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Tignes Cuisine is a take away noodles bar and its terrace seating is packed with Brits every day. Great grub for €5-8.

I have only seen Brits there and there would be no room for Russians, les Belgiques or any other Johnny Foreigner types, were they to even like noodles.

I think the pasty shop is a great idea.
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To the French, a savoury pastie or pie is an alien concept. We once had an exchangee staying, who horrified her parents by telling them she had eaten Tarte aux Rognons in England for her main course (steak and kidny pie / pudding, to us) For them, anything in pastry, such as a pie, is seen as a dessert!
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Love the sound of a Pasty bar also a couple of my lads seassonaire mates were looking at a mobile Indian takeaway van that went from resort to resort each day, which I thought could be a great idea

Peter Leuzzi, the chalet idea tho sounds the best, we have some plans for a year round Snowshepherd chalet, maybe we should talk?? Very Happy
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Peter Leuzzi wrote:
I like the idea of owning something or investing in something in the mountains that makes these trips and more more productive with more purpose.


Personally I'd rather spend my time in the mountains skiing and relaxing, any business activities would only get in the way. I know a few people who own businesses in ski resorts and they always seem to be too busy to go skiing.
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stephen buck, Raymond Blanc made a pie in a recent series. I've had a pie in a restaurant in Serre Che, it's apparently a local dish.
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You can get Pukka Pies at the snack place at the bottom of the Verte run in La Daille - they were sold out when we were there.
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Come to think if it, a quiche is not a dessert either.
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Hells Bells, what about Tourtiere as well (French Canadian, but still...)
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Add Pasty Chicken Tikka Masala and you have the Brit market covered....
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Peter Leuzzi, I rest my case! Laughing
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Hells Bells, interesting... do they call it a "tarte" or do they have another name, I wonder?
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Does anyone remember the series where some Brits set up a curry house in France? It folded after a few months - they reckoned it was becase wine (esp red) and curry don't go!
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stephen buck, no idea, but there was pastry (top and bottom), potatoes and ham.
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stephen buck, more likely to be because the French a) tend to be a bit conservative on the food front and b) hate anything spicy.
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The perfect alpine business for a snowHead would surely be hot air balooning.
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livetoski, please PM me your email address.

Thanks everyone - none of the ideas are particularly appetising wink and was thinking more along the lines of something like child care, a chalet, transfers etc


If anyone has any sensible ideas along those lines please feel free to PM me and we can speak.
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Lizzard, Also, India was of course a British colony, so curry was imported here, whereas the French tend to go more for N African type food, where some of their colonies were.
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I've eaten curries in French restaurants and they've always lacked a little of the vitality of those from home.
From this limited random sampling I would tend to concur with Lizzard's assertion that that the Fronsay don't do spicy.
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Never seen a Poundland in the Alps, so how about a Euroland? Someone I know did take away curries in Le Praz this year - lovely!
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Peter Leuzzi, what's not sensible about a chalet business? You'd just need to stump up a huge wedge of capital, because I haven't got any. Which is one reason why I'm not running a chalet business, obviously.
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RUGBY PETER, there's a euro store in Zell am See
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I've eaten curries in French restaurants


That's like going to Rome and ordering cod, chips and mushy peas in a pizzeria wink
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stephen buck, "A place in France"!
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I do remember "A place in France". They were trying to open a curry house in the bum end of nowhere.. fat chance. Lizzard, the only spicy thing I've seen is chilli oil on pizzas.. or is that only for the tourists? The French are v conservative but not half as bad as their neighbours in Italy... where anything made outside of a 5 mile radius of home is foreign muck.
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Things in a Italy are changing...especially in the North. Milan has really embraced the Sushi bars.

I must admit they are not too keen on Chinese food, but when i have my Italian mates over to Blighty, they really do like a good Curry and English Ale. Cool

As long as it's freshly cooked and from good ingrediants, more local the better, then they'll go for it. We could learn a lot tbh.
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When in Val D'Isere a couple of years ago I noticed a picnic delivery service being offered. You phoned in your order, decided where and when you wanted it and someone would deliver it, on skis, anywhere on the mountain.

I thought at the time it was flawed as they only delivered cold food. Not good in Dec/Jan/Feb when it's -10C and you're sitting on a rock.

Is this still going?
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jzBun, Picnics On The Piste. Went spectacularly bust a couple of seasons ago.
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Lizzard, How spectacularly?
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jzBun, leaving Mini Coopers and unpaid staff strewn across the Tarentaise, as I heard it. Laughing
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Althought to be fair, I think that the going bust had more to do with paying huge salaries and purchasing brand new company mini coopers than it did with the original picnicing idea . . . .
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Picnics on the piste doesn't sound like a great business to me, though from this article they did start quite well.

http://www.valdinet.com/whats_new_article.php?id_whats_new=2037 until the local major had other ideas but then that he got over turned in court.

How about inventing a machine that fluffs up the snow, maybe drive a piste basher in reverse?
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waynos, hmmm a snow "fluffer".. i do suggest you never do a search for the word fluffer on ths internet, you may be Shocked!

On a slightly more serious note.. most grand plans seem to fail around the ski business... it's very niche and insular, normal business rules are hard to apply. A well run chalet with experienced staff seems your least risk bet... kinda low risk and low return vs high risk and low return, those are your choices.
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spyder_pig, WURST not wurtz Toofy Grin

just make sure they're the best, not the... (I'll get me coat!)
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don't to chalet or apartment rentals as there is a new 20% tax on non-resident property owners

http://pistehors.com/news/forums/viewthread/909/
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a new 20% tax on non-resident property owners

Hmm. That's not good news. We don't rent ours but obviously it has a "rentable value". For those who DO rent out their property, does that mean a new 20% tax on top of whatever tax they pay on the income already? And presumably, for everybody, on top of the other taxes already paid - tax fonciere etc
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It is based on a notional rental value and should be about the same as the taxe foncière.
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Looks like renters escape:

http://www.lesechos.fr/economie-politique/france/actu/0201346265182-residences-secondaires-des-etrangers-la-taxe-fixee-a-20-de-la-valeur-locative.htm
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pam w, looking at the article, it would appear that it will apply only to those who don't rent out their property, those renting have income and so already pay taxes. I only pay a very small amount, but it is tax nevertheless. Perhaps it will stop the tax avoidance apparently going on amongst non-resident property owners.
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pam w, looking at the article, it would appear that it will apply only to those who don't rent out their property, those renting have income and so already pay taxes. I only pay a very small amount, but it is tax nevertheless. Perhaps it will stop the tax avoidance apparently going on amongst non-resident property owners.


Yes in that case should be ok for people who bought apartments on a leaseback scheme but I wonder about holiday rentals, will it be pro rata? Could you could rent your property 1 week of the year and claim an exception.
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