 Poster: A snowHead
|
Samerberg Sue, the fracture is right at the head of the Fibula, so i'll take what you said on board.
Stuart Calder seems to get a big thumbs up all round so I'm leaning that way.
NickyJ, that's my thinking, if I'm not happy jump ships. The guy i have is most likely very competent but I know no-one he has cut, whereas I do Messers Calder or London.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
midgetbiker, following our telecon earlier have sent a FB message to the friend I mentioned, won't see her at the gym tonight (forgot Real Madrid vs MUFC was on tv!) will likely see her tomorrow. Will advise tomorrow evening latest........looks like Harrogate based Calder or London eh?
Also forgot to tell you the Redeemers were brilliant in St Anton, Dan's even jumped an av barrier, mine just went between them! They get so many looks.......my ski lock was deployed at all comfort, lunch and après breaks just to be safe. Saw more WD's in Arlberg this time than ever before.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
midgetbiker, Stuart didn't ever operate on my knee, physio thankfully sorted me out, but I did bike with him and some of his mates and like you say he appears to have a good reputation.
good luck!
Regards,
greg
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
Nick London is a skier so will be interested that you work in the industry. if you can switch to Harrogate i think you will get a quicker service as it is a smaller hospital. I would go with Harrogate.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
midgetbiker, good luck with getting it sorted out - my missed fib fracture and avulsed LCL could have been sorted very quickly and painlessly had it been seen at the time it happened. As it was it took nearly 2.5 years to sort out as well as 5 operations and I had to sit out a whole season. Luckily it was 2006/2007 so I did not miss much! 
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
midgetbiker, Made contact with her, she says she'll advise later today, going to do some asking about for me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Thanks all, things are moving apace. with Nick London being Harrogate the swap is more onerous so that, plus several personal recommendations for Stuart Calder, means i am off to see the doc in an hour for a referral.
MRI is booked for the day after my return from France.
Now i just have to look forward to 2 weeks of everyone heading to the hill each morning and waving bye bye to a forlorn me.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
midgetbiker, Good luck - if you have any product tests you need a Yorkshire stand in for, let me know!
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
kitenski, Hey good shout, we could test drive those Carbon Redeemers eh midgetbiker, ??!! When I get back kitenski, will just be revving up to set off out there.
Car leaves in 2 weeks.............hint
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Markymark29, that's a cracking idea, how much should we charge for our services
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
kitenski, I'd go visit him in Harrogate hospital in exchange I guess if I had to 
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
|
Markymark29, and I'll chuck in a bottle of lucozade.........
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
midgetbiker, sent you a PM, got you a name
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
|
kitenski, It's a matter of great shame that like Vaughan you forget your heritage so easily and pass yourself off as Yarkshire.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
|
fatbob, the phrase "yorkshire stand in" has nowt to do with one's place of birth, dear chap!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
|
kitenski, so your an incumdun eh?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
| Pedantica wrote: |
| midgetbiker, if you want any more recommendations, it may be worth pm'ing Jonathan Bell, who has put some very helpful knee posts up on here. (He himself is based down south.) |
Happy to help if you have questions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
Next idea for admin is the snowHead's Boogerd Knee insurance scheme . . . I'm losing count at how many of you are gimpy. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
midgetbiker, how's it going?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
| Markymark29 wrote: |
| midgetbiker, how's it going? |
Well it's apparently a bigger hassle to switch cities so I'm sticking in Leeds. If my MRI confirms the ACL rupture then I will go see Stuart Calder at the Spire in Roundhay then get an NHS op with him.
Right now I'm in CH heading for Chx, with a roofbox full of proto skis I can't test. Been sat in the car for 10 hours and the leg is not too happy about it. At least School of Rock on the DVD is keeping the argueing from the back seat very muted.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
|
|
|
|
|
aprilhart,
If you twisted your knee skiing, heard or felt a pop, it swelled within an hour or so and it has given way you are 90+% likely to have ruptured your ACL.
If swelling appeared next day much less likely.
The pain on the inside may indicate just a sprain of the medial collateral ligament ( the least severe grade of injury often the most painful)
The other particularly when combined with locking is that you may have torn your medial meniscus.
Doing all three of the above is not unheard of.
MRI may give you your answer but is not a substitute for an examination by someone competent as MRI can underestimate ACl injuries.
Your physio will give you advice on managing the swelling etc but the sooner you get a diagnosis the quicker things will make progress.
It is impossible to give a prognosis ( recovery prediction) without a crystal clear diagnosis.
PM me if you like.
You need another opinion form someone who knows what they are doing and is interested in helping you return to sports.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jonathan Bell,
| Quote: |
heard or felt a pop
|
Ouch!
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
Markymark29, not as bad as when you hear it in your back 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
[quote="Samerberg Sue"]midgetbiker, if you can get Stuart Calder to work on you, you will have one of the best knee surgeons currently working in the UK. Make sure whoever you end up seeing checks out the Postereo-Lateral Corner if you have a fibula fracture anywhere near the head of the fib. Mine was missed completely by a surgeon who was not so experienced and it casued me no end of problems. If the MCL is only a grade 2 it may be left to heal on its own as it is capable due to having a good blood supply compared with other ligaments.
Anyone missing a posterolateral knee injury shouldn't call themselves a knee specialist!
|
|
|
|
|
|
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
|
|
Jonathan Bell, He is a Professor of Trauma Surgery at the Maximilian Ludwig University, Munich, so an ER specialist. Sadly I had no choice due to my Industrial Injuries insurance here in Germany! The top knee orthopod at the same hospital will not work with the industrial injuries insurance schemes as they are notoriously finickity about payments and treatments.
|
|
|
|
|
|
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
|
Samerberg Sue,
That must have been very frustrating!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jonathan Bell, 2.5 wasted years, a full season lost and possibly 3 further and unnecessary operations. But hey ho got it sorted in the end and was back on skis very fast! I put it all down to experience
|
|
|
|
|
|
You know it makes sense.
|
| Samerberg Sue wrote: |
Jonathan Bell, 2.5 wasted years, a full season lost and possibly 3 further and unnecessary operations. But hey ho got it sorted in the end and was back on skis very fast! I put it all down to experience |
So important to get it right first time. Glad to hear you've been able to move on.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
|
| Quote: |
MRI may give you your answer but is not a substitute for an examination by someone competent as MRI can underestimate ACl injuries.
|
The Pysio in Chx says there is a chance the ACL is ok and the meniscus is torn. I was hoping the MRI would be definitive on this but if not then it makes it even more important (to my mind) that I see an acknowledged expert in the field of sporting knee injuries.
So I am now hard over on seeing Stuart Calder after my MRI, though in fairness my current guy is part of an acute knee clinic and I have recently heard good things about him (just not as many as I have about Mr Calder).
|
|
|
|
|
|
Poster: A snowHead
|
Hi all,
Hope those of you who are injured are on the mend, and thanks for the advice from the rest of you.
I've spoken to some of you in my other thread. http://www.snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=97804&highlight=&sid=0d217698242dbcecfbcfaf63acc931fb
From what I've read I'm moving towards getting a private diagnosis from an expert rather than waiting for the NHS cogs to turn (being self emplyed it might be cheaper to pay for quick treatment rather than lose work and money whilst waiting).
So, can anyone recommend an expert in the Manchester area?
I've driven past this place and seen adverts in the gym. Does anyone have experiences of using them? http://www.thekneedoc.co.uk
Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
|
janeed, the surgeon who fronts this, Mr. Sangiv Jari is listed as one of the recommended surgeons in the area by the Knee Guru web site : http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEnotes/node/2409
The surgeons listed on there are by recommendation and peer-review only, no-one can pay to be listed. The site is run privately by a consultant who was involved in setting up the first specialist knee clinic in the UK (the Droitwich Clinic).
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
|
|
janeed, I am PM ing you.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
|
|
Thanks. My physio has just suggested Mr Jari too, so he sounds like a good bet.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
|
| Samerberg Sue wrote: |
janeed, the surgeon who fronts this, Mr. Sangiv Jari is listed as one of the recommended surgeons in the area by the Knee Guru web site : http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEnotes/node/2409
The surgeons listed on there are by recommendation and peer-review only, no-one can pay to be listed. The site is run privately by a consultant who was involved in setting up the first specialist knee clinic in the UK (the Droitwich Clinic). |
I'm not sure I buy it that the Knee Guru site is as impartial as you make out. At a very quick glance it is missing several good surgeons in our area and includes one who missed a diagnosis on my husbands knee some years ago.
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
|
sarah, it is completely impartial as the list is only compiled and updated by the person who runs the site based on patient references and peer-group reviews. The person who runs it is a consultant involved in knee surgery, but is not a surgeon themselves. It never claims to be a definitive listing, more a starting point for people looking for a particular type of specialist.
Sadly not many people send in names for referral so it is not always up to date, nor is it a definitive list, often names are passed on via conferences from other surgeons and consultants. It is the only listing I know of that covers most regions of the world as well which being based outside of the UK I found extremely helpful when looking for a revision specialist.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| sarah wrote: |
I'm not sure I buy it that the Knee Guru site is as impartial as you make out. At a very quick glance it is missing several good surgeons in our area and includes one who missed a diagnosis on my husbands knee some years ago. |
It is definitely not impartial. It started out as a voice piece for the Droitwich Knee Clinic, whose founder has now retired. When it was set up it included a large number of " preferred surgeons to whom the site linked" but not one of them, was in the UK. It took advantage of link farms to bump it up the google rankings before google objected to that sort of thing. A couple of the " featured individuals" are people I have trained and saw it as " a great place to advertise" I have never approached Knee Guru to be included but my colleague, who did, is. Its quite simple if i give them sage like articles they are quite likley to be published. I thought it was so obviously not impartial that I've avoided it. Perhaps I'd better sign up !!
However as far as i know the discussion forums are impartial unless a knee surgeon posts stuff without being transparent about it-- shudder the thought.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
midgetbiker,
Who is your physio in Chx?
|
|
|
|
|
|
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
|
|
Jonathan Bell, You are listed, so whether you like it or not, someone recommended you and other consultants peer reviewed you so you must have passed someone's approval. I've seen people in your neck of the woods referred to you as well.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Samerberg Sue wrote: |
| Jonathan Bell, You are listed, so whether you like it or not, someone recommended you and other consultants peer reviewed you so you must have passed someone's approval. I've seen people in your neck of the woods referred to you as well. |
I must confess I don't look at the site very often unless a patient says they've posted something.
I did have one who clearly forgot they had told me she was posting on it and I subsequently saw her post that said she wanted to brain me with her crutches as I had told her she could get rid of the if she believed she could!
She then posted that I was right but it took a bottle of wine to get the confidence. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
Went to go see my private Physio who has said he would almost put money on meniscus damage. Wrote a very strongly worded letter to the hospital and I'm now waiting for an MRI. Nearly all of the pain I get is on the inside of my knee and it also keeps locking. 
I guess what I'm wanting to know is what kind of recovery am I looking at and what can I do in the mean time. For a living I ride horses and am going insane not being able to get on a horse!
