Poster: A snowHead
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On quite a few posts I'm reading things like: "The Preacher's ski short as the effective edge of the 179 is 158"
Does this mean the 179 ski actually skis like a 158 or it actually has a snow contact edge of 158 and is more like a ski of around 170?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Andy H, It's the effective edge (the steel on the snow). There are a lot of different aspects that change the effective edge. Example a 165 slalom ski (trad tip, flat tail) may have an effective edge of 159cm where as a 190 Redeemer (tip and tail rocker) has an effective edge of 100cm.
Quite often, when people say "it skis short" they mean the twin tip looses 50-10cm of the effective edge or the ski design may make the ski feel more responsive thus the feeling of a shorter ski. Normally its the pop and the side cut that does this.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks Dot. - ok, so you raise another couple of questions.
1. Pop - is this the flexibility which comes from the manufacturing process and materials used?
2. Side Cut I'm guessing is the shape of the ski - a carve ski versus a powder ski - is this correct?
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Andy H,
1) Not so much the flex but the rebound.
2) Yes the shape if you look at the ski from a birds eye (not the camber and tip/tail profile). A pow ski can still have a lot of side cut. Armarda JJs are a great example of this. Its the turn radius when the effective edge is flat on the surface of the snow i.e. the natural turning shape.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Dot., thanks again - I've much to learn! Can't wait to sample a couple of these skis that members have been talking up, as demos when I visit Utah in Feb. I'd love to find a new set of skis for there and future trips to Japan.
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Andy H, you'll love Utah. Demo as many pairs as you can, not just Whitedot as there are loads of great skis out there and very few bad ones. If you're thinking you'll be spending a load of time in Japan in the future, venture on the wider side.
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Dot., Will do and I appreciate your replies.
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