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France: Grand Massif 2011/2012 snow report, Les Carroz, Flaine, Samoens, Morillon, Sixt Fer a Cheval

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As its 1st December tomorrow, starting the snow report thread for the Grand Massif, or maybe it should be the snowless report!!

It will get better, ...I hope.......I am there in 2 weeks and 1 day.........winter walking maybe the new winter activity??

however it could all change in 2 or 3 days, so still time yet.
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Ah, you've started it - well done that man and I hope the weather changes for you. I'm not out there until Feb.
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January 7th for me, snow dances from now 'til then.
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28th of Jan for us so hope it is nice and snowy by then.
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carroz, I'm with you. Out on 17 Dec.
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carroz, I'll be out in Samoens for a few days around then -maybe a beer? Cool
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end of Feb for me
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Feb half term. Plenty time yet he said optimistically.
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Christmas Eve for us.

Should I pack walking boots or ski boots.

Crying or Very sad Puzzled
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Jan 14th for 10 days! One of the optimistic few that believes there WILL be snow!

Ben
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Ben E C, same here on both counts. which village are you staying at?
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Staying in Les Carroz mate! What about yourself?
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well I am gambling on there being snow going to flaine on the 17th.
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Ben E C, Same here again. Trying Chalet Jovencau this time. Fourth time to LC itself, sixth to the GM.
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OPL, Welcome to SH's, thats 17th of Dec presumably? You really need to start praying to the snow gods although it is due to start falling this weekend. You will be okay in Flaine but some of the links might be a problem.
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There is supposed to be a new lift this year that replaces an old slo one, anyone know where is is?
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mr_big_ad, Desert Blanc, new 6 man chair replaces the old 3 man and 4 man chairs in flaine that went up to tete de pelouse area which is about where cascades starts

and if you want to see that there is basically no snow at the moment look here

http://www.webcam-hd.com/grand-massif_flaine-1600.php
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Yeah 17th of December for me, first holiday in the snow, normally just go to Glenshee.
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[quote="carroz"]mr_big_ad, Desert Blanc, new 6 man chair replaces the old 3 man and 4 man chairs in flaine that went up to tete de pelouse area which is about where cascades starts


Thats good news, we ski across from Morillon and spend 80% of our time in Flaine using those chairs as there is good off piste next to good fairly steep some blues for the less confident.
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mr_big_ad, If you are off piste there early season, look out for the holes, it is not really very safe
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someone said to me if you see Flaine in the summer, you dont go off piste there anymore Shocked Hopefully by the end of Feb the holes will be filled in!
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webcam looking moody! http://www.webcam-hd.com/grand-massif_flaine-1600.php
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I arrived yesterday... should have bought my bike cos there's no snow...

On the plus side I'm here for 4 months so I should get a couple of weeks skiing at some point...
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mr_big_ad, Desert Blanc, new 6 man chair replaces the old 3 man and 4 man chairs in flaine that went up to tete de pelouse area which is about where cascades starts



Just looked at the piste map (been out). Trouble is, although this chair will be quicker it means there's no lift now to get you to Faust from halfway up the hill i.e. whereas you could use the Col de plate chair before you now have to ski down to either thr DMC or the other "new" chair (Tete de Verds) to move right in the bowl. Previously you could keep meeting up with others sking Belzebuth / Cristal if you were skiing top half of Faust. So it still needs a replacement for the Col de Plate chair imv.
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mr_big_ad, carroz is right. Top part of Flaine isn't the best place for off piste! The holes are huge! It you want safer off-piste, head to the Gers bowl (top of DMC and keep heading along the ridge to the left, past the Cascades turning and keep on going) - its served by a very dodgy drag lift though Happy
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cran, Do you know if the Aup de Veran (Eggs ) Lift in Flaine has been repaired? I recently heard it might not be open in December if at all this season. Thanks
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Very cloudy out there today, the GM could at least be getting a light dusting above 1600 this morning?

http://www.grand-massif.com/hiver/webcams.php
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Gers hasn't been open the last couple of times I have been, would like to give it a go.
We do tend to stay fairly close to either the piste or the lifts when we do, tends to be around bealzebub from memory.
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In Samoens at the moment. It has been raining quite heavily for past twoi days and snow is now visible on surrounding hills. A lot of snow - 50cm - forecast for Flaine over next few days. A big problem being discussed widely here is the warm ground and the fact that thiis is pretty much the first rain since July. The river is almost dry and the snow gun reservoirs are empty. Suspect this a widespread issue. Having said all that nobody is unduly worried. Am back in Samoens on Jan 3 and hoping for the best.
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ian999, Thanks for the update... I noticed some snow cannons running on Friday (on the webcam pic)... maybe just testing. I think most of europe has been dry this autumn... fingers crossed it gets wetter for a few months now!
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Hello all. We out 4th March and I just know there'll be snow I haven't been disappointed yet. Thanks to Carroz for fab updates. I will be checking the forum daily even tho some posts are so negative and scare me always before I go. When we get there I always am surprised.
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cran, Do you know if the Aup de Veran (Eggs ) Lift in Flaine has been repaired? I recently heard it might not be open in December if at all this season. Thanks

Not yet (not yesterday anyway), they have taken some of the broken bits away, but it's not repaired.

I heard that they still haven't found out why it failed and they won't repair it until they do, but I have nothing to back that up other than 'someone in the pub said it so it must be true...'
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looking at the cams this morning (looking good) must have a go at corbalanche this year, dow it get heavinly moguled?
http://www.trinum.com/ibox/carroz/Images/arrivee/lescarroz_arrivee9.jpg
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Friend sent me some photos from earlier today and it's all turned white in Flaine down to resort level. However, still only about 10cm, so a long way to go.

Re Aup de Veran lift, I have been told that they have removed the damaged pylon but it is difficult to see how they are going to get it repaired and running before the end of the season. Once the snow sets in it will be far more difficult to repair. Given the almost permanent queues for the Egg it is going to put a massive strain on the other lifts. Maybe they'll have to keep the Mephisto Superieur run open permanently so you can get to the top of the Egg. Does anyone know why it is closed most of the time?
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Chris Mason, I'm sure someone will have the definitive answer about the Mephisto, but I seem to remember being told it was to do with some dodgy crevasses that needed solid snow bridges before it was safe to open.
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Chris Mason, I'm sure someone will have the definitive answer about the Mephisto, but I seem to remember being told it was to do with some dodgy crevasses that needed solid snow bridges before it was safe to open.


Yes iirc in the summer there's a deep gully with stream running across it.
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Web cams looking a lot better today Happy
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Are they switching any lifts on this weekend?
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Yes iirc in the summer there's a deep gully with stream running across it.


Presumably down in the dip? Great run and often quiet even Feb HT. Goes into shade in the afternoon like most of the RHS of the bowl (looking up) so gets quieter.
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VERY white out there today, huge difference on the webcams compared to 48 hours ago. Looks like it's still hammering it down too, yey! Very Happy
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paulio, yes - I believe so, I had an email earlier from grand-massif.com in French which confirmed I think Happy
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