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Building a ski Service Kit

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Hi Guy/Gals,
This is my first rambling post, but would be interested for other peoples opinions..

I am looking to build a ski servicing kit. It seems the put together kits might be slightly expensive and have some unnecessary bits and pieces.

Was thinking a cheap travel iron with temp control can be bought for a tenner, opposed to 40. ok the temperature control wont be precise but probably good enough?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quest-Voltage-Travel-camping-caravan/dp/B003UHAEEW/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1322656830&sr=8-10&tag=amz07b-21

Diamond files for a fiver.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Diamond+File+Set/p56163

brass Brush for 2 quid
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Wire+Brush+Set/p70659

File Set for 7
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/File+Set/p70348

Filling Knives Scrapers , 2
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Euro+Filling+Set+/p98277

Metal Spring Clamps , 2
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Metal+Spring+Clamp/p65149

Soldering iron , 5
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand+Tools/Electricians+Tools/Soldering+Iron+40w+230V/d10/sd170/p74671

Soft Scrapers , 15
http://www.screwfix.com/p/vinyl-smoothers-5-piece-set/82405

Scouring pads, under the sink.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Painting+Decorating/Sanding+Paper/Contour+Sanding+Pads/d150/sd1730/p10736
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Painting+Decorating/Sanding+Paper/Finishing+Pad+150x230mm+General+Purpose+Green/d150/sd1730/p29218

wax remover
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Painting%20&%20Decorating/Wood%20Care/Wax%20&%20Polish%20Remover%20500ml/d150/sd3151/p36174

Gummy Stone, not sure where to source this but i bet its similar to a grinding wheel dresser or something.

Then I think i will need the Guides, , wax and ptex all bought on fleabay

My general thinking is that some bloke with a load of workshop tools serviced ski's then thought lets make some cash and stick ski labels on them? Obviously

I have to admit i have never done this stuff before. But willing to have a bash at anything.

Cheers
A
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The proper tools don't have to be expensive, I think my ski iron was about 30€ from Decathlon which is more expensive than £10 but it's square and yellow which has to be worth the extra 20 odd quid.

It probably is worth getting a proper edge tool file holder too just because it's easy to set the angle, but the files to put in it can be bought cheaply from a normal tool shop.

never bothered with wax remover.

scrapers and brushes just get from anywhere, worn out underwear is fine for cloths.

You could try melting candles for the wax but don't blame me if it doesn't work too well , I just use a cheap 0 to -30 general ski wax which seems to work ok.

full service (repairs/edges/wax) once a year and then top up the wax each week, only do other stuff if it needs it but I don't ski on roads and rocks much so not that often.
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Adrian80i, Welcome to snowHead's.

My 2p worth -- others will say different -- but I'd go for a dedicated ski iron. I find that travel irons don't work that well on fatter skis or with hard wax. You'll also need some kind of vice to hold the skis in. Spyderjon's site has some usefull tips, as does Edge and Wax.
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Depends what you're tuning for and inherently your beliefs. If you are fussy about a professional standard tune then it's worth getting good quality kit. At the other end of the extreme is the seasonnaire's tune which involves occasional wax (maybe every couple of weeks) and the odd dab of Ptex when the core shots look like they might be letting too much water into the core.

Generally I agree that branded ski tuning kit seems to be overpriced compared to general DIY but then the market is orders of magnitude smaller.
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Hi Adrian, looks like you're into buying tools.

I've found over recent years that I'm generally using less and less servicing tools. I think I'm down to quite a short list now:
- Discman Blush
- Wax iron (proper ski ones are best as it's nowadays hard to find dry irons - most are steam which clog up and can cause a fire hazard)
- Wax scraper (tend to get given away as goodies at many ski events)
- Brushes: 1x brass, 1x nylon (although you can get away with a single 50:50 brush)
- Brake retainers
- Folding bench and ski vice (only when travelling by car)
- Sidewall trimmer (rarely used)

Using the above I can get a extremely good edge and wax - certainly okay for amateur racing. I just don't seem to need anything more. It seems rare these days that I damage the bases: but if it happens when away I just use a p-tex candle, and wait until I get home to fill properly using a p-tex gun.

- and yes, welcome to snowHead
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I listened to all the advice about ski irons when i was buying my service kit, but ended up with a tesco iron for a fiver. I can't see how a ski iron would be better. The holes in the base aren't a disadvantage - they help spread the wax on nicely. They certainly don't clog up with wax as far as i can tell because the iron melts the wax out as you'd expect.

I bought expensive files which i never use. The file i do use has the angle pre-set which is more useful. I did end up buying a gummy stone because it was only a few quid and is handy for smoothing out dings during the day. It's similar to a whetstone which is what i used to use to sharpen edges.
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RobW, I would probably stick a Horse Hair brush in their as it removes the static charge from the base created by the Nylon Brush.

Always prefered an edge angle and file myself

Other than that fairly nice list, I am sure the words Spyderjon are rushing towards this thread Smile
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Thanks guys for all your responses..

Cran -I will carry on looking for a proper ski iron.
Ski - I have a mitre saw bench with extendable arms, which i hope will act as a good work bench.
I guess i am being a bit of a tight back bottom Twisted Evil , but skiing is so damn expensive.

I have a set of 2010 K2 Apache Xplorer, but not sure of all of the angles.
Do any of you guys no where to find this out.

And can anyone recommend a good multitool for setting the edges.

cheers A
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I guess i didnt really point out that i hurtle down the blacks very happily and am just learning to how to go off piste.

Speed isnt a massive issue for me, just want something that is going to handle nicely, but saying that i dont want to go slow!

Cheers A
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I find having a vice indispensable. My base edge guide is plastic and was a quid.
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jbob, thats what i am talking about! a quid perfect! where do i get one? Wink
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For setting the side edge angles, then it's generally better to use a fixed-angle guide (rather than a variable-angle guide) as these are more accurate. Some friends swear by http://www.skibartlett.com/vallorbe-pro-tuner-stainless-steel-file-guide-1676-p.asp but somewhat cheaper are http://www.skiracing.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_10&products_id=508 which also eliminate the need to buy separate clamps.

What angles you use on the K2s is your decision: I'd suggest 2 (or 88 ) degrees for decent grip without being excessive - and just leave the base edge as it is.
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monkey wrote:
I listened to all the advice about ski irons when i was buying my service kit, but ended up with a tesco iron for a fiver. I can't see how a ski iron would be better. The holes in the base aren't a disadvantage - they help spread the wax on nicely. They certainly don't clog up with wax as far as i can tell because the iron melts the wax out as you'd expect. .


it is better because it is designed to do the job and has a temperature control specific to wax temperatures...much less likely to burn your bases or trash the wax with the correct iron,

but hey if you are happy with it fine by me Little Angel
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