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It's my 1st time skiing in over 15 years and although I can't wait it's filling me with dread that I won't get a boot to fit! I'm thinking about buying boots but the thought if humiliation when trying them on & not fitting is the overriding factor. HELP can you get a boot to fit a 20 inch calf at it's widest point?
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camilleri, welcome to snowheads, it is possible but probably not in most rental shops, clips may have to be moved .heel lifts installed and liners possibly changed, but definitely possible
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camilleri, To clarify for those like CEM, who can help you, do you mean the boot needs to be 20" or your calf is 20" at its widest point? I have wide calves (17" at the widest point), and have a good idea of the problems you have, but where my ski boots fit is not at the widest part of my calf. I needed a ski boot that could accommodate a wider calf, but my boots didn't need to be 17" at the widest point as that was higher than where the boot finished on my leg.
If its any help when I hired I always managed to get a boot without ordering specially that would more or less fit me.
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My calf is 20 at the widest point
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camilleri, That's what I wondered - a ski boot won't need to be that wide will it? as it won't go that high on your leg - I guess it might help if you ran a tape measure around where the boot will sit as that knowledge might help when you are looking.
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Thanks guys
What would you say is the average boot height? I've putting off sorting anything out as if the problem would go away!
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top of the boot would be about an hand-span from the ankle bone...
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Right, that means we're looking at a mortifying 19. Would you assume from that that it's unlikley to be able to buy an off the peg so to speak pair of boots? Or could anyone recommend any I could look that?
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well that depends on where the shell finishes and the top of the liner is. There are alsorts of 'lasts' out there, some suit slimmer loegs and others larger. You can also remove some shims and many 4 clip boots have a simple hex-head nut which allows the buckles to be moved significantly to allow for lower leg variances so its not all lost.
Personally, i'd call a decent ski shop, make an appointment at a quiet time and get someone to do a fitting for you. At the very least if you don't buy you'll know whats possible off the peg, probably know which makes are more suitable and then take it from there. however if you try something and it fits like a glove..buy it.
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camilleri, I was put into a Head Edge 8.8 (it might be a different number now). The bootfitters here seem to agree that it is a high volume boot, but it is large in the foot as well as in the calf. If you were to buy your own boots a trip to a bootfitter like CEM is going to be worth while for you. When I had mine done intially they were initially tight in the calf, but the fitter added a slight extra lift under my heels and that made the calf fit much better for me.
I don't think a proper fitter would allow you to become embarassed by your size. You are probably not the only person that they will have seen with similar problems. I know from posts I see on SH's that I am not alone in having had an issue with larger calves. You are not either. If you have half an idea that your own boots might be worth while, then post your rough location on the thread and I am sure someone will recommend a sympathetic fitter who would be able to offer you a personal and discrete service.
B.t.w. if you also suffer from not being able to buy fashion boots to fit try Vivaladiva online, and Evan's (the womens outfitter) do a wonderful range of fashion shoes and boots made on lasts that suit the larger women that might buy their clothes.
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I've putting off sorting anything out as if the problem would go away!
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Doesn't sound as if it will, camilleri, and you risk ruining your holiday. Happened to my sister in law. Tiny feet, but very large legs. After a very helpful Austrian lad had tried all the boots in his hire shop, including big men's ones for people with massive feet, none of them would do up, and she had to give up the whole idea of skiing (which probably would have been a disaster anyway, actually, so I was secretly a little relieved).
You need to see a specialist bootfitter asap. And then have a really great holiday. 
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I have some fairly chunky calves, as a result largely of a lot of rugby and then a lot of hockey. There are boots that fit, largely because the bottom of your calf is where the boot fits, not around the widest point.
You need to go and try on some boots - it may not be an issue. It will also tell you very quickly if you are going to have problems in resort with hiring - if one on the shelf in Snow & Rock fits, they will have something similar in resort.
Other option is to pay to get some specialist advice from a bootfitter, though with no idea of how much skiing you've done or plan to do it is difficult to tell you whether this is a good idea, worth it, or not. If it's your first trip and you don't know if you like it, it could well be overkill.
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17" calf is easy needing little or no adjustement 19" is a little trickier but still not a massive problem, most important thing is that the boot is as close as you can get for the foot shape and size then deal with the calf, there is a temptation for people to up size the boot for comfort, all this does is put you in a boot with a taller cuff which then has to go round a larger calf measurement
most brands make a boot which will go round the calf, it is a case of finding one which will match the foot shape as best as possible and go round the calf
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You know it makes sense.
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Thanks guys, so I need to get down to the local shop &try some on! I'm in Cardiff so have 2 shops locally though i''m not sure about boot fitters .
Cem- just out of interest can you let me know what I'd be looking to pay approx for custom fitting, adjusting, etc,etc. thanks
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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camilleri, roughly...boot £220-£250 footbed £38 upwards and £30 fitting/adjustments
but all speculation without seeing the feet
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camilleri, if you can, I'd try and nip to CEM who can't be that far from you. You say you've skiied before so presumably you like it and a pair of good fitting boots may well re-new your love of the sport. If you try and rent in the resort it's not going to work tbh, you'll be uncomfortable and will give up after a day or two. Trying to fit a wide calf off-the-shelf means you're likely to be in a boot which is just way way too big for your foot, CEM will know all the tricks to make it fit you.
I've got wide calves, not excessively wide - but wide enough that it takes a little time to fit a boot - best thing I've ever done is get fitted properly, I only kept skiing (in spite of my) rentals through sheer bloody-mindedness! 
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I've got almost the same sized calf muscle 19.5 inch (solid muscle by the way unlike the rest of me  ) I'd just echo what CEM said, most ranges will have a boot that fits the calf (even if it may require extending the clips) far more important is the fit arround the foot itself, people of our size really do need a good footbed to support the foot and you may well find heel lifts have a dramatic effect on your stance giving you the ever so important foward lean
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Think I'll be getting in touch with CEM!
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Sorry, where is CEM? Is it a shop
thanks 
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Sorry, where is CEM? Is it a shop
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CEM is in Biscester, But this thread was 7 years ago
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Yes, its ok, i was googling, fat legs and ski boots!!!!!
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