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What is the best value stuff?
Probably need something good down to -10C
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think the bog standard Halfords stuff is supposed to be good to -15c if you use it neat... so it says on the bottle anyway
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You Raang?,
I could only find stuff good to -7 or -8 in local Halfords, and it does freeze up below that. (experience last week)
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I find the stuff you get in austria that works to -50 or somethings works well. The basic UK stuff that says -4 is hopeless in my transporter even in a light frost. Get the stuff that claims the lowest and go neat when it's cold. Though the transporter T5 does bug me in that once the lines are frozen they don't clear for hours of driving, you'd think all the heat from the engine some could be diverted to the windscreen wash lines.
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Another way the UK just isn't built to handle the cold weather snaps!
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Dillute the screenwash with a cheap bottle of Vodka, that should do the trick !
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pam w, I saw two supermodels staring intently at a bottle on the shelf in Halfods. When I asked them what they were doing they replied, "It says to double concentrate."
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Lidls, they do stuff good to -60c ,,,so it says on the container.
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johnboy, I do not know whether you have one near you but Costco sell stuff that is supposed to be good down to -36. It certainly works to -10. About £4-50 fo 5lt as I remember.
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| Boredsurfing wrote: |
| Lidls, they do stuff good to -60c ,,,so it says on the container. |
Is that the screenwash or the vodka ?
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spyder_pig,  Screenwash, although the vodka maybe more realistic in its claims!
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You know it makes sense.
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glad to see that not finding true cold weather windshield washer fluid (err... screenwash) around here wasn't for lack of looking. In the US any old fluid you pick up at a gas station or supermarket is good to -30 or so Fahrenheit. I was intending to go grab a bottle of alcohol to put in with it, if it weren't a rental car I would be nervous about what it would do to the rubber washer fluid lines though.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I can state from experience that the Lidl one really does work in temperatures down to -9 - and that is at a dilution of about 4 or 5 to 1, even though on the bottle it says 2:1 should be used for temps down to -10
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Poster: A snowHead
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Asda's best froze solid last week
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Thanks Rick
I was going to get some from you last year, then everything thawed out.
Halfords only seem to sell double concentrate in 1 litre bottles. It was enough to thaw out the washer bottle on a Corsa last week.
A bottle of deicer in the bottle seemed to keep the Berlingo flowing.
Saw a chap doing the old bucket of water trick on his windscreen after a hard frost. I've never seen icicles from so fast on glass before.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'm not sure screenwash "feels" windchill in the way that warm blooded animals do. I think it just cools down to the ambient temperature faster.
@thirty06: lol at the icicles. Should make him a good ice rink too 
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There are two Halfords fluids. The pink one is the double concentrate, the blue one being standard.
£11.99 for 15 litres.
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bar shaker, thats a good offer. Think we sell the -36c one for £6 and thats in a 5 litre bottle.
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It was 2 for 1 last week (probably still is). I can use more than 5 litres on each leg of an Alpine trip.
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bar shaker,
The pink one is only good down to -7
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johnboy, Oh, its worked to -9 so far so I am hoping it will cope.
I have some Porsche stuff that I'll add, then. It came free (in a manner of speaking!) with a service and you are only meant to add the tiniest amount.
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I'm not sure screenwash "feels" windchill in the way that warm blooded animals do
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you're right. The screenwash you need depends on what the actual temperature is - windchill makes no difference. Minus 15 is minus 15, no matter how many gales are blowing.
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| pam w wrote: |
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I'm not sure screenwash "feels" windchill in the way that warm blooded animals do
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you're right. The screenwash you need depends on what the actual temperature is - windchill makes no difference. Minus 15 is minus 15, no matter how many gales are blowing. |
Although I agreed with the above here last season, I do actually now think that Latent heat of evaporation does play a part. Certainly at -20 last year the Halfords neat double concentrate was freezing on the windscreen until it got very warm.
Trying Comma XStream this year.
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allanm, The atomisation will reduce the temperature of the fluid as it leaves the jet. This may put the fluid below its freezing temp, depending on ambient temp and, in your case, windscreen temp.
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Urm it is pretty irrelevant at what temprature it freezes at unless you have heated washer jet nozzles.
Basically all screen washes contain an antifreeze substance, which is normally an ether alcohol based substance, If you have a double concentrate screen wash, then the chances are that it has twice as much ether alcohol content in it, this will stop the solution freezing in the washer bottle reservoir in your car.
But as it goes through the screen washer pump and through the pipes to the nozzle on you bonnet a certain percentage evaporates, thus weakening the concentration.
After you have sprayed your windscreen and parked up, the solution around the nozzles freezes as the ether alcohol evaporates, so when you next come to drive the nozzles are frozen.
So the answer is to have a high concentration solution but have a car with a heated screen wash system, I know my Mondeo has and so far in the 12 months and two winters i have never suffered a problem, yet my wifes Fiesta without a heated system has frozen up numerous times with the same screen wash.
I will now get my anoraK AND STAND IN THE CORNER OF A KITCHEN AT A PARTY 
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| Timbobaggins wrote: |
| Urm it is pretty irrelevant at what temprature it freezes at unless you have heated washer jet nozzles. |
No...... The problem was the wash freezing slightly AFTER it had hit the windscreen. This only happened at speed, temps -20ish and with Halfords double concentrate absolutely neat. After a while when the interior of the car warmed up it was OK.
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You know it makes sense.
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I think you all need to out a bit more!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Another reason mid/rear engine cars are really pants in cold weather. I can drive for an hour, and still have frost on my "bonnet". None at the back though... I tend to need "stronger" screenwash in my car than my OH does in his as the MR2's washer nozzles freeze quicker than the Octavia's - and are quite capable of freezing mid journey if you go through a cold patch.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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lidl is basically alcohol and glycol. Since the alcohol is listed first, it must be 50% 
It is called antifreeze but is actually screenwash about £5/5litre
cheers
bob
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americanskier, I was in Dearborn, Michigan, for a year and despite driving in freezing conditions, on snow, for three months this stuff is new to me. Must be that that the good stuff is all they supply - you dont need to seek it, its the norm.
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Shimmy, What are you on about???
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Shimmy, Because well sub-zero temperatures are the norm, then the local screenwash there will be able to cope with it. In the UK, most drivers can't even get there head around the need to have appropriate tyres in winter, let alone appropriate screenwash - so they stick with the same summer stuff at the same concentration, and then wonder why it freezes! 
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Timbobaggins, Some of them contain glycol, and they don't necessarily freeze up around the nozzles.
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