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After renting a pair for a couple of days, i decided to buy a pair of Rossy S5's, found them for a pretty reasonable £269 delivered from http://www.chainreactioncycles.com
Just got to decide what bindings to go for. Ive had a look around and there are quite a few options,
Salomon sth 12's for £110,
Rossy Axial 120 xl's for £112,
Marker Griffons 12's for £112,
Salomon sth 14's for £135,
Marker Jester 16's for £165
Has anyone got any preferences? My current bindings are set to 8 or 9 i think which people have suggested is a bit low but it seems to be the consistent setting the shops set any rental skis i hire to?
Sole length is 338 off the top of my head (size 11uk), 6ft 3, 20 odd stone?
Any thoughts, suggestions would be appreciated
Many Thanks
Mat
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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dump the rossi, any of the Sallys will allow for height adjustment of boot lugs if using vibram sole, the Markers are all good strong and lightweight.
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| .. any of the Sallys will allow for height adjustment of boot lugs if using vibram sole..... |
I never knew that, good info. Do they still work as normal?
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ski, Sorry as you said, bit confusing, STH would normally be the same thing with various din options, the STH 12 is the Ztrack thingummywhatsitballix, so dump that off the options too.
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| Mosha Marc wrote: |
| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| .. any of the Sallys will allow for height adjustment of boot lugs if using vibram sole..... |
I never knew that, good info. Do they still work as normal? |
The toe adjustment in the Sallie bindings mentioned is designed to give a fine height adjustment for alpine boots only - you use them with Vibram soles at your own risk.
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Have you checked Freeze Pro shop, they have a really good sale on at the moment and had S5s cheaper than that the last time I looked. I have Jester Schizos and they are not a light binding, don't know if they are heavier than the non Schizo version but they feel a lot heavier than the Griffons on my other skis.
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| spyderjon wrote: |
| Mosha Marc wrote: |
| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| .. any of the Sallys will allow for height adjustment of boot lugs if using vibram sole..... |
I never knew that, good info. Do they still work as normal? |
The toe adjustment in the Sallie bindings mentioned is designed to give a fine height adjustment for alpine boots only - you use them with Vibram soles at your own risk. |
Not quite sure why SZK has chopped Rossis off the list, given the choice (and I just did) they would be the ones I'd go for. Just had mounted one set of Marker Dukes, one set of (old) Rossi Axial2s, and one set of Look Pivots (same as Rossi FKS). In robustness I'd probably put them in reverse order, since though I've not heard bad things about the Dukes robustness they don't look as tough as the Rossis.
Salomon bindings I had (well still have, just don't really use much) were okay as long as I remembered to get the toe height re-adjusted every now and then - suspect they might have fixed that by now though?
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spyderjon, Given this is the only binding offered with toe height adjustment, it's the only one capable of being used with vibram rando height specs without entering into pre release. Further problems with AFD are subjective as using a worn PU sole, if you hurt you knee afterwards, well skiing ain't great on knees, the Manufacturers instructions are still the same as tha from 8 years ago, alot has changed, so, check, if really worried with a tech as to the match between vibram unit and AFD.
stuarth, The current Rossi/ Look binding (PX-BALLIX) sucks, it's drive unit is too narrow for ski above 70mm in the waist and thus comes loose with use. One can argue, better that than the additional torque forces on the knees, but for my money this binding sucks ass. 
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, Surely not (from my sample of 1, well 1 plus a few mates who also have them on bigger skis)?
I've had Axial2s on my Mantras for a good long time and given them quite a beating with no detrimental effect.
Had problems with Tyrolia pre-releasing. Atomic ones being generally scary due to fear of them just falling clean off (pre-release not the binding-ski!) in a rutted course (which they did!), and Salomon with self-toe height adjusting, but never an issue with the Rossis, hence my recent purchase of new Looks.
I spent a bit of time looking at the width thing since my Pivots got mounted on 128s and really there doesn't seem that much difference. The Marker Dukes are a bit wider mounting and marginally wider toe-piece (Salomon the only noticibly wider toe piece), but much more plasticy especially compared to the 18 Rossi/Looks.
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midget biker has Tyrolia Peak18s for £100. Def worth putting on you list especially at that price. I know he has stock left.
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stuarth, Pivot no problems at all, ever or ever, PX is a waste of time and money, is that not the model being offered?
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stuarth, We have around 20 pairs of used PX bindings, all of the trains are loose, i'll, if I get a mo, make a little video of the problem, all mounted on <100 mm skis, Pro XXL, BC Navis/Corvus etc. The PX will soon be obsolete, Look acknowledging the uselessness of their binding on skis over 70mm.
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You know it makes sense.
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| ....if really worried check with a tech as to the match between vibram unit and AFD.... |
Yep, it's the AFD that's the problem with the Sallie's & vibram. On dual boot bindings (Duke/Baron/FT12/FT10/Fritcshi) the AFD moves rearward as well as down for vibram sole use thus moving the contact point to the correct place. I've torque tested a couple of Sallie/vibram combo's are couldn't get consistent release figures - about +/- 1 din at a setting of 10 IIRC.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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spyderjon, On a positive side, we've done loads(S9) for this reason, had no issues in many years. The most part of the Marker bindings all have the DUKE system for next near, it's lighter than the Sally albeit has no adjustable wings.
To return to the OP, pick any of the last three IMO.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
| .....To return to the OP, pick any of the last three IMO. |
Or all metal Vist 614's 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, OK I'm now utterly baffled by the Rossi/Look/Dynastar binding hierarchy. Can you clarify which models you consider to be fine (faux turntable heels ish generation?) and which are crap (Axial 2/PX?).
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fatbob, Anything Look Pivot, great, anything based around the Look PX, ballix (unless used with sub 70mm).
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So Axial 1 (turntable ish but not FKS) fine, Axial 2 (linear heel) bollux? What's the train - the heel piece that sits in the mounting track?
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fatbob, Exactly.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, have you seen any problems with the Jester/Griffon/Schizo's bendy plastic heel base plate? I've had a few in were the base plate has pulled over the screw heads.
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spyderjon, No, but doesn't surprise me, the plate needs taping or clamping down before screwing into place otherwise it sits proud too easy, depending on ski construction, so if that were not done, i would say one of the most likely outcomes would be your said issue.
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spyderjon, That said on visual inspection, it does look a bit pony, i'm surprised that has not been more issues than we have seen.
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Sideshow_Bob, They're feckin heavy though!
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Thanks for the replies guys, been an interesting read 
Think ill go for the griffons, Lockwoods (just down the road from me) want £160 for them but will fit them for free, £25 fitting otherwise and i quite like the look of them, although am tempted by those Tyrolia Peak18s, they sound quite a good deal
Cheers
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