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I used a pair of saloman xscream9s (silver) in 2001 happliy for a week before trashing my knee, and after avoiding offpiste since, i'll be spending 2 weeks offpiste skiing this season, and am wondering how the 10 yr old, mint, skiis will perform off piste against new technology skiis - bearing in mind the cost of holidays, guides etc, would new skiis be worthwhile? I am not an advanced skiier - decades on black runs, but only 5-10 turn stage off piste.
Same question also for the bindings - saloman 850s.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Someone more knowledgeable will be along I'm sure but I expect modern far wider skis would make it far easier for you than with your old Xscreams. Don't know about bindings though.
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Buzzfan, your bindings are probably fine but worth checking by a technician. There's little that can go wrong with them and binding tech hasn't changed appreciably in at least 20 years.
Skis are a different matter. The X-creams were probably the last revolutionary ski that Salomon made, for their time a stupendous hangover ski.
These days, you'll find skis that are way easier and better off piste. Closest analogue possibly whatever Rossi Bandit 3s have morphed into. Or similar.
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I've still got an old pair of xscreams, a great ski in their day. I don't use them anymore off-piste having got sucked into the "fatter is better" mantra. But it occurred to me the snow hasn't changed, the mountains haven't changed, the technique hasn't changed much in the last 10 years so why wouldn't your old xscreams still be a very competent ski?
You might get a few of the flash Harrys looking down their nose at you in the lift queue but unless you are doing some hardcore routes I'd say go for it. You could always hire some fat skis for a day or 2 to see if you want to upgrade.
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Wow, seem to remember those silvery things! they're in mint condition so should ski fine, how have they been stored, ie have they been stored flat together and taped? Just that they're foam cored so will loose their camber very easily. As the guys say, definately get your bindings tested at a shop but if they check out then they'll be good to go! Guess the xscreams will measure up around the 69mm under foot so if you went for a more modern pair they'll be wider and more supportive....balancing out cost to the advantage you'll get out of this is up to you...
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The X-creams were probably the last revolutionary ski that Salomon made, for their time a stupendous hangover ski.
These days, you'll find skis that are way easier and better off piste. Closest analogue possibly whatever Rossi Bandit 3s have morphed into. Or similar. |
Pocket Rockets maybe?
I'd suggest something like a Rossi S3 for latest tech in skis without going too fat.
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thansk for the prompt advice - they were stored flat, but not taped - when stood vertically against a straight edge, the camber is 15mm. Ski is 105mm at widest front tip, 95mm at widest rear tip, and 67mm at narrowest ie under heel. At the time, they seemed enormously wide 
I plan to try them out, if I like then easy! But I'd also love to learn telemark......!!!
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Buzzfan, They'll be fine, you do still see a lot of people with them on the Piste and they seem to be ok.
True it's mainly "Johnny Foreigners" using them because unlike the Brits they don't believe they simply must use the latest gear.
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| marcellus wrote: |
True it's mainly "Johnny Foreigners" using them because unlike the Brits they don't believe they simply must use the latest gear. |
& they might get more time on snow than the average Brit. Any ski at 90mm+ from the last 7 years or so would be my preference over a skinny foam cored 10 year old ski for off piste.
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| Buzzfan wrote: |
thansk for the prompt advice - they were stored flat, but not taped - when stood vertically against a straight edge, the camber is 15mm. Ski is 105mm at widest front tip, 95mm at widest rear tip, and 67mm at narrowest ie under heel. At the time, they seemed enormously wide
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A mid-fat carving ski then, should be fine off piste. I think my 11 year old Dynastar 4x4s are a bit skinnier. My only concern would be if the bases have dried out in storage. They may need a full service (fartage, remise à plat etc) which would cost you around 30 euros in France at any rate.
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...make your choice, personally there's too many good bargains going on ebay and the bargain sections of various websites to actually ride these off piste, get a budget of £150 and you'll enjoy your off-piste weeks WAY more!
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Where are all these bargains you speak of Doc, I never seem to find any!
All I'm after is a pair of 85mm-95mm waisted skis to mount some Dynafits on but can't find anything cheap!
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galpinos, what is your budget?
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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A paltry £200 for skis and skins!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Shoogly, thanks, I need to improve my googling/ebay.de searching skills!
Swwet.
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