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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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dntel123, Dakine are 'tragic' now that everyone's dad has one. Deuter maybe?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ah, I'll have a look at some Deuters
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I was going to buy the Ortovox Cross 22 but came across the Osprey Kode 22 - room for tools, hydration and a light jacket/spare gloves/butty. Little pockets on the waist belt which are useful too.
I paid £70 from Cotswold but I think I subsequently saw it for £60 following a google.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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dntel123, The Dakine will be just fine. Will hold anything you need and is pretty much bullet proof quality. Ortovox/Osprey are great packs but they are designed specifically for off-piste adventures, so their pocket configurations are not great for more mundane uses, and also a bit of a phaff. For your requirements (which are pretty much the same as mine) the Dakine is about the best you can get, and it's also very useful off the mountain (I use mine almost every day with gym kit, laptop etc in it), which the specialist back-country packs are not. Also beware "all the gear no idea" accusations, which you will definitely attract if all you're pulling out of your pack is some sarnies, a water bottle & a piste map (dead give-away).
EDIT: The Heli pack (11L) was a bit small for me. I got the Baker pack (http://www.dakine.com/p/packs/snow-packs/guys/baker), which is what I describe above.
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Dr John, I tend to ski "edge of the resort" off piste most of the time, but the facility to carry skis on my 'sac, avalanche tools etc is useful for the occasional excursion further away from the lifts.
I also have so many rucsacs (climbing, skiing, fell running, Boris Biking) that multi-purpose utility isn't really necessary!
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Nice  well I just bought the The Heli pack (11L) in green seems fine I mean I think i can carry my skis in it - bonus..
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| dntel123 wrote: |
| I think i can carry my skis in it |
Must be some size of bag!!!
or you have very small skis 
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I use my Helipack all the time, hiking as well as skiing, it's super-comfortable. I've got a white one, and put it through the washing machine (and then re-proof it) occasionally - it comes up a treat.
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I've got both the Helipack and the Helipack Pro, depending on how much I want to carry. The Helipack is usually sufficient for most requirements and carries skis very well.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| red 27 wrote: |
| dntel123, Dakine are 'tragic' now that everyone's dad has one. Deuter maybe? |
I've noticed this in general commuter land. However nothing really does the job better than the basic heli-pack for low profile/low volume carrying of a basic shovel/probe/layer/sarnie/water/emergency kit. Marmot & Osprey etc do better ski carrying on higher volume touring packs
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Osprey for me. Got a Switch 16 about 3 years ago and it has been really good. I also use an Osprey Atmos pack in the summer and they are just really well thought out bits of kit. I think the Kode 22 is probably the current equivalent of my Switch 16 but I expect to get several more years before I replace.
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You know it makes sense.
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Got a new Helipack pro from Rivlington on ebay for a great price. Shovel and probe fit nicely in the front pocket and plenty of room for all the other bits and bobs in the main part, loads of loops and buckles on the outside for carry options.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Try the North Face Chugach, only 11 litres and holds your board or skis
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Poster: A snowHead
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Dakine are far from tragic, if anything it would be deuter that is the "geriatric" backpack.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Sorry to drag this up again but which method of Carry is best "A frame" or "Diagonal"?
Some Dakine bags have one others have both. Also, optimal size?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'd say A frame, catching your legs on skis is seriously annoying.
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Ortovox Freerider 24. "A frame" ski carry system (though I think the maximum shovel width its system allows is 150mm), very well organised with pockets for avy equipment etc., hydration pack-compatible, padded back and it's very low-profile so you don't need to take it off on lifts when skiing resort. Nice colours too.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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A frame is way more balanced but diagonal is quicker to put skis on and take them off. So it really depends what is more useful. I have carried skis diagonally for nearly ten hours and 2000m vertical though and it can get sore:
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If you're looking for dakine bags check out sport pursuit. They've got a sale of them being around about half price for a week. £70 bags for £40 ain't too shabby...shame i already bought mine a couple of months ago
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I really like my BCA Stash OB - hydration pack, padded, fits avi kit and a few other bits in there. Has a really slim profile so easy to keep on for chair lifts. Avi kit all fits inside, which is better than having the shovel handle on the outside. Only bug bear is the goggle pocket is useless, really small and I can't even fit my spare lense in it, let alone goggles.
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I like my Hagloff 30L Mountain Surf. It has both diagonal and A-frame carrying as well as a very nicely sculpted hip/waist belt. I also like how it opens on the back-panel rather than the top or font, so when you lie it down on the snow, with the straps facing up, you can open it there without snow getting inside or it falling over. Also allows for a hydration pack including the insulated cover on the shoulder strap to help prevent it freezing, and a whistle built into the chest strap clip. The front pocket has spaces for shovel blade, handle and probe. I can also easily filt my transceiver in there, so it's not a tight fit. There's also the now-ubiquitous fleecy,zipped goggle pocket too. The only thing it's missing that my BSA Airbag rucksack has it a helmet sling, but there's so many clips and straps available, you can easily attach it there.
TBH, they are all pretty good these days and you just need to find one which fits your back and budget. I was on the verge of buying an Osprey Kode but went for the Hagloff as it was half-price on SportPursuit.
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I think the Kode 22 is probably the current equivalent of my Switch 16 but I expect to get several more years before I replace.
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I've had an Osprey Switch 16 for ten years and it's still going strong.
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dntel123, Dakine are 'tragic' now that everyone's dad has one. Deuter maybe?
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is that whay Alans dee bath is flogging one in his thread?? 
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