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I'm about to buy a couple of pairs of touring bindings, having bought some seriously discounted skis by clicking one of the ads on admin's snow report a couple of weeks ago.
Any views on the advantages of Fritschi over Marker (which are cheaper) please? They are going to be used by experienced skiers but newcomers to touring (my parents).
I'm steering clear of the Dynafit pin/hole system (which I use myself) as I want the set-up to be flexible to be used with either normal boots or touring boots.
Also - any views on the best skins for European touring? I think I read somewhere lately that there's a certain type that does well on the dry snow of North America but struggles with the sloppy European stuff...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| MountainMaid wrote: |
| Any views on the advantages of Fritschi over Marker (which are cheaper) please? |
With Fritschis, your boot sits on a bar which is well proud of the binding interface to the ski. That means that you can unlock and relock the heel with a ski pole (or your thumb if you're dexterous enough) without having to step out of the binding. I never really liked them and like you, I now use Dynafits which I think make the foot's contact with the snow feel even more positive than Alpine bindings.
And in my opinion, that's the weakness of Fritschis, their feeling of disconnectedness from the ski and the odd 'high up' position they put you in.
This swap request thread from LynseyF ... http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=79508 ... is interesting.
Also, FWIW, I recollect that Fritschi FR's were not technically sanctioned to be 'safe' with alpine soled ski boots whereas the Markers (my other binding is a Baron) are good (with adjustment) for touring rubber and Alpine soles. Whether that's still the case or not with the newest Fritschi, I don't know but it might make a difference regards your versatility requirement.
Never even heard about the skin/snow temperature thing.
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I think, but willing to be wrong itf someone knows better, but the current crop of Fritschi are officially sanctioned for alpine soles (eg. Eagle), but you do need to adjust the height of the toe piece.
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bitoffluff, yes, they conform the alpine DIN standard. Difference between the Marker and Fritschi stack heights is 5mm (34mm vs 39mm).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Fritschi are lighter and have a better stride for going up, but are more prone to breaking, and don't 'connect' you to the ski so well/transmit your movements to it so well. Marker (Baron and Duke at least) are heavier/stronger/feel just like alpine bindings, but due to the position of the pivot the 'stride motion' isn't as good going uphill.
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| moffatross wrote: |
| Also, FWIW, I recollect that Fritschi FR's were not technically sanctioned to be 'safe' with alpine soled ski boots whereas the Markers (my other binding is a Baron) are good (with adjustment) for touring rubber and Alpine soles. Whether that's still the case or not with the newest Fritschi, I don't know but it might make a difference regards your versatility requirement. |
i am pretty sure it's the other way round - fritschis are DIN compatible for alpine and touring bindings; markers only with alpine bindings. that said, i have run my dukes with touring bindings without problems, although I don't fall over too often
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| clarky999 wrote: |
| Fritschi are lighter and have a better stride for going up, but are more prone to breaking, and don't 'connect' you to the ski so well/transmit your movements to it so well. Marker (Baron and Duke at least) are heavier/stronger/feel just like alpine bindings, but due to the position of the pivot the 'stride motion' isn't as good going uphill. |
Fritschis and tours are pretty much the same weight, Barons and Dukes heavier obvs.
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Thanks.
I spoke to Mr Edge and Wax today - this is where I'm thinking of buying them and getting them fitted. I think what may swing it for me is that apparently you have to take your boot right out of the Markers to switch between free and fixed heel modes. I also gather there are more wedge settings on the Fritschi than the Marker. All in all - taking into account the apparent shorter uphill stride on the Marker - it looks like I'll go for the Frischis.
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markers ski much better - i'd never go back to fritchis unless they do a fundamental redesign of their bindings
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