Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Personal position on this. I still visit just as often, but I do eat out a bit less while I'm there. It was just as bad in the mid-nineties.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Same. In 2006 it was 2.30 or so to the pound. Now, about 1.43. 20 SFR for a meal was cheap at about £8.70. Now it seems a lot at more like £14. Four of us don't see much change out of £80 for pretty basic dinner (pizza and drinks etc). So we eat in a lot more.
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If I didn't have a friend in Montreux and free digs I wouldn't bother with CH.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It's a significant part of why there's no MSB there this year.
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My experience of Swiss resort was that it was expensive even when the pound was massively strong. Cheapest bars were about £5 a pint. With a worse exchange rate, perhaps they need to be a bit more realistic about their pricing?
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I'm not skiing in Switzerland this year although I have for a week in each of the last 3 (Zermatt twice and Laax). I disagree that it was expensive, even in Zermatt in 2008 I didn't pay more than 8SwFr (£4) for a beer but costs have steadily increased since. I did notice spending a day in Geneva in October how much everything was costing me. As I'm flying to Zurich en route to St Anton next month with an overnight on the way back I'm still going to be hit.
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Compared to Italy and Austria, Switz. seems to be more expensive for what you get. Although those countries are priced in Euros, for an American it is expenisve no matter where you go in Europe. Much better exchange rates in the late 90's and very early part of 2000. Still planning on spending time in Switzerland but the cost per nt for just hotel and breakfast is the same as we are paying in Austria, and that comes with half board and a 6 day lift pass.
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I've dropped going to Switzerland this year - just couldn't justify the difference in price between the Eurozone resorts and the Swiss ones... Sorry guys, loved it but...
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any places do happy hour in Wengen ??
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coach wrote: |
any places do happy hour in Wengen ?? |
Rocks and the Tanne both do happy hours.
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Maybe they should drop their prices..............simples
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We get a lot of bookings from Dutch and Belgian visitors. Enquiries are down this season (possibly also not helped by the snow, or lack of) Swiss visitors tend to be "drive-ups" so they don't eat in the evenings or stay in hotels. So eventually, prices will have to fall or businesses will fail.
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You know it makes sense.
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I'm paid in CHF but even so it is very expensive to ski in Switzerland, I don't think I've skied there for a decade. I did look at Zermatt but it is too damn expensive.
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Poster: A snowHead
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stay in Cervinia, ski into Zermatt with your packed lunch - Italian food is more reliably good... and good value too...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'm told lots of Hélvetiens in the Haute-Savoie at the moment snapping up bargains and skiing on the cheap but this means resorts are busier than normal.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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telford_mike wrote: |
coach wrote: |
any places do happy hour in Wengen ?? |
Rocks and the Tanne both do happy hours. |
And Siena's Bar. 9-10pm, IIRC.
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achilles wrote: |
And Siena's Bar. 9-10pm, IIRC. |
Pedantic spelling comment:
I think it's Sina's Bar (the same Sina Cova who runs the Falken Hotel?)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I saw a £600 package deal last week flights, transfers and single room in the Sunstar Wengen. Great value for such quality. Only need to buy lift pass, apple fritters & a few beers. If they struggling for punters there may be a few fire sale deals.
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Just returned from a week in Andermatt and Engelberg, Andermatt in particular was dead. Both our guide and the patron of our Hotel said that bookings were worse than they could remember. We had an excellent but painfully expensive trip. 45 chf for a Steak and 26 CHF for a demi of very average house red was ubiquitous in Andermatt.
You have to sympathise with the locals to a certain extent as their prices and those of their suppliers etc have not changed. All the same i wouldn't go back and until there is some kind of reversal the exchange rate...
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I had a great skiing week in Engelberg last week but certainly I cut back on the alcohol. Luckily the Yucatan still has a happy hour with 9 CHF for a pitcher of beer.
I avoided the wine at the hotel firstly because as Beakyshark, says the prices were too much and secondly after a few jars at the Yucky, one more beer at the hotel was enough to get me through dinner and leave me in better shape for the next day.
Lunch was not too bad on the mountain although I am often just a goulash soup man at lunch anyway.
Having made that economising during the week, along with about two thirds of the group I could not resist splashing out 350 CHF to go heliskiing on the last day.
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Beakyshark, booked an apartment in CH for summer hols, had it in my head that exchange rate was still 2CHF to pound like last time i went, then I saw this thread!! Fortunately i have not paid a deposit. GB owners want paying in CHF - but say i can choose to pay when exchange rate suits. Do I cancel or wait or ask to pay in GBP? I have noticed they have only one other booking for the year! hmmmmm
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remember too you've got so many huge corporations with "headquarters" and "manufacturing" there basically laundering money through pretty much single figure corp tax that CH will always tend to be pricier, some regions worse that others depending on the canton / where the tax regions are
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richjp wrote: |
I had a great skiing week in Engelberg last week but certainly I cut back on the alcohol. Luckily the Yucatan still has a happy hour with 9 CHF for a pitcher of beer.
I avoided the wine at the hotel firstly because as Beakyshark, says the prices were too much and secondly after a few jars at the Yucky, one more beer at the hotel was enough to get me through dinner and leave me in better shape for the next day.
Lunch was not too bad on the mountain although I am often just a goulash soup man at lunch anyway.
Having made that economising during the week, along with about two thirds of the group I could not resist splashing out 350 CHF to go heliskiing on the last day. |
Ha, that sounds familiar, having spent a few days whinging about the cost of everything my group were also more than happy to splash out the extra for a heli trip once they found out the cost...i love the way the prospect of powder immediately destroys any good financial intentions. Unfortunately everything was fully booked....how was it?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I'm off on a Swiss trip in a fortnight but there are a shed load of us going out and I'll be in a landrover with full roof rack stuffed with food and booze
Will still eat out a couple of times but making butties and sharing cooking makes a massive difference to a group.
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You know it makes sense.
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Toadman, I was on the same trip as Richard. Paid 75chf more and got 3 drops plus a lift off the hill. A total of about 4200m vertical I think. Proper skiing mix of snow. Not exactly champagne powder top to bottom. A brilliant day but not designed to flatter rich middle aged blokes who can only turn in perfect snow.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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WHat's the price of a beer in the grocery store in CH?
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Poster: A snowHead
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here in Champery you can get 12 bottles of Heineken for 11 chf. 5 chf for a pint and 3.50 for a half of local lager in the villages cheapest bar! More expensive bars charge 4.50 for a half and 7 for a pint. Glass of Gamay (red wine) or White about 3.50 chf up to 7 chf for better quality!
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