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why would you waste your holiday time getting footbeds when on holiday?


Because nobody goes shopping or takes any time to walk around the town/village while on holiday, they only ski and sleep.
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OH has very problematic feet & was always in real pain with them. Profeet in London sorted him out really well and he highly recommends them. I went to profeet clutching my credit card wanting to get a new shiny pair of boots. They said my current ones were fine but suggested a new footbed. A sign of a good shop when they refuse to sell you a product Toofy Grin
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SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote:
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why would you waste your holiday time getting footbeds when on holiday?


Because nobody goes shopping or takes any time to walk around the town/village while on holiday, they only ski and sleep.


Next time i go skiing i must remember book an appointment to get the oil changed in my car, bring my dry cleaning along and get a few buttons sewn back on. Know any good tailors in the mountains?

Shopping for foot beds woudnt be top of my list of fun things to do on Holiday snowHead Sock shopping though.... Laughing
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Next time i go skiing i must remember book an appointment to get the oil changed in my car, bring my dry cleaning along and get a few buttons sewn back on. Know any good tailors in the mountains?


All things no doubt you use exclusively on snow and in the mountains.
I would suggest though you get your oil changed before leaving if driving on holiday there are hundreds of shopkeepers banking on you arriving safely, and in clean smart attire.
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All things no doubt you use exclusively on snow and in the mountains.


That reminds me I am going skiing this winter and I need to get snow tyres, snow chains and a ski roof box. Mustn't get that sorted before I go as i am sure the ones i would get on arrival in the mountains will be so much better and shopping for them will be a welcome diversion to all that skiing and sleeping wink
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skimottaret, To avoid wasting time getting here, please take a plane and use a transfer to your destination, with prior planning you will save not only time, but money and the environment.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, I tend to take the train, faster and greener but have to stop our little sword fight as i gotta do some paperwork , as always has been fun !! Toofy Grin
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cathy,
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They said my current ones were fine but suggested a new footbed. A sign of a good shop when they refuse to sell you a product
Agreed and I had a similar experience at Profeet. Actually, they said the boots were too big, but that if I was reasonably happy with them, I would be able to manage for a bit longer with new footbeds. And I did. Furthermore, as noted above, CEM said it would be fine for me to go on using those footbeds. I can't go so far as personally to recommend Profeet for new shells, though, as I've not had any from them.
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From the tone of Gainz ' last post he doesn't sound the kind of chap to whom I would bother to give advice.

However, I have learned a lot from the post he began and may well put Bicester on an early trip out.
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Farley Goode wrote:
From the tone of Gainz ' last post he doesn't sound the kind of chap to whom I would bother to give advice.


lol classic.

SMALLZOOKEEPER, no idea where exactly it is. I arrive in Cham at around 7pm so I guess it would be too late anyway. I'm still debating on whether or not to go to profeet as its closest to me. also came across these. doesn't look like they're available in the UK.
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I've had my boots fitted and footbeds done by CEM and can deffo reccomend him, he is the best and you should be arsed to make the trip there NehNeh

I used to work at Ellis Brigham Castleford and I can say, the lads (and other lass) there are excellent skiers (although freestylers of course) and also know a lot about footbed making, all the technical stuff etc. Also Brighams Cas has Julian Thorpe, specialist who works there Wednesdays, (and another day but can't remember which) you have to make an appointment, he is good though.

The high street shops, I can't really say but haven't heard many good things about them, it seems being near a ski slope means the employees know a thing or two more. But that is speculation from reading/hearing what people have said.
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Your feet are uncomfortable so seeing a professional is worth it in the long run.

I am not sure if I needed them or not, but am happy with my purchase of custom foot beds from Jeff Bergeron in Breckenridge a few years back. Think I paid $300 which in 100 for boot fitting and another 200 for the custom foot beds. Even if you only ski 10 days a year, cost only comes to a few quid a day and what is comfort worth to you? Boots will last at least 100 days skiing (more if you don't walk in them alot or use some protection) and the footbeds will last at least 10 years (unless you are a 200 day a year guy)
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£75 seems like a lot of money for S&R footbeds. Mine were £40 a couple of seasons ago. Unless they are suddenly hiring people who know what they're doing, I don't see the increased cost is justified.

If it helps, my boots were fitted by a 16 year old kid who knew nothing about ski boots. They've been better than most others boots, but then I do know my own feet relatively well so knew what I was looking for. They did a bit of heating and playing with them, but nothing more than chucking them in the oven and then me putting them on for a while. They have done 3 seasons now and are still comfortable, if now packed out just slightly too much, but not bad for a pair of end of season sale boots available in limited sizes.

Next time round I will probably bother with a boot fitter. But only because my skiing has moved on a lot in the last few years, I am now at the point where a bit of extra control and confidence in my boots might just make a bit of difference. Do I think that people skiing for 2 weeks with fairly normal feet need to spend an extra £100 on seeing a boot fitter? Not really.
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Monium,
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Do I think that people skiing for 2 weeks with fairly normal feet need to spend an extra £100 on seeing a boot fitter? Not really.

Oh yes they do - even with just one week a year

I have fairly niormal but slightly flat feet - Can get boots to fit me no problem.

But when ski-ing I got the same problem as the OP - absolutely killing pain around the outside of my foot. Decided to go to Rivington Alpine for a new pair of boots last year. Got custom footbeds on the advice of Graham.

Result - not a single ache or pain (in my feet at least) over the week ski-ing
Cost - About £75 extra on the boot price
Worth - A lot more than that
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We believe that 90% of problems caused when wearing skiboots are born by the foot and what it is trying to do to cope with all the extra forces etc etc....... Thus by using a well made custom footbed the foot is given the help and support it needs to do this. Perhaps more regular skier's feet learn to deal with this, I know mine do, but this is in itself a reason for using footbeds no matter how often you ski, even perhaps the less you ski the more one might find them a help. That issue aside the fact that they can reduce the elongation of the foot means that you may buy a shorter boot, a shorter boot (same model) will have less volume, less volume, better fit, better fit, more control, more control, faster speeds, faster speeds more natural drugs, we sell drugs, buy drugs.
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Monium, it sounds like you just had your liners heat molded. you got robbed for 40 quid.

The way I understand it is that they make you stand on the footbed device while it molds to the contours of your foot. then they make up the bed, then fit it in the liner. They said they might stretch the boot if really needed. takes about 40mins. Covent Garden S&R charge 65 as do TSA. S&R at hemel was 75 quid. BTW I am talking snowboard boots here.
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Gainz wrote:
Monium, it sounds like you just had your liners heat molded. you got robbed for 40 quid.

The way I understand it is that they make you stand on the footbed device while it molds to the contours of your foot. then they make up the bed, then fit it in the liner. They said they might stretch the boot if really needed. takes about 40mins. Covent Garden S&R charge 65 as do TSA. S&R at hemel was 75 quid. BTW I am talking snowboard boots here.


Nope, had custom insoles made for them, they heated them up a bit in the old oven, and then they fitted just nicely. These were ski boots though, not snowboard.

£65 seems like a lot for a footbed. It is hardly a complicated product, and the time required in the shop seems to be about 15 minutes. If there was a load of work going in to it, or expert was crafting it using skill that takes years to master I could understand, but these were chucked together by a shop monkey in S&R who didn't know chuff all about boots, and that's probably what you'll get in S&R or TSA.
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£65 seems like a lot for a footbed. It is hardly a complicated product, and the time required in the shop seems to be about 15 minutes. If there was a load of work going in to it, or expert was crafting it using skill that takes years to master I could understand, but these were chucked together by a shop monkey in S&R who didn't know chuff all about boots, and that's probably what you'll get in S&R or TSA.


It's the most complex thing to do right in our business, bit like a good steak, everyone can cook 'em, not everyone makes it a memorable experience.
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ski wrote:
Gainz, You could try the Superfeet ones.. which are not a custom fit - but are better than the standard ones..but...
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but the pain on the outside of my right foot can get unbearable at times


suggests a trip to a good bootfiter may be a thing to think about wink


No axe to grind, but unless you've got mega problems superfeet are a bloody good £35 spent.

30 patents for their tech and a company started by guys selling orthotics for 500 bucks plus. two month no-quibble money back guarantee is pretty cast iron too.

I'm profeet-ed in my ski boots and wouldn't swap them for owt, but my walking boots are superfeet-ed and the difference is palpable.
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Monium, have they worked for you?
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Can anyone tell me if black/blue/green Superfeet trim to fit footbeds should be sized weighted or unweighted or even the semi weighted sitting position?

My arch lenght is much longer weighted so what is the correct method regarding this specific arch lenght?

I,m not worried about the heel width or arch height at this point,thats probably easier to determine.
Saying that I doubt I can match all three fit areas up with superfeet and even if I could on one foot both feet are probably different.
Its already pointing to a custom type.
I am going to try superfeet cut to fit so I know first hand but want to have the best fit available from them.
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Tirol 164, you need to STAND on the product and follow the 3 things below IN ORDER

1 full length, is it longer than your foot? if no move up a size
2 is your heel neatly in the heel cup, if sitting over the edges move up or go to the green wide product, if swimming around try going down, but custom will work best
3 where is the ball of your foot? needs to be just in front of the end of the plastic cap, the cap can be trimmed back a little if required

the product may or may not fill the arch, it doesn't need to, it works by stabilizing the heel bone which in turn allows the arch to flex but not collapse (as much) if you have a low arch or a more rigid foot the blue or black will probably feel more comfortable if you have a more flexible foot or a higher arch then green will give the most support of the off the shelf range

hope that helps
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Thanks for confirming and all advice CEM.
To answer your points .

1) I have longer superfeet than my foot with F size blue.(foot sz 27/27.5cm)

2)My heel is a full fit in F size blue where my past D black it overfilled the heel.
Never seen a wide model superfeet anywhere. I would like to try the heel in wide greens D,E,F just to check though.
Maybe at the ski show if they are about.

I fill a F size blue heel completely, probably maxed out with hot feet?
With G size heel just the whole footbed looked Herman Munster size on a 27cm foot .

3)The ball of my foot is in front of the plastic end cap just! but not by much! probably ok or I can cut a bit later if I feel anything weird underneath.


As it works out the F size in blue weighted fills my longer arch lenght (fully visually) but possibly the blue is not enough arch height?
As with oz5000 I want to try superfeet for multiple boots and runners before dec so a few pairs is ok.
By end Dec/jan I will have gotten more than a few weeks messing about in them on snow.
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