
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Just a fun aside, one of the skiers in the L11 expert video changed sports and was on the tele in the the recent Cycling world championships. We emphasised multi sport training and after a bad injury used cycling to rehab and she found her true sporting love. Well done Anna !
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(Of course, an extra level up for post-lunch naps in the sun)
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Just a fun aside, one of the skiers in the L11 expert video changed sports and was on the tele in the the recent Cycling world championships. We emphasised multi sport training and after a bad injury used cycling to rehab and she found her true sporting love. Well done Anna !


Anna Henderson? I assume not Annemiek van Vlueten NehNeh
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Not that it is important to most people but the Level 12 Athletes & Instructor Trainers is really too narrow. It leaves out talented amateurs. I have never been a full time professional though in 1980 I was a part time instructor. I don't ski that much, between 10 and 50 days a year, but I've been doing that for more for 40 years. I'm good enough to do have done dye crew on multiple world cup races. Essentially, where do you want an amateur who is good enough to ski with the pro's to put himself? An expert is a very good skier but someone who skis "competently everywhere on the mountain" is not necessarily at the same level as a "talented amateur" who volunteers to do professional level work (even if I might be the slowest of the group). I've started to use the term "professional level skier" as it communicates how I ski faster than "expert skier" does to non-professionals/experts. Plus, it starts a conversation with high level experts or pro's where you can find out whether you want to ski together. Wink
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I'd leave out the "confidently" in the Inside Out Skiing’s guide to off piste skiing level 10 "confidently negotiate any conditions they may encounter including breakable crust". You cannot confidently ski breakable crust and should not try to ski it unless it is the only way down. Try to ski it "safely" but follow monty python's advice and "run away" if you can.

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@Lotus skier, hmmm, I see your points, had a perfectly vile day heli skiing (vile? Heli-skiing? How?) on breakable crust/crud above cervinia about 10 years ago. Perfectly vile. But no alternative. Great lunch though.

I have also skied with some very good "amateurs" who would easily be good enough to be high grade instructors, for instance. I have also skied with one (retired, although I did see a recent image last season) "ski model" and frankly, he just puts almost anyone else on the mountain in the shade. It's an extraordinary difference....
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I thought the levels are to be used for grouping lessons, is it not?

So what difference does it make to classify "expert amateurs" accurately or not? Would they be taking lessons? Would the professionals take lessons from Inside Out?
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@abc, I'd imagine so, yes... being expert is as much about admitting what you don't know as anything else.
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kitenski wrote:
skimottaret wrote:
Just a fun aside, one of the skiers in the L11 expert video changed sports and was on the tele in the the recent Cycling world championships. We emphasised multi sport training and after a bad injury used cycling to rehab and she found her true sporting love. Well done Anna !


Anna Henderson? I assume not Annemiek van Vlueten NehNeh


Sorry missed your comment, yup it is Anna Henderson, great little skier I worked with for a few years from 8 ish and now a world class cyclist. Wonderful to see..
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@abc I'd put myself around 10 on the scale, aspiring to 11. I take lessons from Inside Out.
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I recon I’m one of the best skiers on the whole internet.
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@jbob, I have seen you in action and must agree.
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@HammondR, I fear you might have overtaken me. I guess that makes you a 13.
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